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ATTENTION: LIFETIME HAS TAKEN YOUR CHANNELS AWAY!(From Dish Network)
Dish Network ^ | 1/1/05 | Charlie Ergen, CEO of DISH Network

Posted on 01/01/2006 2:17:12 PM PST by Revel

ATTENTION: LIFETIME HAS TAKEN YOUR CHANNELS AWAY! You may have tuned in today to see the Lifetime Channel or the Lifetime Movie Network.

Unfortunately, DISH Network's contract with Lifetime Networks expired on December 31st and we no longer have the legal right to carry these channels.

I can assure you that at DISH Network we have made every effort to renew our agreement and continue to carry these channels.

However, Lifetime Networks have demanded a rate increase of over 70 percent which would result in unreasonable rate increases for you, our customers.

While we were surprised by Lifetime Network’s outrageous demand, the fact that we have had a good relationship with them for 10 years gives us hope that we can reach a fair agreement.

Until such time as we have a new contract with Lifetime Networks, I hope you will enjoy this free preview of The Women's Entertainment channel.

I am very sorry for any inconvenience.

We appreciate your support and encourage your feedback.

Thank you for being a DISH Network customer.

Sincerely, Charlie Ergen, CEO of DISH Network

Lifetime posted inaccurate information pertaining to Dish Network’s loss of the Lifetime Movie Network. Click here for the response from President and CEO, Charlie Ergen.

Tell us what you think by writing us at: ceoofdishnetwork@dishnetwork.com


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: dish; lifetime; susanluccichannel
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Dish Network has done it again. A few years ago they dropped some other channels in the same way. Of course The lifetime channels are just about the only channels that run movies that I have never seen before. So this is a great loss for me. Dish is replacing both of these channels with "WE". The only problem is that I already have WE. So now I have WE on 3 channels. The bill remains the same however.
1 posted on 01/01/2006 2:17:15 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

THREE FREAKING CHANNELS OF WE...CAN I KILL MYSELF NOW


2 posted on 01/01/2006 2:19:10 PM PST by skaterboy (My candy cane is so yummy and delicious)
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To: William Creel

My wife hates this.


4 posted on 01/01/2006 2:20:32 PM PST by Sybeck1 (The Washington Redskins- the Cinderella team of 2005)
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To: skaterboy

I provided and article, but somehow I just knew this would get moved to Chat.


5 posted on 01/01/2006 2:21:25 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

This is the best news I have heard in a long time. My wife loves the Lifetime Channel while I hate the men-are-abusive-and women-are-victims channel. Any time I have glanced at it somebody is being (1) killed (2)cheated on (3) some pervert spying on a naked woman or (4) kidnapped.


6 posted on 01/01/2006 2:25:24 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Revel

Lifetimes responce:

CALL NOW AND TELL DISH NETWORK TO STOP DENYING THE TRUTH AND DENYING WOMEN LIFETIME: 1-888-284-7116

The Truth is that DISH Pulled the Plug on Women on New Year's Eve, Over Just Pennies, and Despite Lifetime's Offer of a Contract Extension

If you or anyone you know is a DISH subscriber, you may have tried to tune in to Lifetime and Lifetime Movie Network for the great movies we wanted to share with you during the holidays and found that we're off the air. You may have heard from DISH and its CEO Charlie Ergen that this is a result of our asking for a 70 percent increase to carry Lifetime and Lifetime Movie Network. But the Truth is that DISH is totally misleading their subscribers and at the same time, denying women their favorite networks. The Truth is that DISH unilaterally pulled Lifetime Networks off the air, on New Year's Eve no less, despite our offer to extend their contract through the holidays and despite more than seven months of our efforts to reach a fair agreement. The Truth is that we only asked for pennies more for the number 1 and number 2 women's channels, a fraction of what DISH and Charlie Ergen have been willing to pay for much less popular networks.

Make your dissatifaction heard right away by calling DISH at 1-888-284-7116 and emailing ceoofdishnetwork@dishnetwork.com and ask Charlie Ergen to tell the Truth and put Lifetime and Lifetime Movie Network back on the air. We deeply regret the difficulty this disruption of service has caused our viewers and hope to resolve this quickly, but greatly appreciate all of your support especially in this difficult time.

