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Biker Brawl: Dozens of squad cars respond to melee
South Bend Tribune ^ | April 3, 2006 | Jeff Parrott

Posted on 04/03/2006 12:35:04 PM PDT by bagadonutz

Dozens of squad cars respond to melee

Police say only two injured, none arrested.


JEFF PARROTT
Tribune Staff Writer


Area police broke up a large fight Saturday between rival motorcycle gangs at the St. Joseph County 4-H Fairgrounds.

Dozens of people, some wielding weapons, were involved in the melee that erupted shortly after noon, police said. The bikers, including those wearing "Outlaw" and "Hells Angels" gang jackets from Chicago, Detroit and Indianapolis, were attending a motorcycle swap meet.

More than 30 police cars from South Bend, St. Joseph County and Mishawaka responded to the scene. Two bikers suffered injuries that required medical attention but were not life-threatening, said St. Joseph County police spokeswoman Jaimee Thirion.

A county officer, Cpl. Kent Wickham, suffered minor injuries in a traffic accident on his way to the fairgrounds, Thirion said.

After bringing the disturbance under control, police canceled the remainder of the event and ordered those attending to leave.



No arrests were made, police said.

Dan Hardman, who with his wife had set up a booth to sell parts, described a chaotic scene.

"They were using bats, (motorcycle) forks, hammers on each other, with no regard for anyone around them, even children," said Hardman, who saw an 8-month-old child in the booth next to his.

Hardman, a member of a Christian biker ministry called Bikers at the Crossing, said most of the time, biking is a peaceful "family thing."

This turned out to be anything but. He said a police account that only two people were injured was "baloney."



"They were using fenders on top of heads, it was horrible," he said.

Witness Bob Candler, of Niles, agreed.

"It was pretty ugly," said Candler. "I seen a guy getting hit in the head with a hammer, he kept waling on him."

Hardman voiced sharp criticism for the security at the event and its promoters, Paragon Promotions of Portage, Mich.

"You don't allow colors to mix," Hardman said, referring to the fact that rival gang members were allowed to wear their gang symbols. "There should have been a lot more security. There were two (security guards), and they ran like girls."



Paragon Promotions officials did not return a call seeking comment Saturday.

An employee of Freedom Cycle Inc., 6210 U.S. 31 South, who declined to give his name, said the Michiana area has long been the "turf" of three gangs: the Hells Angels, Iron Cats and Devils Diciples. The gangs might have considered it poor "etiquette" when the Outlaws showed up without having first cleared it with the gangs.

"It was the Angels and the Outlaws in the same place, period. That's all you need to know," said the employee, who did not attend the event but heard about it from people who did. "It's a club mentality, like one baseball team against another, or just like two high schools. There's been an ongoing dispute between the two clubs forever."

Candler said the Outlaws should have been arrested. He found it odd that so many, at least 75, would come all the way from Indianapolis just for a small swap meet.

"They were not there for a good time," Candler said. "I think they were there looking for trouble."



Dan Brouillette, of Goshen, said he arrived shortly after police and was never allowed in. He had hoped to trade a motorcycle for some parts.

He arrived to see men attempting to leave the fairgrounds on their motorcycles, only to be detained by police officers pointing shotguns at them, Brouillete said.

"The next thing I know it's a giant episode of 'Cops,' " he said. "It's the most excitement I've seen in a long time, so I'm glad I came out."

But Candler was less flippant.

"It was sickening," he said, recalling how a young woman turned to him and his girlfriend as the fighting broke out. "She was pretty frightened. She said, 'Don't leave me.' "

Staff writer Jeff Parrott: jparrott@sbtinfo.com (574) 235-6320




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A man is led away by South Bend Police and St. Joseph County sheriff's deputies after an altercation at a motorcycle swap meet at the St. Joseph County fairgrounds Saturday.
Tribune Photo/MARCUS MARTER


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: biker; motorcycle; motorcycleoutlaws
The Outlaw MC calls themselves "1%ers" as in "99% of motorcycling enthusiasts are good law-abiding people..." The Outlaws website displays another quote: "Never forget that the pride and respect you enjoy today was formed and is still being paid for by your Brothers in Prison!"
1 posted on 04/03/2006 12:35:05 PM PDT by bagadonutz
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To: bagadonutz

Like the cops in Boca used say--"Throw some guns over the wall and lettem kill each other!"


2 posted on 04/03/2006 12:37:01 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: bagadonutz
There was a guy in Austin,TX. who was assassinated in front of his family for wanting to start a Hell's Angels chapter in Bandito country. (a single bullet to the head) He considered himself a 1%er.
3 posted on 04/03/2006 12:41:00 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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Keep cool boy...

4 posted on 04/03/2006 12:41:47 PM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: wolfcreek

from the article I learned there is some bad blood between the Hell's Angels and the Outlaws. sounds like the guy in Austin was a considered a traitor to his colors.


