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MOTORCYCLE DESIGN TROPHY 2005 (a little retroactive, I guess)
insidebikes.com ^ | 10 February 2006

Posted on 02/10/2006 1:07:50 PM PST by martin_fierro

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Duck Hypermotard Concept


Yamaha MT-OS


Yamaha R6


Victory Vision (Unnngh!)

1 posted on 02/10/2006 1:07:53 PM PST by martin_fierro
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2 posted on 02/10/2006 1:08:40 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: martin_fierro
They don't look comfortable or practical, but they sure look purty.

Except the Victory. Ugh. What is that - a corporate death-rattle?

3 posted on 02/10/2006 1:12:59 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government "job" attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Blue Jays
Hi All-

Judge Dredd rode one of those Victory Vision motorcycles nearly eleven years ago.

~ Blue Jays ~

4 posted on 02/10/2006 1:17:11 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Hank Rearden
What is that - a corporate death-rattle?

Motorcycledom's answer to the Aztek.

5 posted on 02/10/2006 1:18:15 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: martin_fierro

I like the Ducati. That Victory bike is awful. What were they smoking over at Polaris?


6 posted on 02/10/2006 1:25:28 PM PST by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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To: martin_fierro

I prefer the Munro Special.

7 posted on 02/10/2006 1:39:18 PM PST by BigTex5
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To: martin_fierro
Here's the future...thx to Segway technology...


8 posted on 02/10/2006 1:39:53 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: martin_fierro

Say MF ~ what's the name of that strange motorcycle that has an in-line 4 with two crankshafts, with two cylinders turning in opposite directions for prefect harmonics.

The last four letters of its name are CRYZ or something like that ~ It isn't in production yet and they've upgraded the design?? :):)


9 posted on 02/10/2006 2:16:00 PM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: martin_fierro

I like the winner...it's got crisp, clean lines. I wonder how it rides?


10 posted on 02/10/2006 2:46:06 PM PST by Emmalein (Try not to let your mind wander...It is too small and fragile to be out by itself.)
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To: martin_fierro
Ducati Hypermotard

Ducati Non-ritalan injected special needs cycle.

*Slubber bib & sippy cup sold seperatly.

11 posted on 02/10/2006 3:07:19 PM PST by FreedomFarmer (Push Me, Shove You - Oh, Yeah? Says Who? Push Me, Shove You -Oh, Yeah? Says Who?)
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To: blackie; uglybiker; JoeSixPack1; pt17; BraveMan; Tijeras_Slim

*racking brain*

I have no idea.

Anyone?


12 posted on 02/10/2006 3:17:20 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: martin_fierro

please add my to the hooligan biker list


13 posted on 02/10/2006 3:29:05 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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To: martin_fierro

kinda looks like the new Yamaha MT-01. I want one of those
or a new Speed Triple.


14 posted on 02/10/2006 3:32:20 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Muslims pray to Allah, Allah prays to Chuck Norris.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Done!


15 posted on 02/10/2006 3:39:22 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: blackie
This probably isn't it.


Kawasaki has a 650cc Parallel Twin concept, the ER-6N shown above, rumoured to be filled with mechanical weirdness.



Then of course, there's the Suzuki Boost King Concept, featuring a turbocharged version of the 1300cc Hayabusa motor, in case you're in a hurry.
16 posted on 02/10/2006 3:53:34 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan


The Suzuki Stratosphere Concept, with an 1100cc, inline six-cylinder engine and a claimed 180hp.
Can you say Katana? I knew you could . . .


Concerned about losing ground in the Ugly Motorcycle competition, BMW countered with the F800S . . .

I think I'll go add some chromey thingy to my Dresser . . .
17 posted on 02/10/2006 4:11:58 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: martin_fierro; blackie; JoeSixPack1; pt17; BraveMan; Tijeras_Slim
Blackie. You wouldn't be talking about Neander Motors, would you?
18 posted on 02/10/2006 4:12:08 PM PST by uglybiker (If a Liberal said something, and there was no one around to hear. Would it still be stupid?)
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To: uglybiker

WOW!! Outstanding!! I want one!


19 posted on 02/10/2006 4:50:37 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: uglybiker; JoeSixPack1

ACH DU LIEBER!

