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Dixie Chicks Slam Lubbock & Buddy Holly
Lubbock Online ^ | 5/2/06

Posted on 05/02/2006 1:57:49 PM PDT by beansox

Rock icon's siblings perturbed at his portrayal in lyrics

LUBBOCK, Texas A reference to late rock and roller Buddy Holly on the new Dixie Chicks album is drawing criticism from his brothers.

In "Lubbock or Leave It," Natalie Maines of Lubbock sings: "I hear they hate me now/Just like they hated you./Maybe when I'm dead and gone/I'm gonna get a statue, too."

Holly was born in Lubbock and his statue is downtown.

He died in a 1959 plane crash in Iowa.

Larry Holley doesn't know of anyone who hated his late sibling.

Travis Holley says his late brother was proud of Lubbock.

Maines in 2003 -- during the Iraq war buildup -- told a London concert that the group was "ashamed" President Bush is from Texas.

Many country radio stations stopped playing Dixie Chicks music.

Some still don't.

Kenny Maines of Lubbock says the lyrics of his niece's group indicate some venting of feelings continues.

The new album is: "Taking the Long Way."


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: americahaters; buddyholly; bushhaters; celebrityairheads; countrymusic; ditzychicks; dixiechicks; dixiecoward; hacks
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Holly was actually a talented musician who was NEVER hated. Natalie needs to learn respect for the dead who can not defend themselves to her false alligations and constant whinging!

and besides, there isnt enough cement in world to make a statuye of the fat pig face one!

1 posted on 05/02/2006 1:57:52 PM PDT by beansox
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Maybe when I'm dead and gone/I'm gonna get a statue, too.

How many marbles would have to die to erect a life-size statue of that fat ass?

2 posted on 05/02/2006 2:00:28 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: beansox
I thought the statues made of her every year are made out of butter, not cement.


3 posted on 05/02/2006 2:00:54 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day (Mmm! The tears of unfathomable sadness! Yummy!)
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To: beansox

Maybe when I'm dead and gone/I'm gonna get a statue, too."



Let's face it, the two sisters got talent and if it weren't for them, that little fat girl would be selling mumu's at a Lane Bryant in Nashville somewhere.

-Larry The Cable Guy


4 posted on 05/02/2006 2:01:36 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (It wasn't the spikes that kept Him on the cross.)
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To: trubluolyguy

It is time to dump the fat B^&%H.


5 posted on 05/02/2006 2:05:17 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We got permits, yes we DO! We got permits, how 'bout YOU?;))
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To: bmwcyle; All

The NewYorker suprisingly gave a less than fabulous review of the album


MAKING NICE
The Dixie Chicks’ new album.
by SASHA FRERE-JONES
Issue of 2006-05-01
Posted 2006-04-24


Though country music is beloved by conservatives—its songs mention God as often as they do whiskey—it isn’t a partisan genre; it’s political by nature. Garth Brooks defended gay rights in the song “We Shall Be Free,” in 1992, at the height of his career; Toby Keith’s 2002 hit “Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue (The Angry American)” crammed a year’s worth of jingoist anger and fear into three and a quarter minutes, culminating in the phrase “ ’Cause we’ll put a boot in your ass, it’s the American way.” In 2003, ten days before the invasion of Iraq, Natalie Maines, the lead singer of the Texan band the Dixie Chicks, one of the biggest-selling acts in the history of country music, told an audience in London, “Just so you know, we’re ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas.” The remark scandalized many Americans, but it was in keeping with country music’s tradition of unvarnished opinions.

Soon after the show, the Dixie Chicks—Maines and two skilled musicians, the sisters Emily Robison (on banjo) and Martie Maguire (on fiddle)—began receiving death threats. Radio stations dropped their songs, and, in a quaint throwback to the days when John Lennon claimed that the Beatles were “more popular than Jesus,” the group’s CDs were stomped to bits and bulldozed. Keith, one of country’s most popular male singers, whose song “Angry American” Maines had called “ignorant,” performed in front of a photo manipulated to show her entwined with Saddam Hussein. Maines responded by appearing at a music-awards ceremony in a T-shirt bearing the unmysterious abbreviation “F.U.T.K.”

