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Wake up, Freepers, this is war.

Posted on 10/20/2005 1:15:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

“The army is not properly equipped for an invasion of an enemy's territory. It lacks much of the material of war, is feeble in transportation, the animals being much reduced, and the men are poorly provided with clothes, and in thousands of instances are destitute of shoes. Still we cannot afford to be idle, and though weaker than our opponents in men and military equipments, must endeavor to harass, if we cannot destroy them. I am aware that the movement is attended with much risk, yet I do not consider success impossible, and shall endeavor to guard it from loss.” – Robert E. Lee (September 3, 1862 – Letter to Jefferson Davis)

Last week, with considerable difficulty, I posted that I had changed my mind and decided to support the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. I hope that this post will help some of you understand why this nomination must be supported until it is either withdrawn or it succeeds in gaining Senate confirmation.
I make no bones about the fact that I believe that the nomination of Harriet Miers is a very, very large mistake by the Bush administration, probably the biggest mistake that they have made in office. I believe the choice to have been one made in the heat of battle, under duress and strain over the surprise decline of prior selections, against the goal of completing Senate confirmation before the end of November. A selection of a willing candidate had to be made, and the President mis-stepped in rushing to select Harriet Miers without proper vetting.

So, in light of that, (which is all true) why am I now suggesting that Harriet Miers should be supported?

Because this is war.

We Conservatives are at the brink of victory, where the enemy is most dangerous. Just as you have seen in Iraq, at the time of nearing victory is exactly the time when the enemy becomes more violent and deadly in their attacks. It is not because we are losing the war, that we find our leaders either attacked in the media, or worse; the continued attempts to criminalize Conservatives through the legal system. It is happening because we are winning.

We are winning in spite of the fact that our Conservative Army is in very, very bad condition after years of battle against our Liberal opponent. Our leadership in the Senate consists mostly of tired, beaten, scared members, most of them unwilling to take the fight to the enemy for fear of losing the ground they have gained.

In any war, it is always a goal to destroy leadership first. You target and attack the enemies Generals as a common early tactic. Our enemies have never been able to defeat the likes of Tom Delay or Karl Rove on the battlefield of ideas, so they now seek to remove them from the war altogether through continued attempts to remove them from their winning positions. The enemy if successful can weaken our leader by removing his warriors from the fight. Our enemies understand the unfortunate truth that there are only a few true warriors left in our political army, and if they can get to them (through our failure to protect their flank) they can then gain ground simply by limiting our ability to attack them. No war is won on the defense, and on the defense is where we are. We are not on the defense because of the decisions of one George W. Bush; we are on the defense because his Army is tired and weak, and also there are phony among them.

Anyone who believes that an Arlen Specter or a John McCain is going to fight to the death for Conservative principles is an absolute fool. If you think that Trent Lott or Orrin Hatch won’t sell your Conservatism down the river for another 6 years feeding at the public troth then respectfully, you are dumber than dirt.

In war, you must have no weak areas for the enemy to attack, and we have a lot of them. We attack Bush for signing Campaign Finance reform much more than we attack John McCain for creating it. We attack Bill Frist for not going Nuclear; instead of attacking the RINOs who would have obviously defeated the measure had Frist tried it.

In the Miers nomination, I believe the President looked at his situation, and the conditions of his troops, and took the path of Robert E. Lee; choosing not to lose, when faced with a situation where the condition of his troops made it impossible for him to win. In doing so, he repeated a mistake that many, many leaders have made before him. He made a decision from weakness, and that cannot be denied.

We can (and should) attack George Bush when he makes poor decisions from a weak position, but now is the time to attack those who put him in the weak position to begin with. You can’t really blame the Democrats, because they are who they are. We know their tactics and should be better prepared for them. You can’t blame the RINOs for the same reason. If you know your enemy, then there is no excuse for allowing him victories against you.

So where does that leave us?

As has been made clear before; “You go to war with the Army you’ve got, not the one you want”. That is where we are. Right now, we may not feel so great about our Army, but are we going to let them be defeated because we don’t agree with their tactics and methods? Sure, we can stand back and wait, or leap from the train because we are mad at the conductor, or we can dance with the one who brought us, people.

Now, forgive my over-use of clichés, but that’s the best I can do at the moment.

