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Former ETSU cheerleader says she was kicked off squad for being Hooters Girl
Kingsport Times-News ^ | February 1, 2006 | Sam Watson

Posted on 02/01/2006 3:43:36 AM PST by don-o

JOHNSON CITY - A former East Tennessee State University cheerleader contends that she was dismissed from the squad because of her job at a restaurant known for tight-fitting, scanty uniforms.

"I'm 18. I should be able to work where I choose," ETSU freshman Kimberly Sams said of her job at Johnson City's Hooters Restaurant. "Maybe if it was a strip club or something like that, it would be different. If the basketball team can come in here and eat, then I should be able to work (at Hooters)."

Sams, a Carter County resident who graduated with honors from Unaka High School last May, joined the ETSU squad at the start of the fall semester and started working at Hooters in November.

She cheered until about three weeks ago, when squad coach Tammy Bartow called her into the locker room after a basketball game and dismissed her.

Sams said Bartow, wife of head men's basketball coach Murry Bartow, made it clear that her off-campus job was the reason - a "Hooters Girl" was not in keeping with the ETSU squad's image.

"She (Bartow) didn't call me before the game," Sams said. "I had no warning that I was going to be kicked off."

Citing federal laws regarding students' privacy, ETSU Athletic Director Dave Mullins declined to comment on the specifics of Sams' dismissal, including whether she was dismissed because of her job, other than to say she violated athletic department policies and agreements between coach and student.

Mullins said department administrators reviewed Bartow's action, departmental policy and squad agreements before upholding the decision.

ETSU asks all student-athletes, including cheerleaders, to sign copies of the department's policy on ethical conduct and sportsmanship. Students must sign a compliance statement regarding such issues as drug use, class attendance and public criticism.

The statement specifies that students will "represent self, family and East Tennessee State University in attitude and conduct that is a credit to each."

Mullins said members of each team also are expected to adhere to policies set by the coach. Bartow's policy includes statements regarding expected behavior for cheerleaders.

"Behavior by a squad member that brings unwanted, unfair, negative attention to the squad can and will result in the member being removed from the squad," the policy reads. "The image and reputation of the squad members as a whole are the utmost importance."

Asked whether the policies addressed what kinds of jobs students could hold or places they could frequent, Mullins said they did not.

"I don't think any of our policies are going to specify certain individuals or companies or institutions," he said.

Sams said ETSU never informed her of any restrictions about places of employment, and she had no reservations about accepting a position waiting tables at Hooters when a classmate suggested that she apply.

"I used to come here all the time on Tuesday nights for karaoke and me and my friends would just come in and hang out," Sams said. "We have little boys have their birthday parties at Hooters. It's a very fun and relaxed environment.

"It's so much fun that it keeps my spirits up at school. I'm not stressed. I'm not working too hard. A Hooters Girl is like an all-American cheerleader."

Sams acknowledged that her Hooters uniform - orange shorts and a white T-shirt containing the restaurant's logo - is revealing.

"But so is my cheerleading skirt. I feel more embarrassed to wear my skirt sometimes at the games than I do walking around in my uniform," she said. "We wear pantyhose (at Hooters). We don't underneath my cheerleading skirt."

Mike McNeil, vice president of marketing for the Atlanta-based restaurant chain, said he had not heard about Sams' dismissal from the ETSU squad prior to a reporter's inquiry, but it sounded as if Sams was defending her position on her own.

"We support the employee and the statements she's making," McNeil said. "I think the best thing they (ETSU) can do is reinstate her to the cheerleading team ... otherwise, it's a black eye."

Sams said although she initially did well in her classes at ETSU, her grades went south over the course of the semester and she wound up failing some classes. Cheerleaders are required to maintain at least a 2.0 grade-point average. Sams said freshmen, however, were not held to that standard, and her grades were not cited in her dismissal.

Sams said she had hoped to bring up her grades this semester, but her academic status was in limbo because of a dispute regarding the return of her uniforms and money owed her for warm-up gear.


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To: HairOfTheDog

Why, yes I do!

Must be my big..........





.........ego!


251 posted on 02/01/2006 11:18:36 AM PST by airborne
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To: tuffydoodle

I think I'll make it somehow.

Think I'll use my $25 gift certificate I got from the Hooters in Tacoma.


252 posted on 02/01/2006 11:21:28 AM PST by airborne
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To: airborne

You still weren't smilin' with the cheerleaders... Did your team lose or was it more bad wings? :~D


253 posted on 02/01/2006 11:21:59 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: airborne

You shouldn't have to use the gift certificate, just show them your big.......ego.


254 posted on 02/01/2006 11:22:29 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

A suit...

