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Legless man told to pick asparagus
Ananova ^ | April 7, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 04/07/2006 8:23:25 AM PDT by MadIvan

An unemployed German man with no legs has been told to get a job picking asparagus.

Winfried Gutschwager, 47, said he was outraged when he received a letter from his local job centre saying they had found him a job harvesting asparagus.

"My disability was clearly recorded when I went to sign on for benefits. They simply have no respect for anybody," said the Berlin man, who lost his legs to diabetes last May.

Job centre spokesman Andreas Kanter, 51, apologised saying: "It was an unfortunate mistake due to the fact the client's records had not been updated."

It is not the first time the German welfare office has come under fire for its treatment of people with disabilities.

Last year a woman with no arms and no legs was told she could not get full handicapped benefits because she was not disabled enough.


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KEYWORDS: benefit; germany; unemployment
I believe in cracking down on benefit cheats and welfare reform, but sometimes it can get into the area of the ridiculous.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 04/07/2006 8:23:27 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: LadyofShalott; Tolik; mtngrl@vrwc; pax_et_bonum; Alkhin; agrace; EggsAckley; dinasour; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 04/07/2006 8:23:47 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ya hya chouhada! Dune fans, visit - http://www.thesietch.com/)
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To: MadIvan

Just doing the jobs, the legged won't do.


3 posted on 04/07/2006 8:25:52 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Doing the job Americans will do, paying the taxes illegals don't pay.)
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To: MadIvan

The woman with no arms and legs was not disabled enough??!! Is their definition of disabled to be dead?


4 posted on 04/07/2006 8:26:03 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: KittyKares

Perhaps they thought she could do touch typing with her nose.

Regards, Ivan


5 posted on 04/07/2006 8:26:48 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ya hya chouhada! Dune fans, visit - http://www.thesietch.com/)
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To: MadIvan
Well, he could have been required to take a job as a prostitute.

Germany pushes IT pro into prostitution

6 posted on 04/07/2006 8:27:35 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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To: MadIvan
Wasn't this the same outfit that told some woman that because she hadn't considered prostitution as a line of work, that she hadn't looked hard enough for a job?
7 posted on 04/07/2006 8:27:59 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: MadIvan
Pick asparagus or BE second base.

Decisions....decisions....decisions.

8 posted on 04/07/2006 8:28:12 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: KarlInOhio

LOL -- asked & answered in #7


9 posted on 04/07/2006 8:28:33 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

Yes.

Regards, Ivan


10 posted on 04/07/2006 8:29:26 AM PDT by MadIvan (Ya hya chouhada! Dune fans, visit - http://www.thesietch.com/)
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To: MadIvan

At least he wasn't ordered to become a prostitute.


11 posted on 04/07/2006 8:29:30 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: MadIvan

We can send them a couple of Mexicans. Call it a "jobs Germans won't do" kind of thing.


12 posted on 04/07/2006 8:29:49 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: MadIvan

I'm still looking for that $50 an hour lettuce picking job McPain was just talking about...


13 posted on 04/07/2006 8:32:28 AM PDT by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)
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To: MadIvan

As of last May the guy had legs. It doesn't seem particularly odd or outrageous that an enormous bureaucracy hadn't updated its entire database in 10 months.


14 posted on 04/07/2006 8:35:14 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MadIvan

Well, they were polite enough to NOT suggest he pick coconuts.


What do you call a man with no arms or legs, rolling in the leaves?


Russell


15 posted on 04/07/2006 8:35:24 AM PDT by gate2wire
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To: KarlInOhio

ROTFLMAO!

He is 51. Maybe there is an age limit for prostitution positions.


16 posted on 04/07/2006 8:36:08 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: KittyKares

Actually, he is only 47. I was laughing too hard to get it right.


17 posted on 04/07/2006 8:37:23 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: MadIvan

At least he wouldn't have to bend over.


18 posted on 04/07/2006 8:43:14 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Self appointed RNC Press Secretary for Smarmy Sound Bites.)
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To: MadIvan

What a whinger!

He should get one of those little carts like Eddie Murphy's character in 'Trading Places' - then he could pick asparagus like a damn!


19 posted on 04/07/2006 8:58:47 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: MadIvan

Government is a machine - not a person with a brain. We should not expect decisions from the machine that make any sense at all for individuals. Government welfare is the meanest thing we could do for the poor and disabled.


20 posted on 04/07/2006 9:09:41 AM PDT by Galveston Grl (Getting angry and abandoning power to the Democrats is not a choice.)
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To: MadIvan
Given the circumstances,this guy's reaction is reasonable. But given the current German socialist psyche,I wonder how he'd react if he was offered a desk job in a nice comfortable office.
21 posted on 04/07/2006 9:48:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: MadIvan

"Job centre spokesman Andreas Kanter, 51, apologised saying: "It was an unfortunate mistake due to the fact the client's records had not been updated."

Baloney. They do it all on purpose, thinking it's another clever way to see if the disability really exists...


22 posted on 04/07/2006 9:55:31 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin ((The other books I posted are quite interesting...))
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To: N. Theknow
Asparagus, eh?
Do you suppose they'll let him keep the tips?
23 posted on 04/07/2006 9:58:53 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: wideawake

The way that the German system works...you have a office with the power to update the database...seven employees. Each will be given a group...A to C, D to J, etc. Under the German style of management...these are more or less permanet stations. You as a 27 year old woman...working in the database area...will be forever the A to C person. And so...as you come up and become pregnant...and you take your two years of semi-employed status (full vacation as you deliver for the kid's first two years)...the organization doesn't really fill your shoes. Yes, I know this sounds amazing...but its basically how it works. The fall-back position is that they will bring in a 16-year old kid...trainee...and give him/her the A to C group....but speed here is 20 percent of what the first employee did.

I've sat here for 13 years in Germany...watching their entire management game...and continue to laugh how they manage to be as good as they are. I went into a office once...one employee...she had boxes of paperwork set into the corner. I gave her my paperwork and ask how long it would take. She laughed and pointed into the corner at the boxes. It was a 3-person office...gal #1 was on 2-year preg leave...gal#2 was on rehab for six months (paid by the government of course). They would not fill the positions because they were already filled. It would be four months before she finally got to my paperwork.

And I'll this on the unemployment game. Fifteen months ago, they went to the new "harsh" treatment of unemployed. After 12 months of unemployment and 80 percent of your paycheck covered...you enter the Hartz Four program. Under this as a Germany....you get enough to cover rent, utilities, food and maybe an extra $40 a week for a family of four. They expect you to either find work or they will find work for you (sweeping streets, cleaning ditches, etc). In the case of the aspargus folks...this is seasonal work for eight weeks and Germany needs at least 10,000 people doing this work. Unlike the US with Mexicans...there just aren't Mexicans around to do this work...so they routinely expect unemployed folks to take the aspargus jobs...or be kicked off the free ride.


24 posted on 04/07/2006 9:38:07 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: MadIvan

I don't want government health care for the same reasons.


25 posted on 04/08/2006 6:37:12 AM PDT by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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