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The Prerevolutionary War: Book Review
NY Times ^ | Jan. 8, 2006 | JAY WINIK

Posted on 01/07/2006 12:27:03 PM PST by Pharmboy

In 1754, a senseless massacre began innocently enough. A young George Washington, leading a force of Virginia volunteers and Indians, stumbled into an engagement with a French detachment in a remote Allegheny glen. To this day, the circumstances are cloudy as to who shot first and how the hostilities broke out. What is not in doubt is that Washington bungled badly: he lost control of his men, and before the mayhem ended, 13 Frenchmen were killed, wounded soldiers were brutally scalped and one man was even decapitated.

As is so often the case in history, this one small act, however miscalculated, had large consequences. It incited the French and Indian War (also known as the Seven Years' War). This was a confrontation no one wanted, but what started as a remote skirmish produced a chain of events that culminated in a fierce struggle among the British, the French and dozens of American Indian nations fighting for control of North America. And the conflagration eventually spread to Canada, the Caribbean, India, even the Philippines.

Yet, Fred Anderson writes, for all the conflict's scope and carnage, not to mention its implications, Americans are no more familiar with it than they are with the Peloponnesian War. This is a pity. True, Americans have long had an unquenchable appetite for the Civil War, and more recently for the founding fathers. But however obscure, the inaptly named French and Indian War is itself a drama of considerable significance, one that deserves to be rescued from the graveyard. It was Winston Churchill, after all, who once termed it the "first world war." Anderson, a history professor at the University of Colorado and the author of the splendid "Crucible of War: The Seven Years' War and the Fate of Empire in British North America, 1754-1766,"

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KEYWORDS: americanhistory; frenchandindianwar; generalwashington; georgewashington; revolutionarywar; revwar; sevenyearswar
Someone on the Crown's side fired first, whether a militiaman or Indian. Jumonville's men were surprised.
1 posted on 01/07/2006 12:27:05 PM PST by Pharmboy
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'The War That Made America: A Short History of the French and Indian War,' by Fred Anderson

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2 posted on 01/07/2006 12:29:57 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

Revolution bump.


3 posted on 01/07/2006 12:49:46 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Pharmboy

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4 posted on 01/07/2006 12:50:50 PM PST by Tax-chick (I am just not sure how to get from here to where we want to be.)
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To: Pharmboy
Americans are no more familiar with it than they are with the Peloponnesian War.

Was Washington responsible for the Peloponnesian War, too? No doubt he crossed the Delaware in triremes.

5 posted on 01/07/2006 1:09:29 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: Pharmboy
Don't forget -- Washington had no kids, so he must have been gay as a goose. /sarc

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6 posted on 01/07/2006 4:34:07 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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To: Pharmboy

Pharmboy, I don't post much but, I do want you to know I read and appreciate each item you post.


7 posted on 01/07/2006 5:10:49 PM PST by WHATNEXT? (That's PRESIDENT BUSH (not Mr.)!!)
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To: Pharmboy

I agree with the paragraphs posted! It was that Allengenhy skirmish that Captain Washington spent the whole of his life, stalwart and resolute, to fix. At the time Washington confessed in writing to being THE Assassin who fired the shot which killed the French nobleman and legate. Sort of like the situation of Moses, both Washington and Moses were killers as young men by Necessities' Circumstance, and yet by the dedication, resolve and humility of the remainder of their lifes each came to found a great Nation.


8 posted on 01/07/2006 5:20:25 PM PST by bvw
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9 posted on 01/07/2006 5:23:54 PM PST by Fintan (Why do we drive on a parkway and park in a driveway?)
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Don't forget -- Washington had no kids...

On the contrary, he sired 4 children. Sadly, he and Martha outlived all of them.

10 posted on 01/07/2006 6:08:51 PM PST by pgyanke (The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God.)
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To: Pharmboy

The book is probably very good ,but the reviewer is full of BS, he immediately starts drawing the cloak of concealment over the American Indian,his role in the massacre, and his role as a bloodthirsty nightmare in the conflicts of the time, ands times soon to follow. No white commander whether British, French, Spanish, or American could control them even when under their command, although
Rogers Rangers did finally break the back of the powerful Iroquois.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 6:59:08 PM PST by ansel12
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I own and have read The Crucible of War. It's OK but is rather politically correct, especially in the author's descriptions of native american leaders.
12 posted on 01/07/2006 7:06:19 PM PST by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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I'm glad you posted, since my post seemed negative to wards Indians, I was afraid I would get flamed badly. I would recommend to everyone to study this era, but they better be ready for some very ugly realities to be revealed that will shatter much of what has been taught for the last 40 or so years in both schools and Hollywood.


13 posted on 01/07/2006 7:42:17 PM PST by ansel12
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14 posted on 01/07/2006 9:39:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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To: bvw

My information is a bit different...he was a lt. colonel in the Virginia militia at the time and not a captain. Also, he never said he fired the first shot at Jumonville Glen...since he did not.


15 posted on 01/07/2006 9:55:52 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: WHATNEXT?

Thank you for your kind words of acknowledgement. Much appreciated.


