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Roethlisberger admits: 'I don't think I got in'
FOXSports ^ | 2/7/06

Posted on 02/07/2006 4:59:52 PM PST by B Knotts

Before David Letterman got to shave Ben Roethlisberger's beard Monday night, he got the Steelers' Super Bowl-winning quarterback to admit a little something that might rankle Seahawks fans even more.

Roethlisberger told Letterman that he didn't think he scored on a controversial play in the second quarter that put the Steelers ahead for good 7-3. Roethlisberger dove toward the end zone but didn't appear to get the ball to touch the goal line. But officials on the field signaled touchdown.

"I told Coach, 'I don't think I got in,'"

Roethlisberger told Letterman. "But we were getting ready to go for it on fourth down anyway, and I would have run it again. So we would have found a way to get in."

The play infuriated Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren and has provided Seattle fans plenty of fodder for their fury over the game's questionable calls. Referee Bill Leavy upheld the call after a replay review, and Holmgren then upbraided Leavy on his way off the field at halftime.

Holmgren walked over to Leavy, a fifth-year referee calling his first Super Bowl, and could be seen angrily telling him, "It wasn't even close."

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TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: officiating; refs; roethlisberger; seahawks; sourgrapes; steelers; superbowl; td; whineandcheese
From the horse's mouth...
1 posted on 02/07/2006 4:59:55 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
Superbowl XL *
2 posted on 02/07/2006 5:01:56 PM PST by bikepacker67
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To: B Knotts

Only stating the obvious.


3 posted on 02/07/2006 5:03:45 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

No kidding. Clearly wasn't in.


4 posted on 02/07/2006 5:05:59 PM PST by jdm
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To: B Knotts

So what, questionable calls are a part of the game. If one bad call makes them fall apart, then they didn't deserve to win anyway.


5 posted on 02/07/2006 5:06:18 PM PST by iPod Shuffle
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To: B Knotts
A 5th year, part-time referee gets to do the Super Bowl? I guess I don't know exactly how these guy are picked for this.
6 posted on 02/07/2006 5:06:35 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: bikepacker67
FWIW, I have a hard time believing they were getting ready to "go for it."

It was still fairly early in the game, and they would have been insane not to just get the field goal to tie it up before the end of the first half.

7 posted on 02/07/2006 5:06:49 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

That makes two of us -- I was convinced he didn't get in either! But then I didn't think there was offensive pass interference on the Seattle touchdown called back or even Madden couldn't find a holding call on the pass that would have put Seattle inside the five yard line.

I am not a fan of either team but the officiating was totally rotten. If I didn't know better, I would say the fix was in with these refs.


8 posted on 02/07/2006 5:08:28 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Throw out OK's Governor DoLittle in 2006! Allen in 2008!)
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To: bikepacker67

Roethlisberger also stated (and so did coach Cowher) that they would have gone for the touchdown on 4rth down if the call went the other way. From the 1 inch line, their chances were excellent either way. Oh, and from the many replays I saw, I believe the tip of the ball did cross into the white line, but not over. Still counts as 6. All that is needed is for any part of the ball to cross the plane of the white line.


9 posted on 02/07/2006 5:09:36 PM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

It wasn't one bad call it was at least three. All against the Seahawks and ALL costing touchdowns.


10 posted on 02/07/2006 5:11:16 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: PhiKapMom
The worst call, and the one that I haven't seen anyone try to defend, was that illegal block call against Hasselbeck on the tackle after the INT.
11 posted on 02/07/2006 5:11:52 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

They would hand the ball over on the one inch line, get the safety and the ball. Even better.


12 posted on 02/07/2006 5:12:47 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: B Knotts

Oh yea, now wasn't that a ridiculous call?!? Almost as bad as some of the calls the Sharks get. Oh cr@p this isn't a hockey thread? My bad.


13 posted on 02/07/2006 5:15:01 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: RightWhale

Like I said, it was still early in the game. I can't believe they wouldn't have gone for the easy 3 points.


14 posted on 02/07/2006 5:15:41 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: SFC Chromey

It does almost seem like they snuck in some NHL refs.


15 posted on 02/07/2006 5:20:22 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts

Steelers are a little different. They have always relied on defense, and anything the offense can give them is bonus. Odds are they would have got it in on the next down, but if they didn't, the defense would have had good odds on the sack, or even a fumble in the endzone.


16 posted on 02/07/2006 5:21:04 PM PST by RightWhale (pas de lieu, Rhone que nous)
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To: B Knotts
He had the worst view of anyone on the field. Think about it.
17 posted on 02/07/2006 5:41:31 PM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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To: iPod Shuffle
If one bad call makes them fall apart...

ONE bad call?

18 posted on 02/07/2006 5:43:24 PM PST by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: iPod Shuffle
One bad call, yes.

I don't think that either team deserved to win. Pittsburgh had no offense for most of the first half. Seattle moved the ball well but Stevens dropped passes in crucial situations.

19 posted on 02/07/2006 5:45:31 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: B Knotts
To: Paloma_55
but the worst aggregiance was when they gave a TD to Pittsburgh when the QB had not broken the plane of the goal.

Yes, he did break the goal line. I am no Steeler fan, nor a Seahawk fan. Yesterday, I cared less who won.