We voted for the man, we stood with him and defeated our enemies at every turn. Victory is near, and our enemy has ramped up their attacks, hoping we will shrink from the fight.

Let us stay the course, and stay on the side of President Bush. He is not a perfect man, but he is our man. In war, sometimes that just has to be enough. Now can we lower our voices enough to remember what side we are on in this fight? Every one of us has the right to criticize the general direction our leadership is taking at the moment. Whether it is spending, the borders, Miers, Iraq, whatever. We should never forget that those in Washington work for us, and are subject to our approval. That does not mean however, that we should help our enemies defeat us by handing over our leaders at gunpoint.

I believe the debate can only strengthen us, but we should keep it as debate and not open warfare against our side. The war for Conservative ideas will not be won during the term of our current President, but I think if we want more and better Generals down the road, we need to stand with this one.

Win or lose, I’m standing with President Bush.


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1 posted on 10/20/2005 1:15:39 PM PDT by Pukin Dog
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To: All

This is Pukin Dog's last vanity post.


2 posted on 10/20/2005 1:16:58 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

Thanks Puke I feel the same way


3 posted on 10/20/2005 1:18:03 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: Pukin Dog

Your last vanities are begining to sound like the day when everything changed.


4 posted on 10/20/2005 1:18:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Pukin Dog

As far as I can tell, she is every bit as conservative as George Bush.--FReeper NCSteve.


5 posted on 10/20/2005 1:18:38 PM PDT by Rebelbase (""As far as I can tell, she (Miers) is every bit as conservative as George Bush." --NCsteve (FR))
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To: Pukin Dog
This is Pukin Dog's last vanity post.

You said that last time too. ;-)

6 posted on 10/20/2005 1:19:28 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Line the border with trebuchets.)
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To: Pukin Dog
Win or lose, I’m standing with President Bush.

I am here, too.

7 posted on 10/20/2005 1:19:37 PM PDT by Pusterfuss (You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right. LBJ)
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To: Pukin Dog
This is war, and we're going into battle with McClellan instead of Sherman or Grant.
8 posted on 10/20/2005 1:19:51 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now)
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To: Pukin Dog

I bet a dollar it ain't.


9 posted on 10/20/2005 1:20:04 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: Sam's Army
Give the dollar to Jim Robinson, because it is.
10 posted on 10/20/2005 1:20:57 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Sam's Army

I wouldn't want to take that bet, either.


11 posted on 10/20/2005 1:21:06 PM PDT by flashbunny (What is more important: Loyalty to principles, or loyalty to personalities?)
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To: Pukin Dog

After Roberts, I am willing to give President Bush a pass on this one. Not the next one.(assuming at least one more nomination) I do reserve the right to continue p*ssing and moaning about lack of leadership on border issues and other stuff. :)


12 posted on 10/20/2005 1:21:19 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: Pukin Dog

I've got a quarter that says you won't be able to keep that promise.


13 posted on 10/20/2005 1:22:25 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Pukin Dog

I'm standing by Bush, too. I just wish the girlie men at NRO spent as much time attcking Democrats and the RINOs in Congress as do our president.


14 posted on 10/20/2005 1:22:26 PM PDT by Capt. Jake (Tar Heels against Edwards)
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To: Pukin Dog

I haven't liked everything GWB has done either, but every time I think of the alternative (J F'n K) I just shudder. We do have to stand and fight.


15 posted on 10/20/2005 1:22:29 PM PDT by Aeronaut (2 Chronicles 7:14.)
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To: Pukin Dog
This is Pukin Dog's last vanity post.

Yeah yeah. Sure sure.


16 posted on 10/20/2005 1:22:32 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Hypocrite opportunist. Don't infect me with your poison.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Worked out real well for R.E. Lee and the cause for which he fought.


17 posted on 10/20/2005 1:23:04 PM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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To: Poser

What is this, a reverse auction?


18 posted on 10/20/2005 1:23:05 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: counterpunch
...we're going into battle with McClellan instead of Sherman or Grant.

We are going into battle with King Pyrrhus...

19 posted on 10/20/2005 1:23:06 PM PDT by shempy (EABOF)
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To: Pukin Dog

Great post, P Dog! I agree with you. Pragmatism and victory come first.

Don't let this be your last vanity, though. You have written some fine ones, lately.


20 posted on 10/20/2005 1:23:11 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation.)
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To: Pukin Dog
This is Pukin Dog's last vanity post.

