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Escaped Pit Bulls Attack Six People, Terrorize Neighborhood; Child Critically Injured [IN]
AP via TBO ^ | Nov 6, 2005

Posted on 11/06/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by ncountylee

CARY, Ill. (AP) - A 10-year-old boy was in critical condition Sunday after three pit bulls escaped from a home and went on a rampage, attacking six people before police shot and killed dogs, authorities said.

No charges had been filed Sunday, but McHenry County Sheriff Keith Nygren said it was being investigated as a crime scene.

Neighbors said the attacks started late Saturday afternoon when children going door-to-door for a fund-raiser arrived at the home of Scott Sword, 41, who owned the dogs.

"We had music playing, and I heard this bizarre sound," said Debby Rivera, who lives three houses away. "I looked out the window, and I saw a young boy. The dogs were just jumping on him."

"The screams were horrible," she said. The dogs were "relentless, like they were possessed."

The pit bulls attacked the two children, and when the dogs' owner tried to stop them, the dogs turned on him and bit off his thumb, Nygren said. The boy's father also tried to protect his son and was attacked. The dogs went after another neighbor as well.

"The scene sprawled over a couple blocks, it was a very chaotic scene," said Lt. Michael Douglas of the Cary Fire Protection District.

Residents threw rocks at the dogs and honked car horns to try to distract them from attacking before police arrived and shot the animals.

Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats. "He'd hit them, they'd run, and they'd come back," Malone said. "This went on for 15 minutes."

The boy who was attacked, Nick Foley, was hospitalized in critical condition Sunday. His friend Jordan Lamarre, also 10, was in serious condition. Nick's father was listed in good condition. Sword and two others were treated for injuries and released.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: dogofpeace; pitbull

1 posted on 11/06/2005 2:37:29 PM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

nice puppies.


2 posted on 11/06/2005 2:43:16 PM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1800 replies and not a single post!)
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To: ncountylee
No one loves dogs more then I do but this is insane! Why is it always or almost always Pitt Bulls that do this? Can they actually be so inherently vicious or is it that the people who are attracted to these dogs are the kind that turn a dog vicious?
3 posted on 11/06/2005 2:45:17 PM PST by Eagles Talon IV (Still waiting for the)
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To: ncountylee
Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats. "He'd hit them, they'd run, and they'd come back," Malone said. "This went on for 15 minutes."

Someone had to finish their donuts...

4 posted on 11/06/2005 2:48:22 PM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: ncountylee
Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats.

And yet one handgun in the right hands would have done wonders.

5 posted on 11/06/2005 2:48:52 PM PST by evolved_rage
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To: evolved_rage

Wonder what the gun laws are like in Ill?


6 posted on 11/06/2005 2:53:29 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

How long before someone will post that THEEEIIIIRRR pit bull would NEVER do anything like this. Big ole babies they are.

Oddly enough, you rarely hear of viscious poodle attacks. But it COUDLN'T be the breed, eh?

Posted as an insurance agent who has never seen a liability claim except for a pit bull, rotweiler, akita and one doberman.


7 posted on 11/06/2005 2:54:34 PM PST by sandbar
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To: Eagles Talon IV
"Can they actually be so inherently vicious or is it that the people who are attracted to these dogs are the kind that turn a dog vicious?"

The 'gangsta' culture and dog-fighting subculture breed these dogs specifically for aggression and a high pain threshold. Moreover, they frequently will have Rottweiler or other large breeds cut into the blood line to increase their bulk.

The American Staffordshire Terrier was, and is, in the keep of a competent and experienced handler, an excellent breed: owners included Teddy Roosevelt, Helen Keller and indeed, the Little Rascals' Petey, was an American Staff. Sadly, many of these dogs would best be put down as they have been bred and deliberately socialized to be dangerous.

Nevertheless, I still disagree vehemently with laws that ban their ownership for multiple reasons, and simply think that negligent owners should be hammered.

8 posted on 11/06/2005 2:55:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: ncountylee

before the wild dogz on FR begin their viscious anti-pit bull ranting .....
I have owned 3 pit bulls and I have owned toy poodles.

I had a toy poodle that would tear out your throat if you got near my son when he was a baby. By current pit bull just sighs as my jack Russell terrier terrorizes him when he's trying to take a nap.