16 posted on 01/07/2006 9:56:42 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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Washington sired no children, SC was correct. He was stepfather to two of Martha's by her marriage to Daniel Parke Custis. Unfortunately, he and Martha outlived them both and mourned their loss greatly.


17 posted on 01/07/2006 10:01:59 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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:') thanks Pharmboy. Plus, I was just makin' an ironic joke. ;')


18 posted on 01/07/2006 11:05:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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Oh...I know--you're fine. It just frosts my behind when people post wrong info about The General as that other guy did.


19 posted on 01/08/2006 3:03:23 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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My apologies, Gentlemen. I didn't mean to spread disinformation. I had just finished reading "The Glorious Cause" by Jeff Shaara yesterday and it had this tidbit in the afterward about President Washington:

He lives out the brief remainder of his life in the soft comforts of his wife, who has endured long years of sacrifice both by the absence of her husband and the death of all four of her children.

I misunderstood at first reading that the children referred to weren't also his. It was such a sad statement that it stuck with me. SunkenCiv's post called it back out. No offense meant... just trying to be helpful... poorly.

Thank you for correcting the record.

20 posted on 01/08/2006 7:13:51 AM PST by pgyanke (The Son of God became a man to enable men to become sons of God.)
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To: Pharmboy

Just to note--I may be mistaken about the rank. Washington however did sign a letter of confession to the killing. He did, iirc, so under a mistaken impression that what he was signing was an admission of a accidental killing, for his interpreter so claimed the French word for "assassin" to mean.


21 posted on 01/08/2006 8:50:10 AM PST by bvw
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To: bvw
He did not admit to personally killing Jumonville (simply because he did not kill him); what he did do was mistakenly sign a paper agreeing that Jumonville was "assassinated." It is said that this occurred because the translation of the document from the French was faulty.
22 posted on 01/08/2006 6:48:06 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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23 posted on 01/08/2006 7:09:30 PM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: pgyanke

No harm, no foul. I think Martha had descendants though... ah, here it is... Mary Anne Randolph Custis Lee (wife of Robert E. Lee) was the grand-daughter of Martha.

Also, years ago (like 35) I recall reading a claim by a Japanese woman that Washington was her ancestor via his affair with a Japanese woman who worked for him.

Probably happened during his attendance at a conference on the planet Mars. ;')

http://www.homeofheroes.com/moh/memory/arlington.html

"George and Martha Washington had no children of their own, but the widowed Martha Dandridge Custis had brought two children to the family when the couple married in 1759.  John Parke and Martha Parke Custis had grown up under the fatherly hand of George Washington.  John named a son in his step father's honor, George Washington Parke Custis.  When John Parke was killed at Yorktown in 1781, George and Martha Washington adopted two of their grandchildren.  It was, therefore, the step-grandson of George Washington who would receive the estate of the Washington/Custis family.  Included in that estate was the 1,100 acres overlooking the Capitol."


24 posted on 01/08/2006 8:39:11 PM PST by SunkenCiv (FReep this URL -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/pledge)
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The source of your misunderstanding is the Shaara quote. He was wrong. Here's what happened:

Martha Dandrige married Daniel Parke Custis and bore him four children, two of which did not survive early childhood (Daniel and Frances died at ages three and four, respectively). John (called "Jacky") and Martha (called "Patsy") were with Martha when she married George in 1759 and were raised by them (Daniel Parke Custis died and left Martha a widow in 1757).

Patsy had epilepsy and died in 1773 as a result of a seizure. Jacky and his wife Eleanor had four surviving children but he unfortunately died of "camp fever" (probably typhus) while an aide to his stepfather, General Washington.

Two of Jacky's children then stayed with their grandparents at Mt Vernon (George Washington Parke Custis and Nelly Custis) and both of them lived long lives.

25 posted on 01/09/2006 4:23:27 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Pharmboy

Very interesting post here Pharmboy. Thanks.


26 posted on 01/09/2006 6:59:24 AM PST by davetex (hippies and rinos stink, no really I'm not joking.)
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To: Pharmboy

Ah. More for my reading list!
Thanks!


27 posted on 01/09/2006 7:03:40 AM PST by confederacy of dunces (Don't forget the cheese!)
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To: SunkenCiv

See my post 25 above. John ("Jacky") was not killed at Yorktown, however; he died of camp fever, probably typhus.


28 posted on 01/09/2006 7:13:51 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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29 posted on 01/09/2006 1:51:05 PM PST by GretchenM (God made you. He will also take you out. Better to go on His terms, that is, through Jesus.)
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Sorry for the late ping....I have been away from my computer for the last couple of weeks.


30 posted on 01/14/2006 7:15:48 AM PST by indcons
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"since my post seemed negative to wards Indians"

The truth is the truth, negative or otherwise.


31 posted on 01/14/2006 7:39:22 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: Pharmboy

I wish the reviewer(s) would at least mention that the 7-Years War was a European conflict, and that the French & Indian Wars were an outgrowth of that European war. The French & Indian Wars alone is not what is meant by the Seven Years War.


32 posted on 01/14/2006 9:03:02 AM PST by Sans-Culotte (Meadows Place, TX-"Tom DeLay Country")
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