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Refuting The Myths: It is time to expose anti-livestock bias in federal culture
Range magazine ^ | 2004 | Steven H. Rich

Posted on 02/21/2006 1:06:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Do cows really eat fish? Do they eat fish eggs? I have personally replied (on behalf of clients) to multiple Draft Biological Opinions regarding two national forests where U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service biologists made these claims. They claimed that cows destroyed the nests (redds) of fish species that don't build nests, stepped on fish, and muddied the water of fish that spawn only in muddy water. They also designated dry washes as critical habitat for endangered species of fish.

(Excerpt) Read more at rangemagazine.com ...


TOPICS: Agriculture
KEYWORDS: animalhusbandry; beef; cattle; foodsupply; livestock

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1 posted on 02/21/2006 1:06:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Ellen Hamburger
that's right, it's Ellen Hamburger.

2 posted on 02/21/2006 1:13:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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To: BearWash; BenLurkin; BJClinton; BOBTHENAILER; bdeaner; billorites; Cagey; Calpernia; ...

Sorry to trouble everyone, but this is merely a reply to, not a ping list. I wondered if there is a meat/beef/omnivore ping list. Didn't see one on SeaMole's list:

http://www.freerepublic.com/~seamole/


3 posted on 02/21/2006 1:29:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 02/21/2006 1:49:28 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nature is reality. When bees steal from flowers they fertilize them. In the case of cows, they eat grass... and dung beetles feed off their excretions. Surely there is a similar relationship with the fish.


5 posted on 02/21/2006 4:00:11 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: billorites

Oh man! You can't post a picture like that without an address. Thats cruel and inhumane ;)


6 posted on 02/21/2006 4:52:57 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Old Flat Toad

Do cows eat kudzu?

I didn't see it in any federal pub -- not sure exactly where -- it may have been the Ashevile Mountain Express but I'm not certain -- I did not believe it though (the article implied that cows would prefer to eat kudzu -- I would believe they would eat kudzu if nothing else were available).


7 posted on 02/21/2006 6:07:58 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

I found a reference to cows and hay at www://alabamatv.org/kudzu/.
The wife had some as a potted plant. It's not a desert dweller, it freezes or fries too easily.



It might be time to put in for a grant to study the effects of wastewater on the Santa Cruz native fish population.(Snicker)


8 posted on 02/21/2006 7:28:20 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: Old Flat Toad
"Oh man! You can't post a picture like that without an address. Thats cruel and inhumane ;)"

If you have to ask, you have heart disease and you're dead already.

9 posted on 02/21/2006 7:30:41 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: SunkenCiv
"that's right, it's Ellen Hamburger."

You know, there's a "special sauce" or "sesame seed bun" joke to be made here.

I, however, am way too sophisticated and genteel to stoop to such an easy laugh...

10 posted on 02/21/2006 7:38:55 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

That's your sandwich, isn't it.


11 posted on 02/21/2006 7:45:32 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the RANGE post...nice to see other FReepers read RANGE. Steven Rich is one of my favorite writers.

Cheers,


12 posted on 02/22/2006 6:30:11 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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To: Cuttnhorse

I don't, but someone I know from another forum does, and pointed me in that direction. :')


13 posted on 02/22/2006 8:12:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The love of learning, the sequestered nooks, And all the sweet serenity of books. (Longfellow))
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