Are pit bulls dangerous? - only as dangerous as the human who trained him. Just like horses, cown or any other large animal, you do NOT allow chilren to play with them - they are not toys and they are rough.

Ignorance of anti-pit bull dogs is no different than the ignorance of anti-smokers and anti-gun fascists.

In the case of this article the dogs' owners should be jailed and charged with assault and the animals , unfortunately, destroyed since they have been irrepairably damaged by the owner.

I would prefer to have the owner staked out on the ground naked and pour gravy over his privates and then let his pitbulls out for a snack.


9 posted on 11/06/2005 2:55:54 PM PST by soltice
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To: ncountylee

Shucks, they would charge him for discharging a firearm within city limits and take away his FOID card along with the offending weapon.

Blessings, Bobo


10 posted on 11/06/2005 2:56:32 PM PST by bobo1
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To: sandbar

Rare to see an animal turn on it's owner like this.


11 posted on 11/06/2005 2:56:44 PM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Why is it always or almost always Pitt Bulls that do this?

More accurately, why do the news stories always report pit bulls?

Lazy news reporters don't know one dog from another. They report any dog attack as a "pit bull attack" without knowing the actual breed of the dog. A case awhile ago was reported as a "pit bull attack" - turned out to be a retriever-chow mix but the correction was buried on page A26.

Don't think this is possible? More than one person has mistaken my Labrador Retriever for a pit bull. There are more stupid people out there than you would think.

However, there also are actual dangerous dogs out there and many of them are "pit bull type". This is because this is the gangsta dog du jour and all the antisocial criminals want one. When I was younger, the German Shepherd was the Scary Dog, then it was Dobes, then Rottweilers.

While these dogs are based on the APBT and Staffordshire terrier, as another poster mentioned the gangsta types have introduced crossbreeds for size and have trained these dogs for aggression towards humans (a characteristic that the old APBTs never had - oddly enough because it would be dangerous to the handlers in a dogfight). Give a gangsta a couple of goofy old lovable Golden Retrievers and 8-10 generations and he could breed and train Killer Goldens.

And ignorant trailer trash types would buy them, trying to look big.

These dogs should be destroyed because their breeder and owner have ruined them. But the breeder and owner ought to be hammered to the fullest extent of the law, and then have everything they own taken away in damages and their wages garnished for the next 50 years.

12 posted on 11/06/2005 3:07:33 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

3 pitbulls on the loose can only be stopped with firearms.


13 posted on 11/06/2005 3:11:13 PM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: sandbar

Right on sandbar. It is always interesting to know that it's the owner's fault and not the breed. Gee, that's some consolation to a parent who has just had their child's face ripped off.


14 posted on 11/06/2005 3:11:18 PM PST by donaldo
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To: JustDoItAlways
A short-barreled 12 gauge would probably be just about right, loaded with No. 1 or No. 2 Buck.

And I would be sorely tempted to shoot the owner right along with the dogs, bitten off thumb or no bitten off thumb.

15 posted on 11/06/2005 3:13:16 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
When I was young I owned a German Shepard, he was a real sweetheart as far as the family went. Around other people however he was vicious and it took me a few years before I realized this. He was raised with love and kindness and never treated badly, never hit, kicked, starved or abused in anyway physically or mentally. I hated to admit he was a vicious dog, but finally realized it when he attacked a meter reader without provocation. I had him put down and would never own another Shepard.

There are vicious breeds, pit bulls may be one of them, some breeds are made for fighting and need to be kept under constant restraint. Unfortunately, there are also many people who are soft on dogs that won't admit some of them can be bad without being abused.

Certain breeds are more dangerous than others by their breeding and even if raised lovingly can turn on people, this is a fact not fiction. That's not to say the "nice" breeds can't attack people also, but to say that various breeds that comprise the pit bull family and other breeds such as Dobermans, Shepards etc. don't attack more often than breeds such as Golden Retrievers is just pulling the old head in the sand trick and ignoring facts.