Click here to contact Lifetime.
http://www.lifetimetv.com/about/echo3.html


7 posted on 01/01/2006 2:25:35 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Have you comparison shopped DirecTV? We left DishNetwork for DirecTV several years ago and are quite happy with the programming selections as well as the service. No complaints.


8 posted on 01/01/2006 2:26:41 PM PST by shezza (40 days)
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To: Revel

Dish's reply to Lifetime message above:

Louise Henry Bryson

President, Distribution and Affiliate Business
Development Lifetime Networks
2049 Century Park East, Suite 840
Los Angeles, CA 90067

Dear Ms. Bryson:

The statements on your website with respect to our dispute are inaccurate. Specifically, you claim that DISH Network violated our contract by taking Lifetime Movie Network off the air. As you are aware the agreement terminated December 31, 2005 and Lifetime refused to offer any extension prior to DISH Network’s loss of the network today (the date of the contract expiration). We are confident we have not breached the agreement and welcome the disclosure to the public, any portion of the contract that demonstrates DISH Network is in violation of our agreement.

In addition, Lifetime’s final demand prior to our loss of the network called for a 76% rate increase under the contract term. DISH Network hereby waives any right to confidentiality which may exist with respect to rates under our existing agreement and the proposed rates under Lifetime’s proposal so that the public can judge for themselves. We challenge Lifetime to likewise agree to the release of that information.

While DISH Network desires to make Lifetime programming available to its customers, we also must protect our customers from exorbitant rate increases. We have valued our relationship with Lifetime Networks over the past 10 years and we are hopeful that we can work together to restore Lifetime programming to DISH Network customers.

Sincerely,


Charlie Ergen
Chief Executive Officer
DISH Network

Back to main page.

Tell us what you think by writing us at: ceoofdishnetwork@dishnetwork.com


9 posted on 01/01/2006 2:28:24 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

This affects, what? 10 or 11 people?


10 posted on 01/01/2006 2:30:11 PM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: shezza

I get promos in the mail all the time for Direct TV. I am going to look into it very seriously now. Most likely will switch. Thank you I have some friends who have it and they have been treated much better.


11 posted on 01/01/2006 2:30:21 PM PST by Revel
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To: William Creel
All the movies have the same theme, battered wife breaks out of an abusive marriage and then the ex-husband stalks her.

Never watched the channel, but that's what I've heard. .....with a few theme variations, of course. Kind of like Oprah's talk show in movie form. (Many) women just eat that stuff up.

12 posted on 01/01/2006 2:31:58 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Revel

Lesbian ch. not lifetime!


13 posted on 01/01/2006 2:33:28 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (“Don't approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or a Fool from any side.”)
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To: BipolarBob

There are more themes than that. And sometimes the men are the victims. But there are many real life stories. People waking up from Coma's after many years. Different things like that.


14 posted on 01/01/2006 2:35:54 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

Who the hell watches Lifetime? It's THE single most boring network there is. And I include the game show channel in that generalization.


15 posted on 01/01/2006 2:37:12 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: BipolarBob

Don't forget the Disease of the Week movie. Every week, Lifetime showcases a new disease and its impact on women and those they love.

Unnnngh.


16 posted on 01/01/2006 2:38:02 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Revel
I have Dish, and I hope these channels stay gone for good.One less channel I have to ignore.

I'm a woman, and I can't stand the crying channel. Then again, I don't watch soap operas, either.

17 posted on 01/01/2006 2:38:04 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Revel

I call lifetime the wife beaters channels. It is all about bd husbands. I won't miss it.


18 posted on 01/01/2006 2:38:39 PM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: Revel

Seems like a common occurence at Dish. It's always interesting to hear Charlie's spin.


19 posted on 01/01/2006 2:39:23 PM PST by FourPeas ("You'll never find a better sparring partner than adversity." Golda Meir)
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To: Xenalyte
I'm with you.

Funny story. When I first had my Dish hooked up years ago, the first thing the guy did was say, "Here. Let me show you where the Lifetime channel is."

I about smacked him. Told him I'd never watched it, and don't intend to. He said it is most women's favorite.

20 posted on 01/01/2006 2:39:59 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Revel

DirecTV


21 posted on 01/01/2006 2:41:22 PM PST by kenth
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To: BipolarBob
I program my remote to skip over that channel.