Please god....


255 posted on 02/01/2006 11:23:49 AM PST by najida (Some days I meltdown faster than chocolate.)
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To: airborne

Hey - I've got a gift cert. for Hooters in Tacoma too... a soldier gave it to me... Someone had given it to him and didn't have time to use it before going home on the way back from Iraq...

I'd give it to ya, but you hate the wings there :~D


256 posted on 02/01/2006 11:24:06 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

See the medal around my neck?

It was a silver.

I missed out on the gold in archery at the National Veterans Wheelchair Games in Long Beach.

Not a happy camper.


257 posted on 02/01/2006 11:24:55 AM PST by airborne
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
My Favorite Golf Photo:


258 posted on 02/01/2006 11:25:38 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: All

And for those who don't know....

I hate Hooters...
It's NOT a family restaurant...
Like someone said, its a sneaky T&A bar that gets away with it by claiming to be 'family'....

The food is horrendous and the girls are skanks for working there.


259 posted on 02/01/2006 11:27:25 AM PST by najida (Some days I meltdown faster than chocolate.)
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To: tuffydoodle
They work there to make money. It's not a place for them to flaunt their beautiful bodies. That's just a fringe benefit for the paying customers!

Besides, I don't mind paying for the food, just like any other eating establishment

The pretty women with pleasant attitudes is definitely an attraction, though.

260 posted on 02/01/2006 11:29:30 AM PST by airborne
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To: najida

"The food is horrendous and the girls are skanks for working there."

Don't hold back, tell us how you really feel!


261 posted on 02/01/2006 11:30:16 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: airborne

So sorry... but a silver ain't bad at all :~D


262 posted on 02/01/2006 11:30:23 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Blueflag
Hooters is not a lascivious skin joint.

It ain't a den of iniquity, but come now, there's no reason at all to go into a Hooter's other than to enjoy glimpes of/flirting with scantily-clad waitresses. You can get better wings at a supermarket, and Sully's Bar and Tap across the street pours a better beer . . . it just doesn't have the eye candy.

I'm no prude at all, as my FR posts suggest. But whenever I see a mom & pop family with kids in tow going into a Hooter's, I say to myself "looks like dad chose the restaurant tonight."

263 posted on 02/01/2006 11:30:38 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: HairOfTheDog

I know. It's that darned ego thingy again! ;^)


264 posted on 02/01/2006 11:31:21 AM PST by airborne
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To: Dashing Dasher

Don't post that image here again.


265 posted on 02/01/2006 11:33:05 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: tuffydoodle

The effin' double standard just gets annoying.

Hooters is family,
but you don't dare breastfeed there.

You can show nekkid pictures of women,
and you're just having fun....

Show a hunky guy in jeans and you get cat called down
with "He's GAY!"

It's old,
Very old,
I'm older and effin' tired.
Damn, who needs time travel.


266 posted on 02/01/2006 11:33:44 AM PST by najida (Some days I meltdown faster than chocolate.)
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To: tuffydoodle
I'm waiting for a restaurant where men where tight "wife-beaters" and skin tight short shorts. Wonder what they would name it? "Boa Constrictors"? "Big Snake"? "Wonder Worms"? "Willies"? "Big Dong"?

That's a hell of a business idea. Would kielbasa, polish sausage, bratworst, etc., be on the menu?

267 posted on 02/01/2006 11:38:03 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: najida; tuffydoodle; HairOfTheDog; All

Operation Calendar Drop Sending Hooters Cheer to the Troops for the Holidays

Over 20,000 Hooters Calendars were signed by Hooters customers, sealed by the managers and delivered to service personnel overseas during the Holidays. During the month of December, Operation Calendar Drop gave customers a chance to send a message of appreciation and a Hooters Calendar to an unknown man or woman of the armed forces that would be spending their holiday in less than desirable conditions.

"The Marines at Camp Taqaddum, Iraq were truly happy to receive the calendars that Hooters sent," stated USMC Major Bob Nash. "It was motivating to see hundreds of your patrons and staff generously reach out, wish the Marines well during the holidays, and let us know that folks all across the USA are praying for our safe return home; and the calendars are outstanding!"

Every Hooters location was designated a specific military base overseas to ship these boxes to, in an effort to boost morale and make the holidays as cheerful as possible while the troops were away from their friends and families in the United States. This is the second year Hooters has run this promotion and it continues to gain support

"The reception from the military and the customers during this promotion has been incredible," stated Alexis Aleshire, marketing assistant for Hooters of America. "I have received many letters from various bases thanking the stores and customers for their time and thoughts during the holidays."

http://www.hooters.com/news_and_events/news/2006/2006-01-09_Calendar_Drop.asp


268 posted on 02/01/2006 11:40:21 AM PST by airborne
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

No, just vienna sausages.