5 posted on 04/03/2006 12:42:39 PM PDT by bagadonutz
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To: martin_fierro

I hate it when the Vespa owners and YSR-50 squids have one too many redbulls.


6 posted on 04/03/2006 12:43:41 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: bagadonutz

Maybe it was just a Meth Conference and Exhibition that got all wound too tight?


7 posted on 04/03/2006 12:45:59 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: wolfcreek

Used to be in a club till the Hells Angels gave an ultimatum.Affiliate with us,or we take your colors.Used to be a good club up to that point.We had functions that the whole family could enjoy without fear.I decided I didnt need that type of brotherhood.Let em get after it and kill each other.


8 posted on 04/03/2006 12:47:34 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: bagadonutz

I heard on the radio today a Hells Angel was shot and killed by some guy driving an SUV, I think it was here in New York. They said it was road rage or something but after reading this, maybe it`s the same guys? The 1%ers?


9 posted on 04/03/2006 12:49:02 PM PDT by Screamname (If we focus our acting on global politics, we can change everything and stuff - Liv Tyler)
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To: evets

Oooblie Ooo!


10 posted on 04/03/2006 12:49:12 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: bagadonutz

This ties in with another post of HA being shot by a driver in a car with FL plates.

Most of the time the event owners make sure that their event is "neutral" territory.

The net result is some idiot is going to have all motorcycle clothing declared colors.

The mental midgest then declare ANYTHING with a motorcylce term/logo to be colors. Thus a t-shirt with yamaha, harley davidson, or just says "let those who ride decide" are suddently eeevil gang members.


11 posted on 04/03/2006 12:50:09 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

I think some people don't fully understand the meaning of 1% 'er.


12 posted on 04/03/2006 12:52:16 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy
I think some people don't fully understand the meaning of 1% 'er.

It's not a hobby, it's a lifestyle.

I'm not sure if it still holds true, but in MN clubs weren't allowed to wear colors without permission of HA within 100 miles of Minneapolis. It was a recent rule, because I remember a bunch of clubs around town in the 70's wearing colors.

13 posted on 04/03/2006 1:00:57 PM PDT by cryptical (Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't you know I'm loco?)
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To: massgopguy
I think some people don't fully understand the meaning of 1% 'er.

That's how much of there brain matter is still functional

14 posted on 04/03/2006 1:06:01 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: paul51

Ah, Nah. HA's went corporate a long time ago.


15 posted on 04/03/2006 1:10:12 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: xarmydog

The HA's also take title to your bike. So if you quit. The bike stays. So...do your tattoos.


16 posted on 04/03/2006 1:11:27 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: bagadonutz
Never mess with a biker.


17 posted on 04/03/2006 1:20:18 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: bagadonutz
"They were using bats, (motorcycle) forks, hammers on each other...

...and only two required medical attention?

are they sure that it wasn't the "Black Widows" motorcycle gang? fighting Philo Beddoe and his orangutan?

18 posted on 04/03/2006 1:27:58 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Are you OK? ;-)


19 posted on 04/03/2006 1:32:40 PM PDT by HeadOn (Just goin' about my business...)
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To: cryptical
I'm not sure if it still holds true, but in MN clubs weren't allowed to wear colors without permission of HA within 100 miles of Minneapolis.

At the risk of sounding stupid .... what the heck are 'colors'?

20 posted on 04/03/2006 1:33:30 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Every man must be tempted, sometimes,to hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.)
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To: xarmydog
Lots of clubs went that way around here. Free Wheelers, The Goose, some of the Slaves clubs... those are just three that come to mind. Had a girlfriend who use to dance. She was "owned" by the Angels. They had her kids "taken care of", and made sure she had plenty of "crank". She danced all nite and sold "it" all day. One day she got a guy who liked to cut. She had scars all over her back. Guess they weren't so good at "taking care" of her.

Everytime Leno says bikers are all nice guys, I think about her and about hurl. The guy doesn't have a freaking clue.

21 posted on 04/03/2006 1:34:24 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: litehaus
"gangs at the St. Joseph County 4-H Fairgrounds"

There must have been a pretty young ewe involved.

22 posted on 04/03/2006 1:34:42 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Centurion2000

Patch on their backs. Says Hells Angels or Vagos or whatever.


23 posted on 04/03/2006 1:35:17 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: HeadOn

I'm fine. I wonder if this has something to do with the Hell's Angel that was shot yesterday in Ct.


24 posted on 04/03/2006 1:39:15 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: bagadonutz

Anytime you get Outlaws and Angels together there's going to be trouble. Those two have been banging heads for at least 15 years now.


25 posted on 04/03/2006 1:42:57 PM PDT by joebuck
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I dunno... I just thought I'd ping you to see if you were paying attention! Have a great week.