Das ist Shveeet!


20 posted on 02/10/2006 5:20:16 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: martin_fierro

Gesundheit


21 posted on 02/10/2006 5:52:42 PM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: blackie
Say MF ~ what's the name of that strange motorcycle that has an in-line 4 with two crankshafts, with two cylinders turning in opposite directions for prefect harmonics.

The last four letters of its name are CRYZ or something like that ~ It isn't in production yet and they've upgraded the design?? :):)


That would be the MotoCzysz C1
22 posted on 02/10/2006 6:03:24 PM PST by BansheeBill
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To: martin_fierro
Here's the best design in this year of high gas prices. It gets 75-90 miles per gallon and cruises at 60 all day.


23 posted on 02/10/2006 7:21:33 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Poser; JoeSixPack1

You, sir, are one secure man.

(hey! I have that same helmet!)


24 posted on 02/10/2006 7:26:04 PM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: martin_fierro
Now that's a Duc I can ride. Probably not quite as fast as this:

http://www.ducati.com/od/ducatinorthamerica/news/detail.jhtml?newsId=10582

25 posted on 02/10/2006 7:31:15 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: martin_fierro
"You, sir, are one secure man. "

Here's one of my other scooters...


26 posted on 02/10/2006 7:39:46 PM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: martin_fierro
I love Ducatis, but I've never been a fan of Super Motard styling, and while I loved the work of Tamborini, some of the new designs (like this one) really leave me cold. The only 3 really new designs that I really love from Ducati, are actually tributes to the "old" Ducati, like this MH900e (from 2001), which is very loosly based on the Mike Hailwood Replicas from the late 70s and early 80s (the bike that made me want a Ducati!)

The Paul Smart Replica

Or the Sport 1000

All three of these bikes, while quite modern, harken back to the 1970s.

Mark

27 posted on 02/10/2006 10:21:14 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: SFC Chromey
Now that's a Duc I can ride. Probably not quite as fast as this:

I'm just not a big fan of Pierre Treblanch's work. Some of his stuff is cool, but between the above, and the mid to late 80s 900 SuperSports,

I really prefer the older model. May not be as fast, or "racy," but that's OK by me.

Mark

28 posted on 02/10/2006 10:28:58 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: BansheeBill

Am I to understand that someone is updating the old Ariel "Square Four"?

KEWL!


29 posted on 02/10/2006 10:29:17 PM PST by Don W (Stress is when you wake up screaming, and then you realize you haven't fallen asleep yet.)
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To: martin_fierro; blackie; JoeSixPack1; uglybiker; Tijeras_Slim
I suspect this JATO bike design wasn't even considered.

Sorry, I just had to post this :-)

30 posted on 02/11/2006 4:33:58 AM PST by pt17
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To: martin_fierro

I guess I'm a Ducati Mellowmotard.


31 posted on 02/11/2006 5:53:13 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: pt17

Oh, *kife*!

> stolen grahic <


32 posted on 02/11/2006 7:31:32 AM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Beware the Ducati Fcuktard.


33 posted on 02/11/2006 7:32:27 AM PST by martin_fierro (I signed up in 1997 to post *this*?)
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To: martin_fierro; uglybiker; JoeSixPack1

At $85,000.00 U.S., I'll not have one in my stable anytime soon. Sigh . . .

Thanks UB, for the link. Interesting stuff!


34 posted on 02/11/2006 10:25:42 AM PST by BraveMan
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I remember now, MF and Gang ~ it's a MotoCzysz and it's made here in Oregon.

http://motoczysz.com/


35 posted on 02/11/2006 10:39:14 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: BansheeBill; blackie; All


http://www.motoczysz.com/main.php?area=bike
36 posted on 02/11/2006 10:40:34 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: BansheeBill; martin_fierro; uglybiker; JoeSixPack1; pt17; BraveMan; Tijeras_Slim

You got it ~ I just remembered before I got to your post.

My buddy: the local Triumph http://www.time-to-ride.com/ dealer is really impressed with it, he visited the factory in Portland and had a long discussion with Czysz.

Nortons http://www.nortonmotorcycles.com/ are manufactured in Gladstone, Oregon.

