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Bush lights Christmas tree, doesn't name Christ - President jokes about 'one humble life that lifted
WND.com ^ | 12-02-05 | Worldnet Daily

Posted on 12/02/2005 8:39:51 AM PST by emiller

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To: emiller
Hmm. Jesus joke? That makes me think of "Jesus Juice" which makes me think of Michael jackson which means I must post a really scary picutre of him here:


61 posted on 12/02/2005 9:09:15 AM PST by isthisnickcool (America!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
It was meant to be humorous.

Didn't work.

62 posted on 12/02/2005 9:09:30 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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Here's apparently the first article, which implies that it was a Santa joke:

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/articles/article.html?id=10425

Article is by Dustin Hawkins, for a website called "The Conservative Voice" in "TCV Exclusive News". Filed about 12 hours ago, WND ran with it about 6 hours ago.

Meanwhile, here's the White House transcript, complete with a video:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051201-7.html

"THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all very much. Welcome to the Christmas Pageant of Peace. Laura and I are so honored to join you all. The lighting of the National Christmas tree is one of the great traditions in our Nation's Capital. Each year, we gather here to celebrate the season of hope and joy -- and to remember the story of one humble life that lifted the sights of humanity.

Santa, thanks for coming. (Laughter.) Glad you made it. I know you've got a lot of commitments this time of year. By the way, we have a lot of chimneys at the White House -- (laughter) -- if you're looking for something to do. I appreciate all our entertainers. Thanks for being here. This is a fantastic evening.

I want to thank Peter Nostrand, who is the Chairman of the Christmas Pageant of Peace, and John Betchkal, all the members of the board. I appreciate Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton, other members of my Cabinet who are here. I appreciate the members of Congress who have come.

I particularly want to give a special thanks to the National Parks Service Director Fran Mainella and all the good folks who work for the National Parks Service. (Applause.) Reverend Martin, thank you very much as well.

Christmas is a time to rejoice, and to give thanks for the blessings of the season and for the blessings that surround us every day of the year. We also remember that we have a responsibility to help those in need. America is a compassionate and generous land. And acts of kindness toward others fulfill the spirit of the season.

As we approach Christmas in this time of war, we pray for freedom, and justice, and peace on Earth. In his Christmas Eve address to the nation in 1941, Franklin Roosevelt said that "Against enemies who preach the principles of hate and practice them, we set our faith in human love, and in God's care for us and all men everywhere." We ask for God to watch over our men and women in uniform who are serving overseas.Their families miss them -- hold a seat open for them -- and pray for their safe return. America's military men and women stand for freedom -- and they serve the cause of peace. Many of them are serving in distant lands tonight, but they are close to our hearts.

As an expression of our hope for peace and happiness in this Christmas season, we light the national Christmas tree. Jackie, Melissa, and Jenna Kantor of Bethesda are with us here. They started "Project Backpack," to help give children displaced by Hurricane Katrina new backpacks filled with books, and toys and school supplies. These girls are an example of the compassion that is found in the hearts and souls of Americans everywhere, and they have shown how much good can be done when we reach out to help a neighbor in need. And so Laura and I now invite them to join us to turn on the lights.

And would you help turn on these lights, as well, by counting down. Five ... Four ... Three ... Two ... One. (Applause.)


END 5:59 P.M. EST


63 posted on 12/02/2005 9:09:40 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Yo-Yo; All

Read it here

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051201-7.html#

Totaly different concept.


64 posted on 12/02/2005 9:10:01 AM PST by Krodg
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To: emiller

Yes, Bush made an offensive joke,



And you've never done that, correct... with all your Christian leanings...?


65 posted on 12/02/2005 9:10:50 AM PST by deport
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To: shield

Thanks for the clarification. At least, that clears the slander that Jesus' name was never mentioned (as suggested by WND and the poster who posted this thread).


66 posted on 12/02/2005 9:11:22 AM PST by indcons (Don't question either my intelligence or my ability; I have none.)
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To: Krodg
Totaly different concept.

There's still no way around it. The "(laughter)" after his remark shows that it was clearly intended as a joke.

By the way, audiences can't see paragraph breaks.

67 posted on 12/02/2005 9:12:17 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I didn't see the delivery.. but, knowing how the President speaks, he does tend to speak somewhat, let me say this gently as possible, disjointed. Know what I mean? I'm sure in his mind, he does not compare Jesus, to Santa.