But as far as that call goes - The end zone begins where the white goal line begins and extends indefinitely perpendicular, upwards, into space from each side line. The end zone ends where the white line begins on the end line and extends to each side line.

The ball, any part of the ball whether it is the tip, or the side panel has to simply "touch" that goal line, albeit in space, extended. The ball, cradled in his right arm, crossed that perpendicular line extended as he was in flight. That was the touchdown. The play was over right then and there, while he was in the air. It doesn't have to get into the blue area of the end zone, it simply has to "touch" the imaginary line extended.

In flight, he was pushed backwards in mid air, landed short of the goal line when he came down, but as soon as the ball touched the line in possession of a player, it is a touchdown. Reply showed that. There was a camera in perfect position to capture that shot. It was the exact shot the linesman or line judge had.

This picture is from the back of the end zone and even it shows TD in flight. Look at the goal line in relation to the ball. The TV camera was a perfect picture.

 


332 posted on 02/06/2006 4:55:44 PM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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20 posted on 02/07/2006 5:45:49 PM PST by b4its2late (Terrorists will either succeed in changing our way of life, or we will change theirs. - Rummy)
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To: upier

ping !


21 posted on 02/07/2006 6:24:51 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: b4its2late

I know what a touchdown is.

The play was very close, and could have gone either way.

It was the line judge's hesitance, and his TD signal only after seeing Ben on the ground, that made people think that something wasn't right.

The review was correct, in that it was not clear enough either way to overturn the call on the field.


22 posted on 02/07/2006 8:22:50 PM PST by B Knotts
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To: iPod Shuffle
If one bad call

Ahhhhh...would that it were but one.

23 posted on 02/07/2006 8:24:44 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgences of society's understanding.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; ml/nj
From another post: "And it's now been explained to you many many times that those calls were CORRECT. At this point anybody saying those calls are wrong is just stating an article of faith and deliberately living in denial of the facts. Warren Jones HIMSELF said the holding call was CORRECT. It was the right call, player that got called had been warned before to stop holding, he did it again, exactly the way he'd been told not too. 100% LEGIT flag, 100% legit wiping out of the play, 100% living in denial to continue to insist it was wrong."

When it comes down to it the Steelers played better than the Seahawks and won the game. The Seahawks only converted 20% of their 3rd downs, they dropped many passes, they missed two field goals, they gave up the longest running TD in SB history, they got faked out of their jocks on the Randal El pass, they demonstrated the worst clock management I've ever seen, etc. Jones was holding all game and he finally got flagged for it. The receiver pushed off. That is the definition of offensive pass interference. The Seahawks are a good team that made too many mistakes to win that day. They can only blame themselves.
24 posted on 02/08/2006 5:11:49 AM PST by upier (Stop Child abuse - Teach your children English!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

(courtesy 82ndAirborne)

25 posted on 02/08/2006 5:14:34 AM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

"So what, questionable calls are a part of the game. If one bad call makes them fall apart, then they didn't deserve to win anyway."

1. It was more than one questionable call.

2. The vast majority of the questionable calls went against Seattle.


26 posted on 02/08/2006 5:16:56 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: B Knotts

Roethlisberger said yesterday that after seeing the play on tape, that it was a touchdown. By the way, new photos are coming out that show it clearly.

By the way, the league has reviewed the officiating and have upheld the calls. It just goes to show that Al Michaels and John Madden are still morons.


27 posted on 02/08/2006 5:17:54 AM PST by Varda
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To: jdsteel
"From the 1 inch line, their chances were excellent either way."

And there's no way Bettis would cough up the football at the goal line in such an important game, right? ;-)

28 posted on 02/08/2006 5:17:59 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

There was exactly one bad call: the Hassleback illegal blocking call.

Photo evidence proves the offensive pass intereference, Ben DID get in (the ball broke te plane at the apex of the div -- most of the crybabies are pointing to the end of the dive), and the holding call.

What about all the holding calls that DIDN'T get called against the shehawks? What about the clip that DIDN'T get called when the Shehawks whacked Ben on the 7 on his back?

Seattle got beaten. Period.


29 posted on 02/08/2006 5:20:18 AM PST by freedumb2003 (American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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To: freedumb2003

"There was exactly one bad call: the Hassleback illegal blocking call"

Either you're one of the idiot referees, or you're a Steelers fan.

I've seen better officiating at a Pop Warner game.


30 posted on 02/08/2006 5:26:47 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (Tagline deleted at request of moderator.)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I had no dog in this fight. I'm neither a Seahawk or Steeler fan, but one word of advice: if you're that close to the goal line and you want to cross that line, stick the ball out in front of you. Make dam#d sure that at least the ball gets in. The rest of you can be laying in the field of play. Big Ben could have done that. There was no defenders in position to knock the ball loose. In the futere, my money is on him or anyone extending the ball over the goal line. Leave no doubt about it.


31 posted on 02/08/2006 6:51:06 AM PST by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED.)
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To: Hatteras
From the 1 inch line, their chances were excellent either way." And there's no way Bettis would cough up the football at the goal line in such an important game, right? ;-)

Excellent point, well taken, but I'd have to say he'd be hugging that ball for all it was worth....if he was holding it. According to Cowher & Ben, the next play was another QB Sneak. Even against a very good Seahawks line, chances of an inch were very, very good.

32 posted on 02/08/2006 7:15:12 AM PST by jdsteel ('nuff said.)
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