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Tenth Planet Has a Moon!
Space and Earth science ^ | October 03, 2005 | E-Mail Newsletter

Posted on 10/22/2005 9:33:39 PM PDT by vannrox

Scientists are over the moon at the W.M. Keck Observatory and the California Institute of Technology over a new discovery of a satellite orbiting the Solar System's 10th planet (2003 UB313). The newly discovered moon orbits the farthest object ever seen in the Solar System.

The existence of the moon will help astronomers resolve the question of whether 2003 UB313, temporarily nicknamed "Xena," is more massive than Pluto and hence the 10th planet. A paper describing the discovery was submitted to the Astrophysical Journal Letters on October 3, 2005.

"We were surprised because this is a completely different type of satellite from anything we've seen before," said Dr. Mike Brown, professor of Planetary Sciences at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. "It is essentially a new class of satellites to large Kuiper Belt objects. It is tiny compared to the primary, and much fainter. We have never seen satellites like this before."

The newly discovered moon, which is 60 times fainter than its parent body, is affectionately called "Gabrielle" after the faithful traveling companion to Xena on the syndicated TV series. Future observations with the 10-meter Keck II telescope and the Hubble Space Telescope will determine the moon's orbital characteristics, which has an estimated period of about 14 days, and will therefore reveal the precise mass and density of Xena.

"What is interesting is that Xena, Pluto and Santa, three of the four largest objects in the Kuiper belt, all have moons," said Dr. Marcos van Dam, adaptive optics scientist at the W. M. Keck Observatory and co-author on the paper describing the discovery. "These moons suggest that these Kuiper belt objects may have formed differently than smaller objects in the same region."

The moon circling Xena was first discovered with the Keck II telescope on September 10, 2005 (UT) using the Laser Guide Star Adaptive Optics system (LGS AO). Since 2003, this system has been providing very high spatial resolution imaging in the infrared comparable to that of visible light images from Hubble Space Telescope.

With LGS AO, observers not only get higher resolution, but the light from distant objects is concentrated over a much smaller area on the instrument detector, making faint detections possible. The results are quickly advancing the understanding of binary Kuiper belt objects, a region in the Solar System beyond the orbit of Neptune.

The Keck LGS AO system has also been used to look at other recently discovered large bodies in the Kuiper belt. A small moon was found circling around 2003 EL61 (codenamed "Santa") but none was found orbiting 2005 FY9 ("Easterbunny"), the two largest known Kuiper belt objects after Xena and Pluto.

"When we test collision models to predict how Pluto and Charon formed, the models kept producing tiny satellites, much smaller than Charon," added Brown "But we had never seen satellites that small before in the Kuiper belt. But then we found a moon in the Santa system, and then we found another moon circling Xena, and they both look very similar to one another. This leads us to conclude that the largest objects in the Kuiper belt may have been subject to collisions."

Van Dam described the discovery: "At first we saw this little faint thing that kept cropping up in all the images, and we knew it was not a background star or galaxy because it moved across the sky with the primary. We could also tell that it was not an image artifact because it did not rotate with the sky and was consistent in each of the 24 images. By morning we knew that we had made a major discovery."

The discovery of the moon's primary, Xena, was announced July 29th by planetary astronomers Mike Brown of Caltech, Chad Trujillo of Gemini Observatory and David Rabinowitz of Yale University. It is currently about 97 astronomical units from the Sun (an astronomical unit is the 93-million-mile distance between the Sun and Earth), and is larger than the size of Pluto.

It takes 560 years to complete one trip around the Sun (versus 250 years for Pluto) and has a very steep angle in relation to the other planets, about 45 degrees off from the orbital plane of the other nine planets. Xena also has a very elliptical orbit, coming in as close as 3.5 billion miles (38 AU) and as far away as 9 billion miles.

The names "Xena," "Gabrielle," "Santa" and "Easterbunny" are temporary nicknames until the International Astronomical Union (IAU) rules on their official names. The proposed names have been submitted to the IAU and will follow the mythological and spiritual traditions of Kuiper belt objects.

Meanwhile, the IAU has stated it will not rule on a name until the IAU Working Group in charge of defining a planet determines a minimum size for a planet. Until then, the IAU considers all objects discovered in the outer solar system as "Trans-Neptunian" objects.

Adaptive Optics is a technique that corrects the effect of atmospheric blurring to produce images with a resolution comparable to what would be obtained from space. To measure atmospheric distortion, the adaptive optics system relies on a relatively bright guide star very close in the field of view to the scientific object of study.

Since there was no naturally-occurring guide star sufficiently bright enough with which to study Xena, astronomers used the Keck Laser Guide Star system to create an artificial star instead.

The team responsible for the discovery of Gabrielle, a moon orbiting 2003 UB313, are Michael E. Brown and Antonin H. Bouchez of California Institute of Technology in Pasadena; Marcos A. van Dam, David Le Mignant, Randall D. Campbell, Jason C. Y. Chin, Al Conrad, Scott K. Harman, Erik M. Johansson, Robert E. Lafon, Paul J. Stomski Jr., Douglas M. Summers and Peter L. Wizinowich of the W. M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii; Chadwick A. Trujillo of Gemini Observatory in Hawaii and David L. Rabinowitz of Yale University in Connecticut.