16 posted on 11/06/2005 3:55:23 PM PST by calex59
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I don't think the breed should be banned, but I question anyone who chooses to keep a dog that has been bred over the years for fighting and aggression, that has incredibly powerful jaws and that has been bred to hold on for dear life. People like to point out that pits can be very friendly animals. I don’t doubt that, but so can a black lab or an English Setter and if one of those dogs goes nuts they aren’t liable to kill or maim somebody. 1/3rd of dog deaths in the US in the last 25 years have been caused by pits. That is more than twice that of any other breed. Anyone who lives in a neighborhood with lots of children, or who has children themselves is being reckless and irresponsible if they choose to have a pet like this. Its like having a pet alligator!


18 posted on 11/06/2005 4:43:22 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: ncountylee
15 minutes? Hmmmm.

If that happened on my street any one of about 50% of the homes would have had it finished by 5 minutes.

All the Cops would have would be a curbside cleanup.
19 posted on 11/06/2005 5:42:37 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: soltice

While I do not care for pit bulls I have to agree with you on most issues in your post.

As a general rule, not talking about your poodle, I've found that owners of little dogs let them get more out of hand.

Ankle biters PO me to the max. The owner is going "Oh, isn't he cute, he thinks he's a big dog." as he's nipping and chewing on the bottom of your pants leg. Since I have to be nice I were long jeans when I'm working.

Big dogs I can handle, it's the little ones I want to drop kick to the other side of the room.


20 posted on 11/06/2005 5:49:29 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Can they actually be so inherently vicious or is it that the people who are attracted to these dogs are the kind that turn a dog vicious.

I think that the problem is two-pronged--part nature, part nurture. As a way to look at temperament broadly, do a google search on the temperament of the German Shepherd Dog. You will find that certain "lines" (DDR, Czech working, West German, American show, etc.) are considered to be either softer or more working type/tougher depending on their country of origin.

In my own breed, a herding/guard dog, some individual US breeders breed a tougher, working type dog and others prefer to breed a softer, family version. American-bred dogs of my breed tend to be softer than their Euro counterparts. As I have no sheep to herd on my 1/2 acre plot in suburbia, have lots of kids and dogs nearby, and little need for a "guard" dog (although I like a watch dog), I prefer a softer, dog.

I think that the *overall* temperament of the "pit bull" has deteriorated over the last couple of decades as it has become the dog of choice for drug dealers and others who desire an aggressive dog. That is not to say that the pit bull is an "inherently" aggressive breed. If one looks at the "pit bull" of the past, it was considered a much-beloved family pet.

However, if someone wants to breed an aggressive dog, all he has to do is take the most aggressive, hair-trigger dog from a litter *of any breed*, breed it, and then take the most vicious dog from that litter and breed it and so on and so on until, several generations out, the "breeder" is going to have a bunch of unstable, vicious nuts.

I have seen well-bred and well-trained pit bull-type dogs that were a credit to their breed. I once saw an Am Staff run a standard excellent agility course and it was inspiring--the dog was a marvel of supple power and drive. When he was done, his "mom" whipped out a chew toy and dog settled down nicely. Meanwhile, about 50 feet away, a border collie was going after another dog as the two dogs were taking turns on the practice jump.

I have seen plenty of Am Staffs and other large terriers hanging out around conformation rings with nary a snark. In the right hands, a well-bred "pit bull" can be a great family or perfomance dog.

In my own neighborhood, when I walk my dog *on a lead,* we have been chased by a supervised cocker, an unsupervised doxie (who was hell-bent on biting my ankle), and a black lab mix whose kids can't seem to keep him behind the screen door.

Our one encounter with a "pit bull" had my heart momentarily in my throat. My intact boy was about 16 months old and we were walking down the sidewalk, approaching a driveway. There was a truck parked in the driveway, and once we passed the bed of the truck, I caught a "pit bull" taking a few steps toward us, alert. His owner was on a cell phone beside the truck, looked up and told the dog sit/stay. Dog sat and stayed. I wanted to go give that guy a hug!

Believe me, when pit bulls are no longer welcomed in communties, drug dealers and other thugs will look to Black Russian Terriers, Presa Canario, bouviers, or something else. I imagine it's not too hard to make a dog of just about any breed vicious by beating and baiting it to no end...

(The other issue is the AKC, papers, breeding requirements/regulating, but that's a whole 'nother ball of wax.)

