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Popular priest tells parish he's gay, but celibate
katc.com ^ | 01/08/06 | AP

Posted on 01/08/2006 5:54:51 PM PST by Ellesu

THIBODAUX, La. (AP) - Deciding he had to practice the honesty he preached, a popular priest has told his family, his bishop and the people in his parish that he is gay.

The Rev. Jim Morrison said he had been working since October on the letter which he sent early this month to 300 members of the congregation at St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic Church and 200 members of the student ministry.

He mailed the letter and handed his bishop a copy on Jan. 2, about a month after the Vatican released a policy statement saying people with "deep-seated" homosexual tendencies should be kept out of the priesthood.

Saturday evening, the pews at St. Thomas Aquinas were full.

As pastor, Morrison told the congregation, "I ask you constantly to trust me. I ask you come to me with your life, all the blessings, all the struggles."

"But it's not a one-way street," he said.

Morrison said he told his parents, four sisters and two brothers before he mailed the letter.

"I wrestled with talking to my parents," he said. But, he said, the family talks were "very positive."

In the letter he said that for years, he had counseled people struggling with their sexual orientation to be honest about it with people they love.

"I have come to realize that while I was encouraging others to be honest, I was not putting these words into practice in my own life," Morrison wrote.

He said he wasn't looking for attention or approval but trying to be more true to himself, God and those he serves.

"I thought it took a lot of courage," Winnie Faucheux of Thibodaux said after the Saturday evening Mass. "I love him. I think he's a wonderful person. I think the community's going to grow from him being honest."

Morrison said he has kept his vows of celibacy and is not in any romantic or sexual relationship. Being celibate and gay is not against Catholic doctrine, so he does not plan to resign, he said.

Nor is he being asked to, said Louis Aguirre, spokesman for the Diocese of Houma-Thibodaux.

"He's not being asked to do anything but to continue his ministry," Aguirre said.

In a written statement Saturday, Bishop Sam G. Jacobs said the Roman Catholic Church makes a clear distinction between homosexual actions and orientation.

The Vatican's statement says homosexual acts are intrinsically immoral, but people don't choose their sexual orientation and should not be discriminated against because of it, the bishop wrote. And, he wrote, people should be judged by their acts.

Morrison, a priest for more than 18 years, has been pastor of St. Thomas Aquinas Catholic Church at Nicholls State University for more than three. Students often drop by to chat, drawn by his warmth and wit.

He has led three other churches in Houma and Chauvin, and has been director of vocations and seminarians for the Diocese of Houma-Thibodaux. He also helped found a school for at-risk Terrebonne youths and creating a benefit race to support that school. He has traveled to Nicaragua to minister, mentored youths hoping to become priests and won awards for his service.

After Hurricane Katrina, Morrison welcomed storm evacuees with pets to the St. Thomas Aquinas Center when some other shelters wouldn't allow animals.

"As Jesus says, one judges a tree by the fruit it bears. A good tree does not bear bad fruit and a bad tree does not bear good fruit," Jacobs wrote. "In my short tenure as bishop of Houma-Thibodaux, I have known Father Jim Morrison to be a compassionate and energetic priest who has provided good pastoral ministry to the people he has served. Unless I discover otherwise, as with all of our priests, I support him in the good that he does for our people."


TOPICS: Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: homosexuality; homosexualpriests; penny4yourthoughts; pleasefathera; priest; thelizardpriest; thibodauxla

1 posted on 01/08/2006 5:54:54 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Ellesu

"C'mon, c'mon, c'mon, c'mon,
Now touch me, babe!..."


2 posted on 01/08/2006 5:57:14 PM PST by golas1964 ("He tasks me... He tasks me, and I shall have him!")
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To: Ellesu

Anyone want to take a guess at the percentage of gay priests?


3 posted on 01/08/2006 5:57:35 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Ellesu
ARgh! Of course he's celibate--he's not married. The word is chaste--they take a vow of chastitiy--when is this going to reach the journalism style handbooks?
4 posted on 01/08/2006 5:57:54 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Ellesu

Why do gays think that we want to hear all about it?


5 posted on 01/08/2006 5:58:03 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: Callahan
Anyone want to take a guess at the percentage of gay priests?

About the same as the general population, or maybe the same as Baptist ministers!!