In some quarters, this kind of sparring is called conversation, and before 2003 the Dixie Chicks’ natural candor—reflected in sassy songs about women who don’t suffer wishy-washy men—had worked to their advantage. As one track from their album “Wide Open Spaces” put it, “If you’re gonna say goodbye, don’t take all day and night, let ’er rip—let it fly.” One of the songs that transformed the band from country big to plain old big was the 1999 single “Goodbye Earl,” a comic track about finishing off an abusive husband with a plate of poisoned black-eyed peas. Four years later, in London, after Maines made her infamous remark, the Dixie Chicks played “Travelin’ Soldier,” a song about a G.I. who writes love letters to a girl he met just before he left home for Vietnam—where he dies. In March, the group released “Not Ready to Make Nice,” the first single from their new album, “Taking the Long Way.” The song is being promoted as a response to what the Dixie Chicks refer to as “the incident,” and it is presumably intended as a sign that the new album, which will be released next month, aims to be as cheeky as their earlier work.

“Not Ready to Make Nice” alternates sparse verses in a minor key with a bumptious chorus, in which Maines doubles the pace of her singing, neatly suggesting a rising temper: “It’s too late to make it right, I probably wouldn’t if I could, ’cause I’m mad as hell, can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should.” The song would be a fine riposte to a bossy lover. But why isn’t Maines singing about Iraq?

Even before the incident, the Dixie Chicks had started to stray from mainstream country. In 2001, they got into a legal dispute with Sony, their record label, and before the case was resolved they recorded an album’s worth of acoustic bluegrass numbers, unsure how, or whether, the songs would be released. In 2002, after settling with the Chicks, Sony released the album, “Home,” and it yielded the highest-charting singles of the group’s career. The biggest hit, though, wasn’t country or bluegrass; it was a cover of Fleetwood Mac’s “Landslide,” a mournful ballad about overwhelming love. The rest of the songs from “Home” more closely resembled the traditional bluegrass numbers on the unexpectedly popular soundtrack from “O Brother, Where Art Thou?” than they did any of the material on the band’s previous two blockbusters, “Wide Open Spaces” and “Fly.”

Like the majority of country albums, these were written by, or co-written with, professional songwriters (eighteen people are credited on “Fly”) and performed with the help of studio musicians. Maines’s twangy bazooka of a voice set the band apart, and she presented herself as a confident woman battling social convention. “Ready to Run,” from “Fly” (1999), for example, depicts domesticity as imprisonment: “When my momma says I look good in white, I’m gonna be ready this time, oh yeah—ready, ready, ready, ready. . . ready to run.” Even “Long Time Gone,” the first single from “Home,” though stripped of the zoomy drums and guitars of the earlier records, was a defiant song about a woman who leaves her family’s home (and possibly shacks up with another woman, depending on how you interpret the pronouns).

The bluegrass music on “Home” implied that the Dixie Chicks were ambivalent about the sound that had made them stars; “Taking the Long Way” makes it explicit that they want to change in a fundamental way. The album was produced by Rick Rubin, who made his reputation working with hip-hop and hard-rock acts, and almost all of the backing musicians are members of famous rock bands, including Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Most of the songs are played on acoustic instruments, which accounts for the album’s relaxed pace and airy sound; the press release plausibly cites soft rock like the Eagles and the Mamas and the Papas as inspirations.

The most telling difference, though, is that the Dixie Chicks are listed as co-writers on all of the songs. (Some of their collaborators are Keb’ Mo’, Sheryl Crow, and Gary Louris, of the country-rock band the Jayhawks.) This desire for control is understandable, but it requires the band to match the combined efforts of a team of people who have spent their careers writing country music—the plainspoken, almost always funny, storytelling songs that have made Nashville pop such a consistent pleasure for the past fifteen years.

Few pop performers sing in harmony as sweetly as do Maines, Robison, and Maguire. On the album’s charming opener, “The Long Way Around,” the trio ably mimics the spun-sugar vocals of Fleetwood Mac, while Maines reprises the familiar Dixie Chicks theme of leaving a small town for big things: she sings about choosing not to be like her friends who “married their high-school boyfriends,” deciding instead to tour with a band “in a pink R.V. with stars on the ceiling.” On the whole, however, “Taking the Long Way” is long on formal beauty and short on concrete details and taut one-liners. Why do the lyrics for “I Hope,” a weak-kneed gospel song that is one of the album’s only musically timid numbers, touch on spousal abuse only to conclude that “it’s O.K. for us to disagree, we can work it out lovingly”? Why is “So Hard,” a song about infertility, so vague? (“It felt like a given, something a woman’s born to do, a natural ambition to see a reflection of me and you.”)