68 posted on 12/02/2005 9:12:19 AM PST by go-ken-go (i)
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To: deport
And you've never done that, correct... with all your Christian leanings...?

In public? During a Christmas address?

I can only imagine what this thread would look like if Clinton had made the same remark.

69 posted on 12/02/2005 9:13:32 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: emiller

WND I have a clue for you: If Jesus were Santa, we all would put out more than cookies and hot chocolate out on Christmass Eve.


70 posted on 12/02/2005 9:13:58 AM PST by jonrick46
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To: eyespysomething
Meant to ping you to this and my original post. I found Santa's declaration:

Christmas is a very special time of year, but... this year it almost didn't happen. There's a man named Jesus who gave his life to save me. And so I declare that every year on Christmas Day we should remember Jesus for what he did, and thank him for it. From now on, Christmas will be a day for remembering a brave man named Jesus.

Thank you Santa for putting meaning back into Christmas.

71 posted on 12/02/2005 9:14:34 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Lighten up. I was actually there and it did not come across in his delivery that way. Anyone else attend? If not, drop it.


72 posted on 12/02/2005 9:14:54 AM PST by ChicksforConservatives
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To: inquest
I can only imagine what this thread would look like if Clinton had made the same remark.

People would have seen it for just what it was and is..... The President made reference to the reason for the season, then without a pause he turned to the fellow playing Santa, and thanked him for coming. Nothing more, nothing less. Give it up folks, the President did not make a Jesus joke.

73 posted on 12/02/2005 9:16:04 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush and the SAPPS)
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To: emiller
and to remember the story of one humble life that lifted the sights of humanity. Santa, thanks for coming.

Sorry, that's a direct mention of Jesus. The Santa bit was a silly joke. Don't you think Jesus has a sense of humor? He probably got a little chuckle out of it.

74 posted on 12/02/2005 9:16:24 AM PST by alnick
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To: isthisnickcool

You just wanted to post a Michael Jackson picture and freak us out with that pointy thing where his nose should be.


75 posted on 12/02/2005 9:16:50 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

I watched the video, and this is a total nonstory, other than that once again Joe Farah and World Nut Daily has dishonestly twisted a story the same way ABC/CNN/MSNBC/CBS/NBC/New York Times do, in order to slam Bush and once again play the victim. And perhaps a second story of how some professional self-annointed martyrs for Jesus (Papercut division of the Order of Perpetual Panties in a Wad) once again lap up every bit of bait from a thoroughly and continuously discredited internet rag(WND), who do more damage to social conservatism than everything ever printed in the NY Slimes.

But switching into World Nut Daily's wakeup mode - "How can we be offended today?" (applying Rush's old line) - let's notice how the President cruely told children that Santa wasn't real, but rather a guy named Peter Nostrand:

"Santa, thanks for coming. (Laughter.) Glad you made it. I know you've got a lot of commitments this time of year. By the way, we have a lot of chimneys at the White House -- (laughter) -- if you're looking for something to do. I appreciate all our entertainers. Thanks for being here. This is a fantastic evening. I want to thank Peter Nostrand..."


76 posted on 12/02/2005 9:19:19 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; deport; Krodg
OK, I take it all back. I looked at the video hosted on the White House website (linked to on the page that Krodg linked to at #64), and it appears that his "Santa" remark was directed at a particular person in the audience, and that it did indeed come after a pause after his opening statements.
77 posted on 12/02/2005 9:19:38 AM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: emiller

It's fun to watch WND get it's panties in a bunch over the stupidest crap. The White House Christmas card has a scripture quote which doesn't mention Jesus either: Psalm 28:7


78 posted on 12/02/2005 9:21:41 AM PST by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Quotes from the speech you posted:

Christmas is a time to rejoice

we pray for freedom, and justice, and peace on Earth

We ask for God to watch over our men and women in uniform who are serving overseas

Five ... Four ... Three ... Two ... One.

Yeah, I’d say Bush is really looking to offend Christians with this speech. For those who think that this joke represents their government telling them they can’t be Christian, I really see your point.

/sarc

79 posted on 12/02/2005 9:22:38 AM PST by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: OldFriend

You are 100% wrong, and here is the video of his speech to prove it:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051201-7.html#

The pause between his Jesus paragraph and his Santa paragraph is much longer than his pauses between other paragraphs.


80 posted on 12/02/2005 9:23:13 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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