6 posted on 01/08/2006 5:59:33 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: Ellesu
I generally presume that a priest is celibate. He takes such a vow upon his investiture. Nonetheless, I guess that "celibate" can take a number of meanings.

What is the direction of his counseling would be my next question. Again, I presume he counsels his parishoners with the Church's teaching.

7 posted on 01/08/2006 6:01:21 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: phil1750
About the same as the general population, or maybe the same as Baptist ministers!!

Either you don't know many Catholic priests' or your "GAYDAR" is broke.

8 posted on 01/08/2006 6:02:30 PM PST by joshhiggins
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To: Ellesu

really? I wonder what his boyfriend has to say about it?


9 posted on 01/08/2006 6:02:43 PM PST by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the 'slims have already started. 1900 useless replies and still going!)
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To: Ellesu

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

Being "honest" doesn't require this. The only thing such a confession can accomplish is to further undermine the Church he is supposed to be serving.

Did he give any thought at all to what the children of his parish would make of this? Bad enough to get it in school and on the TV set, without getting it in church too.


10 posted on 01/08/2006 6:03:24 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Callahan
Anyone want to take a guess at the percentage of gay priests?

No, Harry, I do not. I think I'd like to keep my head in the sand on this one, ok?

BTW, wrong context on this - chastity.

LVM

11 posted on 01/08/2006 6:04:06 PM PST by LasVegasMac (The only thing slowing me down is the A**hole in front of me!)
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To: phil1750
About the same as the general population Sure, if you're talking about the general population of Fire Island.
12 posted on 01/08/2006 6:06:56 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Cicero

Too late. The kids would be more surprised if he revealed he was straight.


13 posted on 01/08/2006 6:09:28 PM PST by Callahan
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To: Ellesu
Popular priest tells parish he's gay, but celibate

Jimmuh Carter tells the world he's an adulterer in his heart, but faithful otherwise.

We all are tempted to sin, we also choose to do so.

I may be tempted to steal, but only I choose to steal.

I may have a predisposition to steal, another may have a predisposition to commit adultery or engage in gay behavior; but, I was not made to lie, cheat, steal, or commit sexual sin. I choose to indulge my sin.

14 posted on 01/08/2006 6:12:37 PM PST by mombonn (ˇViva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: Callahan

One of the few things which Freud said that makes sense is that kids go through a latency stage, when they don't normally think about sex. It's just not a concern to them. We are doing them no favors by saturating the air with sex, sex, sex all the time. Now you can't even go to Mass and listen to a sermon without being exposed to some guy coming out of the closet.

It's just not part of his job description to do something like this. His bishop should ship him off to Siberia.


15 posted on 01/08/2006 6:16:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SteveMcKing
…a popular priest has told his family, his bishop and the people in his parish that he is gay...

In a written statement Saturday, Bishop Sam G. Jacobs said the Roman Catholic Church makes a clear distinction between homosexual actions and orientation.

As Jesus says, one judges a tree by the fruit it bears.

One cannot, perhaps, control the thoughts that enter the mind unbidden. However, one can certainly control those thoughts “invited” to stay. Most definitely, one can control the thoughts on which one chooses to act.

Why would anyone, especially a priest, want others to know what thoughts, or even the kind of thoughts, that might enter his mind unbidden? If these thoughts generate no action, then they are no business, or even meaning, to anyone else in the normal course of events.

There is a strong implication of a not-so-hidden agenda in this priest’s action. I suspect "fruits" are to follow.
16 posted on 01/08/2006 6:16:46 PM PST by Lucky Dog
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To: Cicero

"Being "honest" doesn't require this. The only thing such a confession can accomplish is to further undermine the Church he is supposed to be serving.

Did he give any thought at all to what the children of his parish would make of this? Bad enough to get it in school and on the TV set, without getting it in church too"

The fact that he would discuss this in front of children, without warning, if he did so, validates your post, and tells me he is part of the "homo promo" agenda.


17 posted on 01/08/2006 6:17:29 PM PST by del4hope (Snowflake....with school excuse)
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To: mombonn

If we are tempted to steal and don't, does that make one a thief?

If we are tempted to lie and don't, does that make one a lier?

If we are tempted to cheat on our spouse and don't, does that make one an adulterer?