It’s a shame that the Chicks’ words fail them, because they get so much else right. “Baby Hold On” makes up for obvious lyrics about an aging romance (“we might never live those days gone by, but we can try”) with a plaintive verse and a leaping chorus. The chord changes in “Silent House,” which describes a house that lacks a permanent occupant, move in a slow arc against harmonized vocals that shift subtly between minor and major passages. For lesser artists, an album this harmonically confident would be a coup. But in the case of the Dixie Chicks it’s disappointing, like watching Muhammad Ali hurt a man’s feelings.

What’s missing from “Not Ready to Make Nice” and the album’s other lovely but overly impressionistic songs are the straightforward lyrics of a professional Nashville songwriter like Dennis Linde, who wrote “Goodbye Earl” for the Chicks (as well as “Burning Love” for Elvis Presley in 1972). Linde’s song presses specifics into quick couplets: Wanda and Mary Anne were “the best of friends all through their high-school days, both members of the 4-H club, both active in the F.F.A.,” until Wanda’s husband, Earl, walked “right through that restraining order and put her in intensive care.” Mary Anne flies in from Atlanta and “she held Wanda’s hand as they worked out a plan and it didn’t take them long to decide that Earl had to die.” Now, those are fighting words.







http://www.newyorker.com/critics/music/articles/060501crmu_music






6 posted on 05/02/2006 2:09:21 PM PDT by beansox
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To: bmwcyle

Its long past time to dump "chunky". The sisters have hung onto her way to long to recover from the crap she has brought on them.

They must be trying to cross over into Rock and Roll where their socialist views will be easier to market.


7 posted on 05/02/2006 2:09:37 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: beansox

The Ditsy S**ts strike again...


8 posted on 05/02/2006 2:09:53 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert

These are the lyrics to the song:


Dust bowl, Bible belt
Got more churches than trees
Raise me, praise me, couldn`t save me
Couldn`t keep me on my knees
Oh boy
Rave on down loop 289
That`ll be the day you see me back
In this fool`s paradise

Temptation`s strong
(Salvation`s gone)
I`m on my way
To hell`s half acre
How will I ever
How will I ever
Get to heaven now

Throwin` stones from the top of your rock
Thinkin` no one can see
The secrets you hide behind
Your southern hospitality
On the strip the kids get lit
So they can have a real good time
Come Sunday they can just take their pick
From the crucifix skyline

Temptation`s strong
(Salvation`s gone)
I`m on my way
To hell`s half acre
How will I ever
How will I ever
Get to heaven now
Get to heaven now

International airport
A quarter after nine
Paris Texas, Athens Georgia`s
Not what I had in mind
As I`m getting out I laugh to myself
`Cause this is the only place
Where as you`re getting` on the plane
You see Buddy Holly`s face

I hear they hate me now
Just like they hated you
Maybe when I`m dead and gone
I`m gonna get a statue too

Temptation`s strong
(Salvation`s gone)
I`m on my way
To hell`s half acre
How will I ever
How will I ever
Get to heaven now
Get to heaven now
How will I ever
Get to heaven now



You can Freep this poll:
http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=4849676


9 posted on 05/02/2006 2:11:43 PM PDT by beansox
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Absolutely correct.

I hope this finishes them.

They are getting rather old to call themselves "chicks."


10 posted on 05/02/2006 2:11:46 PM PDT by onyx (They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: beansox
Holly was actually a talented musician who was NEVER hated.

In the name of accuracy, Holly was disliked by some in the older white generation for playing what they considered to be "negro music."

11 posted on 05/02/2006 2:11:46 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "undocumented workers." Use the correct term: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003

Have you told Larry?


"Larry Holley doesn't know of anyone who hated his late sibling."


12 posted on 05/02/2006 2:14:09 PM PDT by beansox
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To: beansox

I was replying to you, not Larry.

But to keep this in perspective, a lot if us despise (dare I say "hate?") the fugly Dixie Douchebags.


13 posted on 05/02/2006 2:16:48 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "undocumented workers." Use the correct term: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To: freedumb2003

Guns Up!