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1 posted on 10/22/2005 9:33:47 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: SunkenCiv; KevinDavis; RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; ...

Would you mind adding this to your Ping Lists. Thanks.


2 posted on 10/22/2005 9:37:17 PM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: vannrox

Nibiru - Planet X has been found! ;)


3 posted on 10/22/2005 9:38:44 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: vannrox

Thanks for the ping, VR. I like the topic, but it isn't really GGG. Also, I think this 'fo is in one of the "10th planet discovered" topics. :') Alas...

Astronomers Find a New Planet in Solar System (all such topics listed)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1453462/posts?page=61#61


4 posted on 10/22/2005 10:14:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: vannrox

I thought they were naming the 10th planet Qaoar, or something.

??


5 posted on 10/22/2005 10:16:38 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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2003 UB313, the 10th planet, has a moon!
"On September 10th 2005..."
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/moon/index.html

artists conception, credit NASA/CalTech:
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/planetlila/moon/PlanetXMoon.jpg


6 posted on 10/22/2005 10:17:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: martin_fierro

Quaoar (sp?) was the name assigned to one of the KBOs of a few years ago.

same team found Quaoar and "Xena" or "Persephone" or (my suggestion) "Brown's Planet".

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~chad/quaoar/


7 posted on 10/22/2005 10:19:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: vannrox

We're finding out so much new stuff so quickly, it seems this saying has become prophetic.

8 posted on 10/22/2005 10:22:32 PM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: vannrox; martin_fierro

Mike Brown's Caltech web pages, including one each regarding the four discoveries by the team:

http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/


9 posted on 10/22/2005 10:24:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: P.O.E.

That's an INCREDIBLY prophetic album -- one of their best.

They were doing Art Bell before there was Art Bell.


10 posted on 10/22/2005 10:41:24 PM PDT by JennysCool (Non-Y2K-Compliant)
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alas...

Scientists discover moon orbiting so-called 10th planet (nicknamed 'Xena')
ap on Monterey Herald | 10/1/05 | Alicia Chang - ap
Posted on 10/01/2005 5:10:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495009/posts

'Planet Xena' has a sidekick: Gabrielle
AP
Posted on 10/01/2005 6:35:34 PM PDT by jmc1969
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495045/posts


11 posted on 10/22/2005 11:14:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: P.O.E.
I loved Firesign Theater.

Haven't thought about them in years.

L

12 posted on 10/22/2005 11:17:46 PM PDT by Lurker (Leave the gun, but take the canolli.)
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To: martin_fierro
they were naming the 10th planet Qaoar,

That was several planets ago. 50,000 AU is a lot of space. There could be a planet out there bigger than Jupiter and we wouldn't know about it. There could even be a brown dwarf star and its own planetary system and we wouldn't know.

13 posted on 10/23/2005 9:19:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
That was several planets ago.

So that explains why I didn't get that Navigator gig on the Starship Enterprise.

14 posted on 10/23/2005 9:59:02 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

It's hard to know a new planet, or quasi-planetary object, or non-cometary comet-like object, or whatever they are called has been discovered just by reading threads since most all threads are carbon copies of all that went before. Same tired joke, same comments. There could be the other component of our binary star system out there, that's how little we know, and yet some are complaining that we spend too much money on the space program.


15 posted on 10/23/2005 10:13:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale

"50,000 AU is a lot of space. There could be a planet out there bigger than Jupiter and we wouldn't know about it. There could even be a brown dwarf star and its own planetary system and we wouldn't know... It's hard to know a new planet, or quasi-planetary object, or non-cometary comet-like object, or whatever they are called has been discovered just by reading threads since most all threads are carbon copies of all that went before. Same tired joke, same comments. There could be the other component of our binary star system out there, that's how little we know, and yet some are complaining that we spend too much money on the space program."

Far-out worlds, just waiting to be found
New Scientist | 23 July 2005 (issue date) | Stuart Clark
Posted on 07/20/2005 10:54:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1447339/posts

"'It's quite possible that there is a halo of planets surrounding our solar system, just waiting to be found,' says Eugene Chiang, an astronomer at the University of California, Berkeley."


16 posted on 10/23/2005 10:54:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated by FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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To: SunkenCiv
I am looking for more questioning of the mechanism of precession of the Equinox. Just as Copernicus came forth with a better explanation of the motion of the planets than old Ptolemy did, some have looked at precession and how it is far too complicated at present, besides not explaining everything we see in precession. If the sun were one component of a binary star, precession could be explained simply in the spirit of Copernicus. This is as exciting as learning that the Hubble volume is 10-18 of the volume of the universe by the Big Bang model.
17 posted on 10/23/2005 11:04:35 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: vannrox
Yuggoth's moon already has a name: Nithon.

I can't wait until they find Thog and Thok.

18 posted on 10/23/2005 11:07:24 AM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: vannrox
So we have found the home of the Lectroids, then?
(When? Real Soon!)
19 posted on 10/23/2005 1:21:52 PM PDT by PCBMan (The deuce you say!....BB)
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To: RightWhale

Brown's submitted paper:
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/%7Embrown/papers/ps/xena.pdf


20 posted on 10/26/2005 8:42:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Down with Dhimmicrats! I last updated my FR profile on Sunday, August 14, 2005.)
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