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Game's third team upstaged Steelers, Hawks
ESPN ^ | 2/6/06 | Michael Smith

Posted on 02/06/2006 8:53:10 AM PST by highlander_UW

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To: beyond the sea

Yep...I was born and raised in Western PA ('Pennsyltucky') and it remains my family's center of gravity...I don't consider myself so much a football fan as I do a Steeler's fan. When the Steeler's are out of it, football season's over for me until the following year (same thing with the Pirates). It's great to see Bettis finally get his; what a class act he has been throughout his career.


241 posted on 02/06/2006 2:52:40 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum.)
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To: Hatteras

I meant you cannot BLOCK below the knee. There was a blocker H went through BEFORE he made his tackle.

You can't do that.


242 posted on 02/06/2006 3:00:44 PM PST by joyspring777
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To: highlander_UW

I did not videotape the game.

A QB will usually go down with his back, helmet or shoulders to avoid the lower arm contact.

H went down like that, I believe, in front of the blocker to get through to the ball carrier.

You CAN'T DO THAT! Too many injuries come out of that kind of busting through a blocker.

Rules are to protect players from injuries. H would not have been injured, but the blocker certainly can be because he is NOT EXPECTING that.


243 posted on 02/06/2006 3:04:17 PM PST by joyspring777
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To: discostu

Ditto to Ditto. I have said this several times earlier today.


244 posted on 02/06/2006 3:05:36 PM PST by joyspring777
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To: highlander_UW

Should not be. Outside of their division, they should have the hardest schedule in the NFC.


245 posted on 02/06/2006 3:06:31 PM PST by joyspring777
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To: beyond the sea
You may well be right that only the "informed" minority gets the fact that the officiating was good during XL.

The perception of the majority seems to be that it was not good. If the NFL wants to maintain credibility, that should concern them.

In the confines of a game, the calls are what they are, and the Seahawks players and coaches need only look in the mirror to see why they lost. They should then look at the Steelers to see the other part of the equation.

Bad calls are going to happen, it is part of the game. Indeed, it is interesting to ponder the reaction of Seattle fans had the key Pittsburgh plays been called back by penalty. I think the complaining would be as loud coming from Pittsburgh fans, and the Seattle fans would by and large remain smugly silent.

In the broader perspective of the sport, it is bad news when the majority of viewers perceive the officiating as poor or biased. A lot of judgment calls, like holding and interference, could be called on almost every play. It is up to the officials to judge when it is appropriate to throw the flag, and whether by good judgment, choice or chance those flags came out at critical moments, mostly against Seattle. That may well have been justified. A lot of folks seem to think that wasn't the case.

Unless the NFL is going to administer a test to see how informed a fan is before they take his or her money, it would behoove them to present a product that makes sense and seems fair even to the casual fan.
246 posted on 02/06/2006 5:20:20 PM PST by M1911A1
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To: beyond the sea
Just as most American citizens are relatively ignorant of what is really happening in the political world, most viewers of the Super Bowl are relatively ignorant about what is really happening on the field. The "informed" ones (as you sarcastically write) are not just in Pittsburgh, however some of us do feel a greater need to set you and the rest of the uninformed straight.

For a team that was 7-5 in November and only the sixth-best in the AFC, you boys sure fancy yourselves.

Part of the vilification you see against your team is due to the boorishness of the Steeler representatives on FR.

Just thought you ought to know that.

247 posted on 02/06/2006 5:27:49 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: Supernatural
Some of them are baseball and hockey fans. We have a lot of chances to piss on them.

Yeah, like when the Islanders made a fool of the Penguins goaltender in a shootout on Saturday. By my reading, the Penguins are 12-32, with the lowest number of victories in the entire NHL.

You ain't gonna piss on ANYBODY in hockey this year.

248 posted on 02/06/2006 5:33:37 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: sinkspur

Well, there is basketball and baseball. Pittsburgh doesn't have to win or lose anything to piss on someone else's team who wins or loses. Though I made that clear.