26 posted on 04/03/2006 1:46:29 PM PDT by HeadOn (Just goin' about my business...)
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To: joebuck

Yeah. Them and the Vagos. To them, it's just business. The more landscape they own, the more women and drugs they can deal. Some other club comes in, tries to take their territory/women/market, it's a fight. And they love to fight.


27 posted on 04/03/2006 1:47:13 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: HeadOn

Thanks, you have a good week too.


28 posted on 04/03/2006 1:47:46 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: martin_fierro

Hey Martin do you think this is linked to the Ct. shooting?


29 posted on 04/03/2006 1:48:33 PM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: massgopguy
Ah, Nah. HA's went corporate a long time ago

That's because they are 1.01 %er's

30 posted on 04/03/2006 1:49:33 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: longtermmemmory
I caught some of that crap one night long ago from a nitwit and I just had a factory patch on my rag.

Any bar owner that ignorant is just too dumb to support financially--it might encourage them to breed.

31 posted on 04/03/2006 1:53:52 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: paul51
A few years ago I was in the French Quarter when they had the Outlaw convention must of been 2000 of them. They were pretty cool. Would let tourists take pics...rev up the bikes for the kids. Wild lookin bunch. Saw no trouble but who would want to start any in the 1st place.
32 posted on 04/03/2006 1:56:18 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: bagadonutz
There were two (security guards), and they ran like girls.

Well, not me, nosireebub. Me and my buddy will gladly step in the middle of dozens of crazed, drunk, coked-up, homicidal bikers and make them toe the line. You betcha.

One wonders exactly what two guards were expected to do about this except bleed heavily on the offenders...

33 posted on 04/03/2006 2:02:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Blackirish
They were pretty cool

Yeah, they're real cool. (friggin numb skulls)

34 posted on 04/03/2006 2:04:39 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Billthedrill

Especially for $7.50/hour and free hot dogs.


35 posted on 04/03/2006 2:05:50 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Billthedrill
One wonders exactly what two guards were expected to do about this except bleed heavily on the offenders...

So do you want me to lay down so you can all stomp me, or did you want to knock me down yourself? Just sayin...

36 posted on 04/03/2006 2:14:41 PM PDT by cryptical (Who you tryin' to get crazy with ese? Don't you know I'm loco?)
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To: joebuck
Those two have been banging heads for at least 15 years now.

A lot longer than that. I remember back in the late 60's a chapter of Outlaws in NC ambushed a group of Hell's Angels as the HA's were traveling south on I95 heading for Florida.

If memory serves, about nine were killed.

37 posted on 04/03/2006 2:23:07 PM PDT by cowboyway (My heroes have always been cowboys.)
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To: Billthedrill

HAHAHAHAHAHaa.... yup. I think you have them all figured out. Course if you bled ENOUGH they could slip and fall maybe hit their head on the bike....


38 posted on 04/03/2006 2:24:44 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: paul51
OK for a pack of numb skulls they acted civilly
39 posted on 04/03/2006 2:36:46 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: Blackirish; paul51
"OK for a pack of numb skulls they acted civilly"

HAHAHAHAHHAaaa

Musta been early. Beer hadn't started flowing. Guy packing the meth hadn't shown up yet.

40 posted on 04/03/2006 2:40:42 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: Blackirish
OK for a pack of numb skulls they acted civilly

A mind is a terrible thing to waste!!!

41 posted on 04/03/2006 2:44:05 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver (Most Americans are so spoiled with freedom they have no idea what it takes to earn and keep it.)
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To: Hi Heels

The thing was most these guys were north of 50 and by 10:00 were nowhere to be seen. I think they did some drinking during the day and then went to bed.

The college kids had a lot more staying power.


42 posted on 04/03/2006 2:51:53 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)
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To: Blackirish
I ran into a group of Galloping Goose a couple of years back. They were north of 60 and looked like Keith Richards' Grandpa on a bad day.
43 posted on 04/03/2006 2:56:19 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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To: Hi Heels
You seem to know more than the average bear,as the saying goes.They hung out for quite a while until they decided we were 'worthy',and then made an offer we couldn't refuse.I was not like a lot of the other guys.I would have thought nothing of blowing their asses to bits if they needed it.And knowing myself,I wouldn't stop till everyone and everything stopped moving.Sad to say,I learned who the wimps were in our club.Some were the so called,self anointed tough guys.I lived with some real tough men in the service,and a lot of them would eat these guys for breakfast.I saw way more than I needed to with the HA.Not my cup of tea.
44 posted on 04/03/2006 5:58:51 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: xarmydog
Amen, brother. Bullies with Bikes. That's all it is. Sometimes STONED bullies with bikes. or DRUNK bullies with bikes. Worthless nonetheless.
45 posted on 04/04/2006 8:03:18 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Don't you wish there were a knob on the computer to turn up the intelligence?)
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