14 posted on 05/02/2006 2:24:58 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: beansox

Whats a Dixie Chick?


15 posted on 05/02/2006 2:26:42 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: beansox
Buddy Holly had class,decency and talent.These dames have all but three of those qualities.
16 posted on 05/02/2006 2:28:55 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: freedumb2003

I know you were. ;)

But anywho, what kind of women smear the name of a man who isnt around to defend himself? Cowards. They are always smearing someones name for the sake of self promotion. So typical of them.


17 posted on 05/02/2006 2:29:17 PM PDT by beansox
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To: southernerwithanattitude

You pretty much nalied it. Natalie told Entertainment Weekly that she was never really country and never liked it.

" For me to be in country music to begin with was not who I was. I liked Martie and Emily's playing, but I did not grow up liking country music. And I guess I was ignorant to the fact that the stereotypes behind country music were true — and it was disappointing. And so at this stage, I can never... I would be cheating myself and not setting a good example for my children to go back to something that I don't wholeheartedly believe in. So I'm pretty much done. They've shown their true colors. I like lots of country music, but as far as the industry and everything that happened... I couldn't want to be farther away from that. And it's easier when you're financially set, because you can be a little more ballsy, and just do what you want to do"


18 posted on 05/02/2006 2:33:58 PM PDT by beansox
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To: beansox

Buddy Holly

19 posted on 05/02/2006 2:34:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: southernerwithanattitude

Of course now that Adult Contempory is all but ignoring their faux "rock" they come crawling back to country to see if maybe the cash cow isn't dried up. They have absolutely no integrity.


20 posted on 05/02/2006 2:35:56 PM PDT by beansox
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To: beansox
Thats why I can't believe they didn't drop her like a hot rock. The sisters music is grounded in blue grass/folk and it is hard to switch to rock with fiddles and banjos as your major instruments
21 posted on 05/02/2006 2:43:00 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude ({new and improved redneck})
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To: beansox

What a collection of genteel "ladies."


22 posted on 05/02/2006 2:43:53 PM PDT by zerosix (Romans 5:8)
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To: southernerwithanattitude

They (sisters) have all but been reduced to backup singers for Natalie on the new album. From what I have read around the web the banjo and fiddle have been marginalized on the album. Its all about Natalie now. I dont feel sorry for the sisters at all. They used Bush time and time and time again to garner fans at his expense on their way up the ladder. Called him a "personal friend" and even sang at his innaguration and at Rangers games when he was the owner. When it came to be honest about that friendship, they hid like cowards and pretended it never happened. They are now faux activists pandering to a fringe sect of society who seems intent on using them as pawns. They just will say or do anything for a buck. In my book that makes them whores. To liberals that makes them martyrs. Go figure.


23 posted on 05/02/2006 2:51:19 PM PDT by beansox
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To: beansox

24 posted on 05/02/2006 2:57:49 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: onyx
They are getting rather old to call themselves "chicks."

"Hens" would be an apt description.

25 posted on 05/02/2006 5:28:32 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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Is anyone suprised that they will be kicking off their tour in England, not America?

"The Dixie Chicks will return to the concert stage starting in England. The Chicks will play at the Shepherd’s Bush Empire in London, England on June 15th and as special guests to the Eagles at Twickenham Stadium in Middlesex, England on June 17th."


It seems everything in their lives revolves around BUSH. Its like he owns them or soemthing! ROFLMAO!


26 posted on 05/02/2006 5:39:57 PM PDT by beansox
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To: beansox
Is anyone suprised that they will be kicking off their tour in England, not America?

Nope. They find bigger anti-American crowds in foreign countries.

27 posted on 05/02/2006 5:44:20 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

For all of their in your face shenanigans, they sure are a cowerdess bunch when it comes to facing the music! ROFLMAO!


28 posted on 05/02/2006 5:51:39 PM PDT by beansox
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To: southernerwithanattitude


Don't give those sisters a pass they have said they agree with everything tubby said.


29 posted on 05/02/2006 5:59:32 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: beansox

Who pray tell us Nat hated Buddy Holly? This gal is just plain nuts, and mean too. I hope people quit buying their stupid records!


30 posted on 05/02/2006 6:01:59 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: BigSkyFreeper


Hens. Indeed.