269 posted on 02/01/2006 11:40:49 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Lead Moderator

Yes, Sir/Ma'am.


270 posted on 02/01/2006 11:42:58 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (I'm so fascinating - I have my own group of stalkers hanging on my every word! Jealous?)
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To: airborne

Hey, if I was away in Iraq, fighting a war during Christmas, the one thing I would wish for is a Hooter's calendar! To heck with food and toiletries, a calendar is all I need.


271 posted on 02/01/2006 11:45:20 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle
No, just vienna sausages.

Not bad---that way, a guy could eat there without any "envy" issues.

272 posted on 02/01/2006 11:45:48 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: tuffydoodle
"The Marines at Camp Taqaddum, Iraq were truly happy to receive the calendars that Hooters sent," stated USMC Major Bob Nash.

The Marine Corps Major agrees with you.

273 posted on 02/01/2006 11:49:53 AM PST by airborne
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To: tuffydoodle
I'm waiting for a restaurant where men where tight "wife-beaters" and skin tight short shorts. Wonder what they would name it? "Boa Constrictors"? "Big Snake"? "Wonder Worms"? "Willies"? "Big Dong"?

Done and done! Head up to Ocean City, MD!

274 posted on 02/01/2006 11:51:35 AM PST by TheBigB (Chuck Norris wears George W. Bush pajamas.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

And when they go into "Lettuce Surprise You" do you equally surmise Mom picked the joint?

;-p



275 posted on 02/01/2006 11:52:46 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: All
I declare the thread now completely and utterly trashed.

There are issues of individual rights and governmental intrusion - but, I guess wallowing in the gutter is easier to deal with.

276 posted on 02/01/2006 11:54:30 AM PST by don-o
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To: tuffydoodle


Hooters Donates $225,000 to the American Red Cross and Katrina Relief Fund

After Hurricane Katrina plowed through the Gulf Coast in September, Hooters reacted in various ways to raise money for the American Red Cross and Katrina Relief Fund. Between an auction of a foursome with John Daly, local fundraising events and the sales of Hooters Hope Cards in Hooters locations across the US, Hooters raised a total of $225,000 for the effort.


277 posted on 02/01/2006 11:55:08 AM PST by airborne
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To: airborne

And I'm sure he meant every word of it.


278 posted on 02/01/2006 11:55:51 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Thanks.


279 posted on 02/01/2006 11:57:31 AM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: don-o; All
And I in turn declare this thread

Cool-amundo!

280 posted on 02/01/2006 11:58:45 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: airborne

My goodness you are in love with Hooters. I can tell by all the pictures you posted that the only reason you go there is because of their charitable nature.


281 posted on 02/01/2006 11:59:28 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle
It's Jpeg Girlfriend Syndrome.
282 posted on 02/01/2006 12:06:03 PM PST by Dashing Dasher (Imagination without skill gives us modern art. -- Stoddard)
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To: don-o

What did you expect?:^) Hooters is a target for some.

IMO, the young woman has a legitimate gripe. There may be more to the basketball coach, cheerleader coach and cheerleader/Hooters girl triangle than we know.

I wouldn't be surpised if there isn't a little jealosy/envy at play.


283 posted on 02/01/2006 12:06:13 PM PST by airborne
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To: don-o

If it's a double standard they might want to review policies but cheer leading is a privelege not a right. I kind of look at it as a club. If there were rules and she agreed to them she should have tried to get changes but not have broken them.


284 posted on 02/01/2006 12:08:30 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: tuffydoodle; airborne

Hey tuffy... guys like cute chicks... it was a nice gesture to send the calendars.

I really don't get the resentment that a bar with cute waitresses in tank tops is something that deserves your utter contempt even when they do something good... You aren't this much of a prude... what's up with you and Hooters?


285 posted on 02/01/2006 12:08:32 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Blueflag
And when they go into "Lettuce Surprise You" do you equally surmise Mom picked the joint?

Never heard of it. Is there really such a joint? If so, what do they serve---salad? Sounds like a hippy joint.

286 posted on 02/01/2006 12:08:36 PM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: tuffydoodle

A suit...hands down winner. There's nothing I love more than to see a man in a well put together suit.


287 posted on 02/01/2006 12:11:09 PM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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To: tuffydoodle
I do agree with you, for the most part women don't seem attracted to men's bodies. Back in the day, before kids and all, I use to be a pretty decent looking fellow. But wearing tight clothing would send the women away laughing.

