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Transexual Dies After Scuffle
KOGO.COM ^ | 11/30/05 | KSCO

Posted on 11/30/2005 8:48:11 AM PST by CAWats

A transsexual woman died four days after a melee with sheriff's deputies at the downtown jail. The medical examiner's office was awaiting toxicology results before announcing a cause of death. "There is nothing to indicate that the use of force caused this death," Sgt. Rick Empson said Monday. Vanessa Facen, 35, had fought with deputies and medical personnel numerous times since she was found naked and bleeding inside her neighbor's Spring Valley home on Nov. 17. Facen apparently climbed onto the balcony, dived through a neighbor's glass door and tumbled down a flight of stairs. Facen, who was "covered with blood from head to toe," opened the door for deputies, told them she was HIV-positive and appeared to be cooperating, Sgt. Paul Robbins said. But she became enraged en route to a hospital, broke free from her leg restraints and kicked out the window of the ambulance, the sergeant said. She was sedated, treated and released later in the day. Empson said she became violent again after leaving the hospital and kicked out the window of a patrol car.

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1 posted on 11/30/2005 8:48:12 AM PST by CAWats
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To: CAWats

"Released later in the day"?.....if that had been a straight, white male, who was not HIV positive, he would have still been in jail.....IMHO


2 posted on 11/30/2005 8:53:34 AM PST by Meadow Muffin
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To: CAWats

thou shalt not bear falsies against thy neighbor.


3 posted on 11/30/2005 8:54:02 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: CAWats

"A transsexual woman..."



Isn't that a bit ambiguous?


4 posted on 11/30/2005 8:54:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: CAWats
Sounds possessed.
5 posted on 11/30/2005 8:54:31 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: CAWats

Tranie problems? I guess they should have gone to AAMCO instead of the hospital.


6 posted on 11/30/2005 8:55:38 AM PST by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: PetroniusMaximus

well, the important thing is, if he/she had an accidental death only policy, it probably wouldn't be paid because the fracas wasn't the proximate cause of death...


7 posted on 11/30/2005 9:01:46 AM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: CAWats

Isn't it interesting that the biggest news of this incident is that it involved a transexual. Political correctness has a way of dehumanizing and stereotyping everyone into its own discrete categories. Everyone is identified by a prefix that determines their moral worth, like black, hispanic, gay, HIV positive, conservative, Christian, Republican, white, etc. This prefix always telegraphs the slant the story will take or at least the emotions the story is intended to stir. To the left, you're not a person; you're a label, and that's the only value a life represents.


8 posted on 11/30/2005 9:03:00 AM PST by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: CAWats
Although Facen had breasts and lived as a woman, the Sheriff's Department was treating her as a man because she had male genitalia

No, he had male genitalia.
9 posted on 11/30/2005 9:04:04 AM PST by Millee ("Life is just one damned thing after another" - Elbert Hubbard)
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To: CAWats
Although Facen had breasts and lived as a woman, the Sheriff's Department was treating her as a man because she had male genitalia, Lt. Tom Bennett said.

That's about as severe an assault on a transexual's persona as you can make, roughly the equivalent of force-feeding pork to a devout Jew; no wonder she became violent. The cops should have known better.

10 posted on 11/30/2005 9:09:17 AM PST by Grut
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To: CAWats

"told them she was HIV-positive and appeared to be cooperating, Sgt. Paul Robbins said."
Did Robbins call him a she? Did Empson call him a she.
The reporter would have you think so by putting she and "xxx said" in the same sentence.


11 posted on 11/30/2005 9:12:26 AM PST by jjmcgo
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To: Millee

That always amuses me. "Lived as" a woman? You either are, or aren't. I mean if a guy wants to dress like RuPaul that's OK by me, but he's still a "he" as far as I am concerned.

If it's a weiner you see, then a man you be.


12 posted on 11/30/2005 9:14:03 AM PST by RockinRight (Itís likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: RockinRight
If it's a weiner you see, then a man you be.

LOL! I see a new tagline in your future. ;-D
13 posted on 11/30/2005 9:17:39 AM PST by Millee ("Life is just one damned thing after another" - Elbert Hubbard)
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To: CAWats
Facen [a naked transexual], who was "covered with blood from head to toe," opened the door for deputies, told them she was HIV-positive

At this point, I would say "Sorry to bother you" and quietly close the door. Guess I wouldn't make it as a paramedic.

14 posted on 11/30/2005 9:20:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Grut

The cops should have known better and made better accomodations for the tranny? A mental illness, a pair of plastic boobs and a dress does not a woman make. The police--and by extension the government--should never be required to bow down to such PC delusions.


15 posted on 11/30/2005 9:29:06 AM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: Millee

Hmmm...I was trying to think of a new tagline!


16 posted on 11/30/2005 9:31:48 AM PST by RockinRight (Itís likely for a Conservative to be a Republican, but not always the other way around)
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To: two134711

"As a man believes in his heart, so is he." Or she, depending on what it is he believes. ;^)


17 posted on 11/30/2005 10:00:29 AM PST by Grut
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To: Millee

"BALLS!!!" said the queen "...if I had 'em I'd be King"


18 posted on 11/30/2005 10:10:40 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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To: Grut

If that's so, then is my husband truly the "Supreme Ruler of the Universe" as he has been calling himself these many years? I might owe him an apology. :-P


19 posted on 11/30/2005 10:14:16 AM PST by two134711 (Haven't we learned by now not to trust the AP to tell the whole truth?)
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To: Meadow Muffin

It's the new "catch and release" program.


Works only for the downtrodden, faggots, and other leftist supported groups.


20 posted on 11/30/2005 11:41:00 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (All rights reserved.)
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To: Vaquero

I thought it went "Balls" said the queen, "If I had two I'd be king"?


21 posted on 11/30/2005 12:34:04 PM PST by synbad600
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To: synbad600

'taint the way I heard it.....but it is more than plausable.


I wonder who said which first?


22 posted on 11/30/2005 2:10:43 PM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. A. Heinlein)
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