I mean the neighbors were starting to complain because every time I tried to watch something on it I would end up yelling "For the love of Annie Oakley shoot him you spineless wimp!"

22 posted on 01/01/2006 2:43:05 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Your shovel use permit has been revoked, please turn in all digging tools by noon tomorrow. -OP)
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To: bmwcyle

And you probably won't mind watching the same 20 year old movies on SCIFI,USA,And TBS. Some people are like little kids that just keep rewinding the VCR and hitting PLAY again.


23 posted on 01/01/2006 2:43:23 PM PST by Revel
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To: teenyelliott

Eeeeew!

Just another reason to be glad you and I aren't "most women"!


24 posted on 01/01/2006 2:43:55 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: William Creel
I'd almost pay DirecTV if they would drop Lifetime, Oxygen, WE, Soap and Spike. The so-called women's channnels contain only lessons on how to kill your husband or boyfriend and the so-called Spike for Men contains programming which proves that not much would be lost if you did kill him. Satellite TV programming is now as mindless and insulting to one's intelligence as broadcast television which I stopped watching over twenty years ago. Let them increase my rates. I am one step from using my television as an ugly door stop.

Muleteam1

25 posted on 01/01/2006 2:44:05 PM PST by Muleteam1 (WE had to watch LIFETIME while on OXYGEN.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Not this woman:)

If I want junk food for my brain I watch the cooking channel or HGTV.


26 posted on 01/01/2006 2:45:10 PM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Xenalyte

No kidding. Can't tolerate all the nail polish-pantyhose-facials conversations. And all the victimization crying. Sheesh.


27 posted on 01/01/2006 2:45:39 PM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Revel
I'm on the DirectTV system. ASAIK Lifetime is still on our list, but if they dropped it I couldn't possibly care less. My wife doesn't watch it, and IIRC I have never stopped long enough on that channel while surfing to see what it's all about.

I wish I could just order and pay for the channels I would like to have instead of having to pay for 100 worthless channels we seldom or never watch in order to get the 20 or so that we actually watch. Of course if the FCC was to force the satellite companies to offer cafeteria-style channel selection they would raise the price on the individual channels enough that the price of those 20-odd channels we would keep would add up to the same as I now pay for 120 channels. IOW, you can't win when you play ball with the satellite or cable guys.

28 posted on 01/01/2006 2:46:44 PM PST by epow
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To: Muleteam1
I love Spike! If not for it, I'd have no James Bond-a-thon, and no car crash video shows! Not to mention the best show ever, MXC!
29 posted on 01/01/2006 2:47:12 PM PST by Xenalyte (Can you count, suckas? I say the future is ours . . . if you can count.)
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To: Revel

I don't watch the crap on lifetimes. I have two DVRs and I watch the History channels, TLC, all the Discovery channels. I spend most of my time on my computer.


30 posted on 01/01/2006 2:47:16 PM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: Revel
"Dish Network has done it again."

You bet, my wife tuned in tried to tune in last night and found nothing but a message on the screen.

First, no OLN, which is the only American TV outlet for A1GP.

But the real kicker is what's going to happen next.

I bought a HDTV and Dish HD receiver for Xmas. Turns out that my brand new, high tech, Dish 942 HDTV receiver is going to be obsolete in a couple of DAYS as Dish makes the tansition to a new encoding standard (MPEG4) which my receiver cannot decode nor can it be retro'd. Oh, it'll still work for a "while," but no NEW HDTV channels for me.

What's funny is, Dish told me (and several thouand others) in November 2005 that this MPEG-4 standard was "not promising" and wouldn't be implimented for the forseeable future. As late as two weeks ago they were telling people to go ahead and buy this $700 piece of HDTV history because it could be "upgraded." In fact, you can still buy this machine today from you local Dish retailer (whom I'm sure would be glad to sell it to you). But the Dish CSR's have been told to tell people calling Dish to buy it to WAIT for the new receiver.

Am I mad? You bet.

If I'm not offered this new receiver at a VERY LOW (like free) cost, me and my >$100 Satellite bill are waltzing on over to Di-rect TeeVee.