31 posted on 05/02/2006 8:55:13 PM PDT by onyx (They're ILLEGAL! --- tough, FACTS DON'T MATTER.)
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To: windcliff
Buddy RULES!!

32 posted on 05/02/2006 9:01:41 PM PDT by stylecouncilor
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To: beansox

Dang. That is ONE bitter biatch.


33 posted on 05/02/2006 9:29:02 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: beansox
Maybe when I`m dead and gone I`m gonna get a statue too

Well there IS a statue of Lenin in Washington. ANYTHING can happen when leftists are concerned...


34 posted on 05/02/2006 9:37:43 PM PDT by weegee ("Season's Greetings and Happy Holidays")
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To: beansox
When it came to be honest about that friendship, they hid like cowards and pretended it never happened.

Reminds me of Gore's attitude towards the Phelps now...


35 posted on 05/02/2006 9:42:40 PM PDT by weegee ("Season's Greetings and Happy Holidays")
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To: beansox
Dixie Chicks .......

Who?

36 posted on 05/02/2006 9:44:34 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Never underestimate the treachery of the democRat party. Save the USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: blam

My hubby lived for several years in Lubbock and says that Buddy is still well loved there. Natalie is a psycho chick.


37 posted on 05/02/2006 9:45:57 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: beansox

What hideously pretentious, arrogant, childish lyrics. This clown understands nothing.


38 posted on 05/02/2006 9:47:29 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: Gay State Conservative
Buddy Holly had class,decency and talent

...and the people I meet in Lubbock are some of the nicest on this earth....

39 posted on 05/02/2006 9:47:47 PM PDT by Loud Mime (War is humanity's way of dealing with the tyranny caused by liberalism)
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To: ladyinred
"My hubby lived for several years in Lubbock and says that Buddy is still well loved there. "

Buddy was my first idol...way back when.

40 posted on 05/02/2006 9:49:42 PM PDT by blam
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To: beansox

The not-long-enough-in-the-egg Chick may have a crazed (imagine that) misunderstanding of the "it's jungle music" statement as portrayed in the movie about Buddy's life...


41 posted on 05/02/2006 9:50:30 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: freedumb2003
To some people it wasn't even "negro music" so much as it was "racket" and "that fad".

Sinatra hated it because it ushered in a new hit parade of standards he couldn't sing. He hated the Beatles too (but he eventually cut a couple Beatles covers, but then Yesterday is hardly "rock and roll").

Was Buddy ever hated" for drinking, drugging, gyrating, seducing young girls, speaking out against the Korean War, speaking out for labor strikes, etc?
42 posted on 05/02/2006 9:56:27 PM PDT by weegee ("Season's Greetings and Happy Holidays")
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To: beansox

In all fairness, they're probably talking in sweeping terms. In the beginning rock and roll was hated. Some radio stations wouldn't touch it. It was the devil's music. Elvis was the worst, blah blah. Mayors of cities sat as film cameras rolled and smashed records against the desk for effect.....


43 posted on 05/02/2006 9:58:56 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: beansox
NATALIE NEEDS TO

SHUT UP!!!!!!!!


44 posted on 05/03/2006 6:58:58 AM PDT by Pippin (Deus Meus Omnia!)
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To: Miss Behave

She really is.


45 posted on 05/03/2006 9:55:12 AM PDT by beansox
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To: beansox
So apparently the Chicks are good musicians, but not good songwriters. Aren't most of their well-known songs written by others?

Dixie Chicks are a covers band.

46 posted on 05/03/2006 10:02:05 AM PDT by GSWarrior (The road to good intention is paved with Hells.)
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To: GSWarrior

You are correct.


47 posted on 05/03/2006 10:22:03 AM PDT by beansox
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To: onyx

Next thing you know, they'll be dissing the Big Bopper or Bill Haley.


48 posted on 05/03/2006 12:40:47 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: southernerwithanattitude
Its long past time to dump "chunky".

...and you knew this was coming...

Natalie's replacement?

49 posted on 05/03/2006 12:51:10 PM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

The fans have now started attacking the Holly family saying "The Holly family just wants to stir the pot more just to get some attention."

If that isnt the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. Not to mention completely shameful!


50 posted on 05/03/2006 4:54:36 PM PDT by beansox
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