What then makes this "celibate" priest gay?????


18 posted on 01/08/2006 6:20:33 PM PST by del4hope (Snowflake....with school excuse)
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To: Lucky Dog

Very well put.


19 posted on 01/08/2006 6:22:01 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: Mamzelle
Of course he's celibate--he's not married. The word is chaste--they take a vow of chastitiy--when is this going to reach the journalism style handbooks?

Diocesan priests make a promise of celibacy, religious order priests make a vow of chastity. The two terms are synonyms, particularly with regard to the Priesthood. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is either not very bright or a liar.

Main Entry: cel·i·ba·cy
Pronunciation: 'se-l&-b&-sE
Function: noun
1 : the state of not being married
2 a : abstention from sexual intercourse b : abstention by vow from marriage

Main Entry: chas·ti·ty
Pronunciation: 'chas-t&-tE
Function: noun
1 : the quality or state of being chaste : as a : abstention from unlawful sexual intercourse b : abstention from all sexual intercourse c : purity in conduct and intention d : restraint and simplicity in design or expression
2 : personal integrity

20 posted on 01/08/2006 6:23:51 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: jwfiv

Jim Morrisson/Back Door Man ping.


21 posted on 01/08/2006 6:24:06 PM PST by Serb5150 (Mir Boziji – Hristos se Rodi!)
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To: Callahan

"Too late. The kids would be more surprised if he revealed he was straight."

LOL!



22 posted on 01/08/2006 6:25:58 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Ellesu

I'm not a Catholic but it seems to me that his public confession about his homosexuality is also a public statement that he supports present church doctrine.

I you are inclined towards homosexuality then you should not be ordained.

He's already ordained but celibate and wishes to continue in the priesthood.

His public confession means he agrees to follow church teaching.

Celibacy trumps sexual orientation, Hetero or Homo.

I think his honesty and sincerity should count for something.


23 posted on 01/08/2006 6:33:38 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Cicero
Who cares. Do straight priests announce that they are hetero. Why do they have to announce it.
24 posted on 01/08/2006 6:37:28 PM PST by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Ellesu
Yeah...and I'm a vegetarian until I eat some meat.

...ok...maybe I coulda used a better analogy...oops!, I did it again.

25 posted on 01/08/2006 6:58:04 PM PST by Khurkris ("Hell, I was there"...Elmer Keith.)
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To: Ellesu

That's the question. This guy probably has a million duties and responsibilities around the parish, and all he can think of is coming out of the closet? Put a sock in it and get on with the job.


26 posted on 01/08/2006 6:58:37 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ellesu

Thanks - will ping the list later tonight or tomorrow.


27 posted on 01/08/2006 8:47:46 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: phil1750
From my estimates, about 33% (at least). Hetero priests have told me that many seminaries remain dominated by the lavendar mafia.

Alot of the priests that I have dealt with make Liberace look macho.

28 posted on 01/08/2006 8:49:09 PM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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To: beaver fever

There have been numerous discussions and articles about this. Homosexual priests have a way of saying "I'm celibate" and actually MEANING that "I'm not married". They don't necessarily mean "I am CHASTE" (ie no sex).

It's called "parsing" words.


29 posted on 01/08/2006 8:52:30 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Well I'd like to think the guy's sincere but I'm an optimist.


30 posted on 01/08/2006 8:54:46 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: golas1964

Father Mo-jo RISIN'...


31 posted on 01/08/2006 9:01:22 PM PST by raccoonradio
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To: beaver fever

If a person has no intention of ever acting on base impulses, s/he will not identify with said impulses. Desires that are ignored gradually go away. By focusing on them, they increase and get stronger.

Furthermore, the position of the Catholic Church is that no one who has same sex attraction or identifies as "gay", or who supports the gay agenda, should be a priest.


32 posted on 01/08/2006 9:12:38 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
I agree with you but if a priest is gay and celibate and has been a good priest then he should be allowed to continue his vocation.

This priest is admitting that he is a sinner and celibacy is his way of avoiding the commission of sin.

By going public he has reaffirmed his vows.

Priest pedophiles were in the closet and never confessed in public or private.

This priest is sincere IMHO
33 posted on 01/08/2006 9:23:53 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: del4hope
What then makes this "celibate" priest gay?????