But not until, I've backed over my $700 mistake (as well as my other Dish HDTV receiver which hasn't worked right since jump) with my car several times, scooped up the remains, and shipped them to Mr. Ergen with a tube of Vaseline and explicit instructions.

31 posted on 01/01/2006 2:50:54 PM PST by TommyUdo (The De-Looks Shore Dinner)
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To: epow
I agree with you that it is a crooked game they play. Oh..You want Fox news...Well that is in the next package up. The networks actually force the cable and satellite operators to carry channels in the same way. If they want a certain channel then have to carry all the channels that network has. It is a real scam that is backed up by the congress so I guess there is not much we are going to be doing about it soon.
32 posted on 01/01/2006 2:51:33 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel

I wouldn't mind trading in a handful of DISH channels for more Angel channels.

I grow weary of scanning several hundred channels only to have less than two to five at any one time with anything with some redeemable value to watch.

I'll pass on the queer guy makeover, the queer guy remodeling, the SouthPark resorting to feces humor, the gay comedian news, another variation of building a 747 out of scrap Briggs&Stratton motors and Balsa wood and slalom ski landing skid workshop shows, and there are only so many Death Wish Bronson remakes,... I admit it, I must be spoiled.


33 posted on 01/01/2006 2:52:22 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: bmwcyle

Well then you can watch "Hooked on Drugs" for the 100th time. Those channels rarely have anything new either.


34 posted on 01/01/2006 2:53:32 PM PST by Revel
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To: Xenalyte
Okay, never been a 007 fan, but I have to admit I like MXC when I have caught it. The running on the big slippery rollers over muddy water is almost as good as the running across the lillypad stones. MXC offers equal opportunity for stupid men and women to compete.

Muleteam1

35 posted on 01/01/2006 2:54:53 PM PST by Muleteam1 (WE had to watch LIFETIME while on OXYGEN.)
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I watched a movie on Lifetime once. Enjoyed it because it had one of my favorite actresses in it, and because the plot didn't totally suck.

One watchable show out of 18,583.......

That's a good ratio, isn't it????

As good as CBS anyway.


36 posted on 01/01/2006 2:54:56 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Revel

OHH NNOOOOOO! No more Lifelong Movie Channel?


37 posted on 01/01/2006 2:56:18 PM PST by REDWOOD99
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To: TommyUdo
Wow..They really got you. Don't count on the upgrade. I have an older pre "Dish 500" receiver. They want cash from me to upgrade it...and they have changed there programing so that my receiver which only picks up from one satellite misses getting a bunch of channels. Direct TV does this upgrade for nothing more than another one year commitment to programing. They even give you the the 2nd dish for local channels. And this is not for new customers only. My friend had it done.
38 posted on 01/01/2006 2:59:48 PM PST by Revel
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To: Cvengr

The choices are terrible. I could not even find one channel to watch today. At least lifetime has a lot of movies I have never seen. I just get tired of reruns...even on the history, Discovery, CourtTV type channels.


39 posted on 01/01/2006 3:03:20 PM PST by Revel
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To: Xenalyte

The Spike movie lineup kicks ass, but they air way too many commercials. ....more annoying than even TBS. During the Bond-a-thon the other night it seemed like 10 minutes of movie followed by 7 minutes of commericals, repeated again and again.


40 posted on 01/01/2006 3:09:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: REDWOOD99

No more Lifetime channel? What ever will Meredith Baxter-Birney do now?


41 posted on 01/01/2006 3:11:07 PM PST by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Revel
"Wow..They really got you. Don't count on the upgrade."

I'm not counting on it, and I'm sick about it.

They-meaning from Mr. Charlie Ergen down-lied about their switch to MPEG-4. And their lie was part of a deliberate attempt to entice me and thousands like me to spend big bucks (for me anyway) to buy the Dish 942.

But, they'll just write me and the other "bleeding edge" types off to what they call "churn."

They don't care if we leave, they're just glad they got a chance to fleece us on the way out the door.

42 posted on 01/01/2006 3:13:00 PM PST by TommyUdo (The De-Looks Shore Dinner)
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To: William Creel

Yep. In Liftime Movie world all men are either brutal abusive stalkers, or pathetic wimps.