Wooof!

Excellent Post! Have a doggie biscuit!

21 posted on 10/20/2005 1:24:31 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: Pukin Dog

The very day of the nomination I was unable to read any posts until that evening. When I saw the completely over-the-top attacks, I decided then-and-there that there was no alternative to standing by the President for many of the same reasons you mentioned above -- with one addition: I believe anyone who thinks defeating the President on this nomination will lead to the nomination and confirmation of a known opponent of R v W like Edith Jones or Janice Rogers Brown is delusional beyond belief. Defeat will weaken the President at the gain of the 'Rats, not Conservatives.


22 posted on 10/20/2005 1:24:49 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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To: Pukin Dog

It is a war. It's a war between small government conservatives and big government statists. And Bush is not on the small government side. Neither, apparently, is the Republican party.


23 posted on 10/20/2005 1:24:55 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: Pukin Dog

Very well stated, Pukin Dog.


24 posted on 10/20/2005 1:25:02 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abortion or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Let us stay the course, and stay on the side of President Bush. He is not a perfect man, but he is our man. In war, sometimes that just has to be enough



I trust him


25 posted on 10/20/2005 1:26:15 PM PDT by paradoxical
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To: Pukin Dog

Yo, Dog

We (The Royal WE) don't mind your vanities.

A lot of thought and effort went into post. Whether I agree with all your points is for another time.

Thanks for putting it up just the same...


26 posted on 10/20/2005 1:26:31 PM PDT by CTOCS (This space left intentionally blank...)
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To: reformedliberal
Thank you, but the more I post, the more my posts seem to be about me, which is against the goal. Just as there are more responses wondering whether I will post again, opposed to responses to the post itself.

I have said my peace.
27 posted on 10/20/2005 1:26:35 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: shempy
We are going into battle with King Pyrrhus...

Ok, I'll accept that analogy.
For those who don't know, King Pyrrhus won the battle but lost half his men and eventually the war.
28 posted on 10/20/2005 1:27:15 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now)
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To: Pukin Dog

It is war… a war we must win. Able Danger. The Barrett Report. No time to cut and run.


29 posted on 10/20/2005 1:27:42 PM PDT by auboy ("Don't get stuck on whiny")
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To: Pukin Dog; fastattacksailor; swordfish71; broadsword; Nesher; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ...
Great piece of work, Puke...pretty much how I feel, too, thanks for putting it into words.

Good read PING!

30 posted on 10/20/2005 1:27:49 PM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Pusterfuss

The Britney Spears doctrine.


31 posted on 10/20/2005 1:28:35 PM PDT by lugsoul ("They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.")
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To: Pukin Dog
This is Pukin Dog's last vanity post.

Yeah, right. Good grief, your every fleeting whim is NOT news and is NOT deserving of its own thread.

32 posted on 10/20/2005 1:28:55 PM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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The fact that idiots like you would rather respond to my comment than the post, is exactly the reason I wont do this again.
33 posted on 10/20/2005 1:30:09 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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Who?


34 posted on 10/20/2005 1:30:10 PM PDT by Pusterfuss (You know, doing what is right is easy. The problem is knowing what is right. LBJ)
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To: Pukin Dog

Peace out........

I'm with you, man.


35 posted on 10/20/2005 1:30:34 PM PDT by colorcountry (Proud Parent of a Soldier)
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Because this is war. Well, someone truly understands that...

I don't agree with everything Bush does, and don't think he's perfect, BUT I SURE AS HELL AM NOT GOING TO JOIN IN THE ORGY OF TEARING HIM DOWN AND ATTACKING, WHEN ALL OF MY SWORN ENEMIES HAVE BEEN DOING SO 24/7, SINCE EVEN BEFORE HE WAS SWORN IN. To me, that's like telling your wife she's fat ("Hey, I noticed you're getting fat"), while some stranger is raping her again and again and again. Utterly despicable behavior.

36 posted on 10/20/2005 1:30:36 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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I wit'cha PD. I initially opposed Harriet. Now, I'm on board.

I reserve the right to jump off again if she turns into a Souter, however. If that happens, nothing will stop the bleeding for years and we can resign ourselves to whatever creature the Dems choose to foist on us in 2008.