My2cents,

Missy

21 posted on 11/06/2005 5:56:42 PM PST by missycocopuffs (When did we start using tag lines?)
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To: SmoothTalker

"if they choose to have a pet like this. Its like having a pet alligator!"

I agree - it is and it bears the same responsibiiities.

If you own horses - I lived on ranches - you do not allow unsupervised children or ignorant adults around your horses either - a horse can kill faster & easier than by a pit bull. One of my pit bulls found out my horse was a lot tougher than he was. He's still limping 12 years later.

They get along great with my cats also - never biting at them even when they were clawed - my cats are NEVER DECLAWED either.

It's interesting how it's the SPCA who wants these animals dead the most! Just like all the other liberals and fanatics that suffer from a lack of intelligence.

The SPCA - for those who don't know - is the ARMED branch of PETA, ELF and ALF with full confiscatory powers by untrained zealots. If they want to charge you with an "animal crime" did you know that in most states you will be sent in for a MANDATORY psychiatric evaluation?

Shades of the soviet gulag, nyet?

No I have never had direct dealing with these nut cases.


22 posted on 11/06/2005 6:14:30 PM PST by soltice
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To: ncountylee

Why do people own these dogs?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 11/06/2005 6:16:50 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: missycocopuffs; calex59
However, if someone wants to breed an aggressive dog, all he has to do is take the most aggressive, hair-trigger dog from a litter *of any breed*, breed it, and then take the most vicious dog from that litter and breed it and so on and so on until, several generations out, the "breeder" is going to have a bunch of unstable, vicious nuts.

See my post 12 . . . "Give a gangsta a couple of goofy old lovable Golden Retrievers and 8-10 generations and he could breed and train Killer Goldens."

I know a couple of Goldens who would be good candidates for such a breeding program . . . they are field Goldens, the "little red dogs", and they generally are a lot sharper and more prey-driven than the average big lazy lunk of a house pet Golden. They need that drive and aggressiveness to perform in field trials, especially since they're competing with the Labs who are much faster, especially in the water. But some of them have it to a degree that makes them aggressive towards other dogs and humans, and if you were to breed exclusively for the aggressiveness, you could get some VERY mean Goldens in a few generations.

Same thing goes with the German Shepherds - the ones bred for schützen are much "sharper" than the American show variety.

So by choosing the parents, you could make almost any breed inherently vicious.

24 posted on 11/06/2005 7:02:06 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: ncountylee
Pit bulls attacked people??? That can't be. They are just the sweetest, nicest, most gentle of animals. Surely it must have been a pack of fluffy golden retrievers and springer spaniels wearing red bandannas looking for tennis balls and chewed up frisbees.
25 posted on 11/07/2005 4:11:17 AM PST by GBA
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To: Joe 6-pack

I'm not against banning the breed, but I'm for hammering the owners first. Massive fines, automatic jail time and total liability to those injured in the event of an attack and steep home and renter insurance premiums. Most don't own a home outright and must have insurance to get a mortgage. Go after the landlords as well. Make these dogs so expensive to own that no one wants one. Go after the breeders as well. Make neutering mandatory for licensing. If these measures don't stop the attacks, then ban the breed.


26 posted on 11/07/2005 4:27:46 AM PST by GBA
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To: AnAmericanMother
Thank you for the informative reply. As for your statement "There are more stupid people out there than you would think." That is simply not possible.
27 posted on 11/07/2005 5:46:10 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV (Still waiting for the)
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To: missycocopuffs

Thank you for the information.


28 posted on 11/07/2005 5:48:55 AM PST by Eagles Talon IV (Still waiting for the)
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To: missycocopuffs
Forgot the "Old Home Week" question last night . . .

I thought I might have seen you around the agility trials -- since there's a lady here with three Bernese Mountain Dogs -- but I see you live in Michigan. Which association do you run, and what kind of dogs do you have?

My little Lab is OA, NAJ in AKC and has her Agility Dog title in USDAA . . . she loves agility almost as much as she loves chasing ducks.


The trial season is just getting cranked back up here (it's too hot to run until late October/early November) and we're hoping to finish up her Open jumpers title and work our way through the next level of USDAA this season.

29 posted on 11/07/2005 5:54:27 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: PeteB570
Big dogs I can handle, it's the little ones I want to drop kick to the other side of the room.