43 posted on 01/01/2006 3:14:05 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Cvengr
I'll pass on the queer guy makeover, the queer guy remodeling, the SouthPark resorting to feces humor, the gay comedian news, another variation of building a 747 out of scrap Briggs&Stratton motors and Balsa wood and slalom ski landing skid workshop shows, and there are only so many Death Wish Bronson remakes,..

You and me both. Most TV today is about the worst waste of time I can think of offhand. Sometimes we go for days without bothering to turn ours on. If I could get a reasonably priced high speed internet connection I could get along just fine without a TV set in the house. The only fast connection I can get out here in the boonies is by satellite and the cost is prohibitive for my retirement income.

But even with 56K dialup I spend way more time surfing the web than I do surfing the TV channels. When the weather permits I spend as much or more time hauling, splitting and stacking firewood as I do either watching TV or web surfing. I also spend a good bit of time in winter reloading ammunition for summer shooting on my homemade shooting range. With all that going on, who needs TV anyway?

44 posted on 01/01/2006 3:44:06 PM PST by epow
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To: Revel
"I get promos in the mail all the time for Direct TV. I am going to look into it very seriously now. Most likely will switch. Thank you I have some friends who have it and they have been treated much better."

Good luck getting your local channels included in the package...I went to Dish after years of missing my local channels because I wouldn't pay Direct TV extra for them.
I really like Dish's format which lets me do things I couldn't with Direct TV, although to keep pace, I understand Direct TV finally got on board with some improvements.
Too late for me though...I'm very happy with my Dish!
45 posted on 01/01/2006 3:52:35 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (To liberals, using large words is an acceptable substitute for logic...)
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To: Revel

"People waking up from Coma's after many years. Different things like that."

You mean like...a liberal finally having a coherent thought?


46 posted on 01/01/2006 3:54:50 PM PST by yer gonna put yer eye out (To liberals, using large words is an acceptable substitute for logic...)
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To: Revel

We have Dish and I have never watched Lifetime because I surmised that it was another "woman=victim" channel. I am eagerly awaiting the day when I pay only for the six or eight channels we watch consistently out of the 120 we pay for.


47 posted on 01/01/2006 3:57:16 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Revel
The lifetime channels are just about the only channels that run movies that I have never seen before. So this is a great loss for me.

If you have never seen Lifetime's offerings before, you have got to be the only one, for that network runs their stable of flicks over and over and over. Bad enough that, but how many times do you need to have the same story re-done? It runs the gamut from I-divorced-a-jerk to I-am-innocent-though-spending-my-best-years-in-prison to the standard my-best-friend-is-sleeping-with-my-16-year-old-son. Trust me, you haven't lost a thing.

48 posted on 01/01/2006 4:08:24 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: Revel
Direct TV does this upgrade for nothing more than another one year commitment to programing. They even give you the the 2nd dish for local channels. And this is not for new customers only. My friend had it done.

As much as I despise all the cable and satellite companies I have to hand it to Direct, it's the least maddening one of the bunch. The support people have been very good, and the service even better. When we decided to add local channels they sent a man out to install a 2nd dish and a newer model receiver at no cost and no commitment to continue with Direct. We didn't like the new receiver, so when I called support they told me to keep it and buy a new one that we liked and send them the bill up to $100. I found one on Ebay that I liked for $20. I sent the receipt for $20 plus the $12 shipping charge to Direct and they credited my account with the full $100 that they had set as the reimbursement limit.

Bottom line, I got 2 new receivers plus a new dish and 100 feet of cable plus installation plus a $68 credit on my account, and all without ever leaving my house. Compared to the poor service and constant hassle I used to get dealing with the cable company when I lived in town, DirectTV is far better. (although it wouldn't take much for it to be far better than that @#%^&* cable company)

49 posted on 01/01/2006 4:11:40 PM PST by epow
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To: Revel
I`ve had DirecTV since 1999 and for the most part am happy with it.Last spring they did pull a few channels out of the basic package and move them to the "premium package".Miffed me a little but they did add RFD which is nice.

Still with everything I probably only watch a dozen of them regularly.

Funny,growing up with 3 channels (2 1/2 really considering the reception on one of them),I would have given about anything for what I have now yet I still don`t watch many more channels than I started with.

50 posted on 01/01/2006 4:13:33 PM PST by carlr
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