I just don't understand it. My wife and I have talked about it on a few occasions over the years. It baffles me. If a woman is 'heterosexual', wouldn't she be attracted to the male body? This is a great mystery to me.

I think women's feelings on the subject are kinda sad, really. Most men would *love* to be a 'sex object' to women. We'd *love* to be ogled by women. Clearly women love the attention, etc, when they want it. But only when they want it, like a celeberity who gets angry at Paparrazzi.

Women are so use to the attention, and they take it for granted. They can't imagine what it's like for men.

288 posted on 02/01/2006 12:15:13 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: tuffydoodle

Well between those choices I have to go with suit. What I really think is attractive though are jeans and a jacket.


289 posted on 02/01/2006 12:16:49 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: cyborg
A suit...hands down winner.

My wife hates it when I make this suggestion, but that sure sounds like it's the clothes more than the man that you find attractive!

290 posted on 02/01/2006 12:17:35 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: najida
hate Hooters... It's NOT a family restaurant... Like someone said, its a sneaky T&A bar that gets away with it by claiming to be 'family'.... The food is horrendous and the girls are skanks for working there.

Ditto. Excellent way of summarizing what Hooters is all about.

291 posted on 02/01/2006 12:23:52 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (I sometimes only vote for Republicans because they are not Democrats...by Thomas Sowell)
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To: fqued

Sorry, but *you* need to cut the caffiene intake.


292 posted on 02/01/2006 12:24:54 PM PST by Appalled but Not Surprised
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To: tuffydoodle

Suits over a speedo any day.


293 posted on 02/01/2006 12:33:26 PM PST by RebaJ
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To: tuffydoodle

If women saw men as pieces of meat the way men view women, there would be an outcry, from men, of biblical proportion.

Once, 17 years ago, a car full of women drove by me and one of occupants yelled a comment that objectified me. (I ran after the car yelling "Yes!"). That memory is my "happy place," where I go if I am feeling down in the dumps. Always works.


294 posted on 02/01/2006 12:41:54 PM PST by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Dominic Harr
My wife hates it when I make this suggestion, but that sure sounds like it's the clothes more than the man that you find attractive!

It's what the expensive suit implies about the man's character, taste, and high social status that women find attractive.

295 posted on 02/01/2006 12:45:10 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
It's what the expensive suit implies about the man's character, taste, and high social status that women find attractive.

There is a little truth in that, i think, but it's not the main point, according to my wife.

I think women just like clothes. Nice, fancy clothes. On other women, on men, on kids, whatever.

The main, sad point tho, is most women are *not* really attracted to the male himself, to the male body.

And i find this very, very odd indeed.

296 posted on 02/01/2006 12:50:05 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Maximus of Texas
You know, if we want we could boycott Hooters and watch the summer Olympics instead.

I hear ya!


297 posted on 02/01/2006 12:51:45 PM PST by The SISU kid (I have seen the future (but I signed a nondisclosure))
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To: Airborne1986
That memory is my "happy place," where I go if I am feeling down in the dumps. Always works.

:-D

I know the feeling.

But I do think you're wrong -- for some odd reason that even women themselves don't understand, women pretty much aren't attracted to men themselves. Women are attracted to how the man relates to her, to how he dresses, etc. But not to the actual physical body of the man.

Which makes *no* sense to me, if they're heterosexual. But apparently that's the way it is.

Altho, as I understand it, that is changing some. Younger women seem to be somewhat more interested in the male physique. But previous generations of women just on the whole are not.

298 posted on 02/01/2006 12:53:03 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: Dominic Harr
My wife hates it when I make this suggestion, but that sure sounds like it's the clothes more than the man that you find attractive!

It's not that simple. It's the image, the romance of what the clothes say about him we're attracted to, perhaps... In clothes, he's an image that evokes some emotional response. In clothes, men are cowboys, or construction workers, or James Bond, or soldiers, or our guy in jeans, or dressed to go someplace nice, if suits are unusual for him.... walking around nekkid, guys are simian and uncivilized, and for all we know, might be about to scratch themselves ;~D

You should have learned by now that women are much more complicated than a simple visual reaction. Women don't want to see male nakedness unless she's about to have sex with him... and even then, it's better if he doesn't just walk in like that. :~D

299 posted on 02/01/2006 12:55:57 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: The SISU kid
The SISU kid (I have seen the future (but I signed a nondisclosure))

Whoa...you really HAVE seen the future! ;o)

300 posted on 02/01/2006 12:59:52 PM PST by BureaucratusMaximus (Mortify your imagination when it saddens you with the prospect of a dreary future.)
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