His sexual orientation. Priests are human with lusts just like anyone else. The only caveat is that they're not supposed to act on their carnal desires. What makes this priest gay is that when he goes to confession, he confesses to carnal thoughts and fantasies involving men, instead of women. Even though he's not acting on the desire, his desire is for men, not women.

34 posted on 01/08/2006 9:51:41 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Mamzelle

since we're picking the nit, most dictionaries list at least two meanings for celibate: 1. unmarried 2. abstaining from sex.


35 posted on 01/08/2006 9:55:21 PM PST by bigsigh
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To: Ellesu

What he meant to say was, "when I see a hot guy in the congregation I get all tingly between my legs and I want to touch his firm loins and feel his hot flesh against mine." If we are going to celebrate honesty, let's get really honest.


36 posted on 01/08/2006 9:57:00 PM PST by Casloy
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To: Mamzelle
Sorry, but you're incorrect. Nuns take vows of chastity. Priests take vows of celibacy. At one time there was a distinction: Nuns were supposed to be pure and virginal, hence chaste, while priests just had to not be married or to marry after taking their vows. Chastity only came about incidently as sex outside the confines of marriage was a sin.
37 posted on 01/08/2006 9:57:17 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: little jeremiah
Desires that are ignored gradually go away.

That my friend is a the granddaddy of all lies. It's utter and total BS. I won't name my temptations, but they haven't diminished over the years despite my refusal to indulge. To this day some of my lusts are managed only through the same force of will that I put in place years ago to keep them in check. Luckily for me, in my case they're all heterosexual in nature, but the principle remains the same.

38 posted on 01/08/2006 10:00:36 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: Ellesu

Since he declares himself to be gay, he might also follow the wise policies of many other pastor-teachers who adapt a policy to never place themselves in a compromising position with women, i.e. they only counsel in groups and open door sessions with witnesses present with no doubt as to their credibility.

Of course, since he cannot communicate with either men or women in private now, he might either consider complete isolation or only public servitude.

One further point. If he is indeed born again, then he has given up the old man, the old sin nature, and if he is genetically predisposed to 'gayness', he has given that up long before entering seminary, and has now advanced to the point of putting on the mind of Christ rather than ever entertaining 'gay thoughts'. Of course, if this has not yet happened, the issue isn't a gay predisposition, but rather he needs to conitnue his walk in faith and mature to the point of rejecting any such temptation in spiritual self-esteem.


39 posted on 01/08/2006 10:02:18 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Serb5150

Ouch ... this guy's got no mojo ... wrong Morrison ... can't fool me.


40 posted on 01/09/2006 12:17:55 AM PST by jwfiv
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To: beaver fever

I am a Catholic and have been quite angry about the sexual perversion among our priests. That being said, I agree with you. As long as he's celibate or chaste (depending on which side of the semantic argument one goes with), I have no problem with his inclinations.


41 posted on 01/09/2006 7:18:35 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Melas

There are vows of celibacy and vows of chastity--celibacy, at least until recently, denoted a promise not to marry. Samson took such a vow, but Delilah was still in the picture. The media uses celibacy as a synonym for chastity--the meaning may have changed (dictionaries are much more likely to include neologisms and newly-coined meanings than thirty years ago)--I still don't accept that a vow of celibacy is necessarily also a vow of chastity.


42 posted on 01/09/2006 9:04:07 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
I still don't accept that a vow of celibacy is necessarily also a vow of chastity.

It's irrelevant what you accept. The arbiter is Canon Law and in that there is no difference between a promise of celibacy or vow of chastity for those receiving Holy Orders in the Latin Rite.

43 posted on 01/09/2006 1:00:10 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: A.A. Cunningham
It's relevant to someone--maybe even someone who engages in politeness. The definitions are hardly beyond discussion, and we can agree to disagree and you can be disagreeable.

If those wanting to be specific about what a priest promises, and what he does not promise--it would be wise to use language that carries no nuance

44 posted on 01/09/2006 1:26:39 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: beaver fever

The problem is he claimed to be gay, not just homosexual. Big difference.


45 posted on 01/09/2006 1:30:29 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Ellesu

celibate Queer - Oxymoron


46 posted on 01/09/2006 1:31:25 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (If Terrorists could vote, John Kerry would be President today.)
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