The Norton guy doesn't have the Big $$ Bucks like old Czysz has, if he can get more financial backing he should sell quite a few of those beauties. :)


37 posted on 02/11/2006 10:53:51 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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I love Italians . . .


The incomparable Bimota Tesi.
http://www.bimota.it/scheda_tesi2d_2_eng.htm
38 posted on 02/11/2006 10:53:57 AM PST by BraveMan
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To: BraveMan
"Concerned about losing ground in the Ugly Motorcycle competition, BMW countered with the F800S . . ."

You are a gifted very wordsmith!!


39 posted on 02/11/2006 10:57:03 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: uglybiker

No I'm not ~ now, that is one weird motorcycle.

Leave it to the Huns. :):):)


40 posted on 02/11/2006 10:58:24 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: BansheeBill

PS I like your handle ~ do have a Yamaha Quad?


41 posted on 02/11/2006 11:00:55 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: BraveMan

Whoa! Bravissimo!


42 posted on 02/11/2006 11:05:40 AM PST by StarfireIV (John Galt was an optimist)
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To: martin_fierro

It should be called the Victory Cylon.


43 posted on 02/11/2006 11:06:18 AM PST by StarfireIV (John Galt was an optimist)
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To: Dark Skies

"Git yer one-wheel runnin. Head out on the highway..." Um, perhaps not.


44 posted on 02/11/2006 11:07:26 AM PST by StarfireIV (John Galt was an optimist)
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To: BraveMan

Does that thing have any turn in the front wheel??

Impressive design, Bellissimo!


45 posted on 02/11/2006 11:41:00 AM PST by JoeSixPack1
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To: StarfireIV

lol!


46 posted on 02/11/2006 12:13:32 PM PST by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: JoeSixPack1
It's a variant of the Di Fazio system. Bimota has been using this design for a while now. From what I've read the first Bimota design way back when had this nasty habit of locking in place under certain conditions, making things quite exciting for a moment or two . . .


An author by the name of Tony Foale penned an article many years ago called "STEER FOR THE FUTURE", essentially a primer for alternative motorcycle front suspension systems. A copy of the article can be found here.

http://www.tonyfoale.com/Articles/Steer/STEER.htm

IMHO, telescoping forks, long the mainstay in current motorcycle design, have several design flaws making them a lousy choice for motorcycle front suspensions. Braking severely compromises suspension performance and steering geometry is constantly all over the map. All manner of gedgets and geegaws have been added over the years (dampers, anti-dive valving, supplemental air/oil reservoirs, etc.) to assist this fundamentally flawed system. I suspect Product Liability concerns have prevented manufacturers from straying too far from the current telescopic fork design.

Some time ago (15+ years if memory serves), Harley-Davidson was sued over their "shopping cart" steering geometry, used on Baggers and Road Kings to this day. A friend of mine was on the jury. A newbie rider with about a week's seat time on his new Electra-Glide (!) hit a big pothole on a gravel road, putting the bike into a big tank slapper which pitched him off. He was paralyzed in the accident, and blamed his injuries on the unconventional steering geometry (which puts the axle behind the steering pivot). My friend the juror told me HD didn't even try to defend themselves in the court case.

The newbie won the case and was awarded several million dollars. Harley never changed the geometry though, which is why the heavy Baggers are so easy to deal with at parking lot speeds. They did however limit turn-to-turn travel (which I found out about the hard way).
47 posted on 02/11/2006 12:59:41 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: MarkL
You are riding what I'm riding. I want one of those fuel injected DS1000 motors in my bike though!


48 posted on 02/11/2006 10:07:50 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: BraveMan

I nearly peed my pants when I first saw one of these at Alice's in Woodside.


49 posted on 02/11/2006 10:09:57 PM PST by SFC Chromey (We are at war with Islamofascism)
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To: SFC Chromey
And you're wearing the sort of leather that I'd like (maybe not quite the same style or colors, though). Helmut's people do some really nice work at Helimot, and though I've never bought their leathers (they don't make cows big enough! lol), about 4 or 5 years ago, I bought a set of Held summer gloves from them, and I love them, though they're pretty much worn out.

Mark

50 posted on 02/12/2006 5:52:17 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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