If Miers = Souter 2, it will be a betrayal of epic proportions.
37 posted on 10/20/2005 1:31:07 PM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: Aeronaut

Rush turned me on to FR back in the summer of '04.
I was not going to vote for GWB again, new tone, tedkenney education bill, harkin energy bill, out of control spending, etc.
But with the WOT and tax cuts I knew we could not live with JFnK...

I reserve the right to complain if JRB is not nominated when one of the liberal fossils dies on the supreme court


38 posted on 10/20/2005 1:31:33 PM PDT by paradoxical
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To: Pukin Dog
I'll stand with President George W Bush til the end. Most of his critics aren't worth having in a fight anyway. Puchannan, Kristol, Frump, good riddence! BTW good posts are hard to come by, so don't let the critics bother you.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

39 posted on 10/20/2005 1:32:40 PM PDT by bray (Islam IS a terrorist organization)
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If Miers turns out to be another Souter, I will refuse to believe that Bush wanted it that way.
40 posted on 10/20/2005 1:32:53 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Pukin Dog

I basically agree with what you're saying... I just want to stress that our white house did have a part in determing this "army" that we have to work with. It's not like a 1st year college football coach that is playing with somebody elses recruits. Our white house backed a lot of these rinos.


41 posted on 10/20/2005 1:32:58 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: paradoxical
Let us stay the course, and stay on the side of President Bush. He is not a perfect man, but he is our man. In war, sometimes that just has to be enough.

I trust him

Worth repeating once again.

42 posted on 10/20/2005 1:33:17 PM PDT by CedarDave (Waiting for www.freerepublic.com... Waiting... Waiting...)
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To: Pukin Dog
Win or lose, I’m standing with President Bush.

Kool-Aid? No thanks.

Win or lose, I'm standing with conservative principles.

43 posted on 10/20/2005 1:33:42 PM PDT by Spiff (Robert Bork on the Miers Nomination: "I think it's a disaster on every level.")
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To: bray
The critics are entitled, up to the point where they encourage the enemy, and discourage us.
44 posted on 10/20/2005 1:33:59 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: mysterio
It is a war. It's a war between small government conservatives and big government statists. And Bush is not on the small government side. Neither, apparently, is the Republican party.

My feelings exactly. BUT I have decided not to moan anymore about Miers...what would be the point?

It is Bush's choice..let him have it..but on those things NOT his sole choice..such as merging USA with Canada and Mexico..I will fight down to my last drop of blood for the CONSTITUTION.

Miers better do the same.

45 posted on 10/20/2005 1:34:02 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Pukin Dog

bttt


46 posted on 10/20/2005 1:34:15 PM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Pusterfuss
A trashy, bubbleheaded little pop singer whose stated political views are, to sum up - "I trust the President so whatever he says I'm behind 100%."

Of course, this answer presumes you were serious about not knowing who she is.

47 posted on 10/20/2005 1:34:26 PM PDT by lugsoul ("They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors.")
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I cant argue with that. I think that Bush is too trusting at times. He aint perfect.
48 posted on 10/20/2005 1:34:50 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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No black helicopters. But I think there is a civil war raging between the CIA/Intel/State dept. communities vs Geo. Bush.

It is old line, liberal appointments vs the new regime.

And I'll throw 50 cents in the kitty on Pukin's last vanity post.

49 posted on 10/20/2005 1:35:10 PM PDT by llevrok (Drink your beer, damnit! There are people in Africa sober !)
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To: Pukin Dog
Thanks for the concise analysis, PK. I hope it's not your last vanity; I've enjoyed several.

I'm inclined to reach the same conclusion because I think the consequences of a withdrawal now would be even worse than the damage done by the nomination in the first place.

If she is withdrawn and, say, Luttig is nominated, the Dems and MSM will howl that Bush caved to his "extremists" and proposes to replace Justice O'Connor, Saint Moderation, with Attila the Hun himself. A filibuster would be assured and with the media winds at gale force winning enough of the Gang of 14 to break it would be questionable if not doubtful. A successful filibuster would probably embolden the Dems to to it again with a third pick, a pretty good possibility given the age and health of some Justices.

To borrow from your war analogy, the only guage of success in war is achievement of the objective, not fighting the good fight. We need to maintain a mission orientation.

50 posted on 10/20/2005 1:35:54 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I can't comment on things that might come before the Court, but I can tell you my Pinochle strategy)
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