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Definition of "veteran"?

Posted on 10/28/2005 4:50:41 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares

I work with folks that have been in the Army and Navy. They refer to themselves as "veterans" though they have no combat experience. I have worked with many ex-military in the past and do not recall them referring to themselves as veterans. Isnt that term really reserved for those who served in war time and saw at least some form of combat? What is the normal conventions for this? Or is it just a grey area? Thanks in advance for any input!


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: military

1 posted on 10/28/2005 4:50:42 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares; Darksheare

I am pretty sure a veteran is any person who served within the military.

Generally though, the ones that saw combat don't really boast about it, but I will ping Darks just incase I am off my rocker :)


2 posted on 10/28/2005 4:52:00 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

A military veteran is anyone who has served in one of the armed services, regardless of time or conditions served.

A combat veteran is the distinctive phrase you're referring to.


3 posted on 10/28/2005 4:53:09 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I never saw actually combat experience but served under operation southern watch in the Gulf... the department of Veterans affairs considers anyone that has served in the arm service whether in peace or war as a veteran.

Dictionary.com

vet·er·an Audio pronunciation of "Veteran" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (vtr-n, vtrn)
n.

1. A person who is long experienced or practiced in an activity or capacity: a veteran of political campaigns.
2. A person who has served in the armed forces: “Privilege, a token income... were allowed for veterans of both world wars” (Mavis Gallant).
3. An old soldier who has seen long service.


adj.

1. Having had long experience or practice: a veteran actor.
2. Of or relating to former members of the armed forces: veteran benefits.
4 posted on 10/28/2005 4:54:03 PM PDT by Americanwolf (Support the Minutemen Civil Defense Corp...Doing the Job our government won't !)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

When you sign up, you don't know whether you're going into combat or not. If you have an Honorable Discharge, you're a veteran.


5 posted on 10/28/2005 4:55:55 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3rd Bn. Fifth Marines RVN 1969)
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To: MikeinIraq; Names Ash Housewares

Correct.

A veteran is anyone who has served in uniform.
Combat veterans have seen combat.
That seems to be the distinction.
So no, not off your rocker.


6 posted on 10/28/2005 4:58:07 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you shake a stick of garlic butter at a vampire, will it keep him away?)
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To: Darksheare

well I was kinda hoping LOL :)


7 posted on 10/28/2005 5:00:21 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
The definition of "veteran" is in Title 38, USC, 101. It says, in part:
The term “veteran” means a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service, and who was discharged or released therefrom under conditions other than dishonorable.

Later, it mentions the term “active duty” means— (A) full-time duty in the Armed Forces, other than active duty for training; (B) full-time duty (other than for training purposes) as a commissioned officer of the Regular or Reserve Corps of the Public Health Service (i) on or after July 29, 1945, or (ii) before that date under circumstances affording entitlement to “full military benefits” or (iii) at any time, for the purposes of chapter 13 of this title; (C) full-time duty as a commissioned officer of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration or its predecessor organization the Coast and Geodetic Survey (i) on or after July 29, 1945, or (ii) before that date (I) while on transfer to one of the Armed Forces, or (II) while, in time of war or national emergency declared by the President, assigned to duty on a project for one of the Armed Forces in an area determined by the Secretary of Defense to be of immediate military hazard, or (III) in the Philippine Islands on December 7, 1941, and continuously in such islands thereafter, or (iii) at any time, for the purposes of chapter 13 of this title; (D) service as a cadet at the United States Military, Air Force, or Coast Guard Academy, or as a midshipman at the United States Naval Academy; and (E) authorized travel to or from such duty or service.

Oh, read it yourself:
TITLE 38 > PART I > CHAPTER 1 > § 101
Good luck.

8 posted on 10/28/2005 5:01:35 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: MikeinIraq

Well, yes.
Still a ways away from that though.
Cracked and twisted maybe, but not off your rocker yet.


9 posted on 10/28/2005 5:02:49 PM PDT by Darksheare (If you shake a stick of garlic butter at a vampire, will it keep him away?)
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To: Darksheare

heh especially the twisted part.

We had a costume day at work today and I came in as Eric Cartman and I did the voice for about an hour until I lost it altogether. :)


Now my throat feels like sandpaper.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 5:03:51 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

A player at the end of his career, usually prefaced by:
Crusty Ol'


11 posted on 10/28/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by dakine
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To: Names Ash Housewares

While my understanding is that anyone who served in the military can call themselves a veteran, I feel funny calling myself one. I served 9 years in the army, almost all of it in inactive reserves. Still, it qualified me for membership in the American Legion.


12 posted on 10/28/2005 5:51:18 PM PDT by va4me ("Government isn't the solution to the problem, it is the problem" - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I recall that you had to serve more than 18 months to be considered a veteran. If you went to war, you would be called a "combat" veteran.


13 posted on 10/28/2005 6:18:31 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (The UN wants our guns so they can rape our children and steal our money)
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