Pissing on others teams and others fans is a double-edged sword. Cuts both ways. Get it now? Steelers and their fans have been pissed on constantly since the Super Bowl started and it hasn't ended yet.


249 posted on 02/06/2006 5:37:55 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Supernatural
Steelers and their fans have been pissed on constantly since the Super Bowl started and it hasn't ended yet.

Could some of that have to do with the Steeler fans?

You boys ought to be happy, declare victory, and be magnanimous, instead of acting like this is the first year of a dynasty or something. It's not.

I'm a Cowboy fan, and if anybody been's pissed on, it's us. Lots of Dallas-haters out there, though the Cowboys stuff still outsells that of any other NFL team.

The best thing to do is be realistic. You won a close game, the big calls went against Seattle, and both teams played poorly. THAT is what happened yesterday.

250 posted on 02/06/2006 5:51:56 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: sinkspur; beyond the sea

It would appear to have to do with the fans from the other side. Or are you too blind to notice?

I think you would defend your team if so many derogatory remarks were made against it. Why shouldn't I defend my team, and why should other Steeler fans not defend their team? Steeler fans are loyal and many. They do not call us the "Steeler Nation" for nothing.

Get a clue. If you can't find one, try to buy one.


251 posted on 02/06/2006 6:04:37 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Supernatural
I think you would defend your team if so many derogatory remarks were made against it.

You won the Super Bowl. Why do you have to "defend" anything?

252 posted on 02/06/2006 6:12:13 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: sinkspur

Too blind to notice why? Or just pretending not to know? I think it is the latter.


253 posted on 02/06/2006 6:13:24 PM PST by Supernatural (All the truth in the world adds up to one big lie! bob dylan)
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To: Supernatural

OK. Keep getting beat up, if that's your choice.


254 posted on 02/06/2006 6:16:22 PM PST by sinkspur (Trust, but vilify.)
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To: joyspring777
I did not videotape the game.

I've since seen it played on the local news, and he didn't go through a blocker to get to the tackle, so it was a bogus call. The guy that jumped over him was actually BEHIND the ball carrier.

255 posted on 02/06/2006 7:37:22 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: joyspring777
Should not be. Outside of their division, they should have the hardest schedule in the NFC.

Based on this years record (which is not entirely indicative of next year's abilities), I believe the ranking was 29th most difficult for the Seahawks. They play the NFC North, which includes teams such as Detroit. Of course it doesn't matter, you have to play whoever is on your schedule...not an option to change it.

256 posted on 02/06/2006 7:39:23 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

257 posted on 02/06/2006 7:39:43 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski

whatever.


258 posted on 02/06/2006 7:41:59 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: M1911A1
The perception of the majority seems to be that it was not good. If the NFL wants to maintain credibility, that should concern them --------- agreed.

Indeed, it is interesting to ponder the reaction of Seattle fans had the key Pittsburgh plays been called back by penalty. --------- There were a few of them, one being the real fumble by Stevens that was negated by the call.

In the broader perspective of the sport, it is bad news when the majority of viewers perceive the officiating as poor or biased. ---------- it is a problem if the fans are not wise to the rules.

A lot of judgment calls, like holding and interference, could be called on almost every play. ----------- right.

Unless the NFL is going to administer a test to see how informed a fan is before they take his or her money, it would behoove them to present a product that makes sense and seems fair even to the casual fan. --------- maybe they should. But I don't know how you do it unless the rules are rewritten. It's a very tough game to officiate.

259 posted on 02/06/2006 8:29:48 PM PST by beyond the sea (Cal Thomas: If only Robert Bork had cried ...................)
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To: joyspring777

It's not a whine. The officials had a bad day.

Which normally wouldn't bother me, except that it was the Super Bowl. I expect better officiating in that setting, regardless of how bad both teams were performing.


260 posted on 02/07/2006 5:46:37 AM PST by Senator Goldwater
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