Amen to that, brother!

A lot of small dog owners tolerate totally unacceptable behavior and think it's "cute" because their dogs are so tiny they think they can't hurt anybody. But they can. A small dog bite HURTS, an infected bite can kill you (just more slowly), and they could still be dangerous to a child or baby (there was a Pom of all things that killed an infant awhile back).

I work hard with my Lab getting her to behave and sit (she loves to run to people and fawn on their legs, but she's FINALLY getting the message at age 4 that you can't just do that to everyone), and I resent people who let their dogs just run wild and yap at everyone and everything.

The kicker for me is that everyone thinks my dog is "so well trained" - she's not, she's a Silly Lab, but apparently to most people ANY training is a marvel and wonder.

30 posted on 11/07/2005 6:13:00 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
So by choosing the parents, you could make almost any breed inherently vicious

Exactly, and conversely, one can "breed out" aggression. I have read that when dobermans were first brought to the US in the 1920s and presented at conformation events, they were so sharp and aggressive that judges could not put their hands on the dogs.

Serious dobe fanciers in this country decided that this could not stand and, by carefully selecting "easier" breeding stock, they managed to soften the temperament to a desirable level, one that allowed judges (and others) to actually touch the dogs while still retaining their working abilities.

31 posted on 11/07/2005 6:55:20 AM PST by missycocopuffs (When did we start using tag lines?)
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To: missycocopuffs

Well, they've succeeded admirably, there are two Dobes in our agility class who are both adorable. The female is not really sharp, but she's wound a little tight and a bit nervous. The male is a big, placid, friendly lunk from show lines, he's always happy to see you. My little Lab is in love . . . she fawns on his legs and kisses his face. He smiles benignly and kisses back.


32 posted on 11/07/2005 7:01:42 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother
What a cutie she is!

I have a labby/beagle mix in my little pack here. I agree that any well-trained lab *is* a marvel.

I have not yet trialed my herding dog in agility. He's a 22 month old intact boy, and I started him in agility class (he loves weaving!) at the end of summer for confidence-building and just to keep him out in the world.

He was given to me last fall when he was 10 months old, having spent most of his puppyhood in a kennel and needing lots of remedial socialization.

We are up to adv novice/open in our obedience classes and, although I don't have firm plans to trial him anytime soon, I intend to keep working him in obedience and different venues until he is at least past adolescence.

Missy (who believes that serious breeds require a serious commitment to training and socialization)

33 posted on 11/07/2005 7:43:45 AM PST by missycocopuffs (When did we start using tag lines?)
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To: AnAmericanMother
oops...I forgot to add LOL after my comment that a well-trained labby *is* a marvel.

I have a labby/beagle mix (and he is a crazy, little nutter), a golden, and a briard.

Good luck with your trialing.

34 posted on 11/07/2005 8:35:38 AM PST by missycocopuffs (When did we start using tag lines?)
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To: ncountylee
Jim Malone said he and a neighbor tried to beat the dogs back with baseball bats.

Tough dogs. Still, I wouldn't expect a bat to have much effect on any large dog, unless you got a really good hit to the skull.

Better an axe or even a big crowbar, or best a 12GA.

35 posted on 11/07/2005 8:45:59 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: AnAmericanMother
There are more stupid people out there than you would think.

Nominated for "FR Understatement Of The Year".

Paris Hiltons fame, and Massachussets, are evidence enough.

36 posted on 11/07/2005 8:52:14 AM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx; Eagles Talon IV
There are more stupid people out there than you would think.

Nominated for "FR Understatement Of The Year".

Well, not EVERYbody is stupid (witness all the nice FReepers), so there must be a finite number, but every time I think I've got a handle on it, more stupid people pop up. < g >

37 posted on 11/07/2005 9:32:59 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: missycocopuffs
Briard's an interesting looking dog.

Haven't seen any around the agility ring here.

My girl started in obedience, but she is such a live wire . . . our trainer said, "You know, I think she'd be happier in agility." And she was.

I don't think I'm going to take her on to MACh, just retire her with her Excellent A title . . . so then we may go back to obedience now that she's 4 years old and a LOT calmer.

38 posted on 11/07/2005 9:37:49 AM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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