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Autopsy: Boot camp guards killed teen
CNN.com ^ | Friday, May 5, 2006; Posted: 9:21 p.m. EDT (01:21 GMT)

Posted on 05/05/2006 7:04:09 PM PDT by Diverdogz

(CNN) -- A teenager who died at a Florida boot camp was suffocated by guards who were restraining him, a medical examiner has determined. The teen's mother hailed the findings, saying "the truth is out," but a lawyer for one of the guards accused the examiner of giving in to political pressure. Martin Lee Anderson, 14, died in January after he was restrained and struck by workers at the boot camp for juvenile offenders. No charges have been filed in connection with Anderson's death. Initial autopsy results in February had determined Anderson died from complications from sickle cell trait, which had not been previously diagnosed in the teenage athlete. Hillsborough County Chief Medical Examiner Vernard I. Adams conducted a second autopsy after Anderson's family, other medical experts and civil rights leaders balked at the conclusion of the first examination. "Martin Anderson's death was caused by suffocation due to actions of the guards at the boot camp," Adams wrote. "The suffocation was caused by manual occlusion of the mouth, in concert with forced inhalation of ammonia fumes that caused spasm of the vocal cords resulting in internal blockage of the upper airway."

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bootcamp; jebnotsuperhero; oscar4crist; oscar4jeb; roussondoubleagnt
The more I read about this case, the more I suspect a massive conspiracy and corruption. Jeb Bush is on to it now, and I'm confident that he will cut through the BS and get to the bottom of this case.
1 posted on 05/05/2006 7:04:13 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: Diverdogz

Hire the right lawyer and you can get the results you want. State of Florida has deep pockets to be picked.


2 posted on 05/05/2006 7:07:01 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Well, first the autopsy was brought back to Bay County, in violation of state law. It should have occurred in Escambia County where Martin died. The first autopsy was a joke, blaming the death on sickle cell trait. The coroner has mad several very embarrassing mistakes in the past.

Next, Guy Tunnell, the head of FDLE and former Bay County Sheriff (founder of the boot camp in question), emailed his good friend, Sheriff Frank McKiethen (Tunnell's good buddy) in support of him.

Further, the district attorney, Steve Meadows, "lost" several emails concerning the case. The hard drive on his computer has been seized to see if the emails can be retrieved.

Guy Tunnell was forced to resign over comments he made about the case.

The kid died in the state's care. There has been a series of suspicious activity...and finally, Jeb Bush has had enough and plans to get to the bottom of the shenanigans. To me, it looks like a conspiracy. ..but hey, we'll find out soon enough.
3 posted on 05/05/2006 7:15:55 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: Diverdogz

They didn't like the results of the first autopsy so they had a second one performed.I bet they would have demanded a third autopsy if they didn't get what they were looking for from the second one.


4 posted on 05/05/2006 7:28:30 PM PDT by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: Diverdogz
I'm not familiar with all (or any) of the facts of the case. I did see the video, but I would give the guards the benefit of the doubt in this case. (the sickle cell thing was bizarre.)
5 posted on 05/05/2006 7:30:01 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: rdcorso
The coroner, Dr. Charles Siebert, is a complete bozo. One of his past autopsies described a woman as having "unremarkable testicles".

He is either corrupt or incompetent, take your pick.

6 posted on 05/05/2006 7:54:42 PM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: Diverdogz; 8mmMauser; floriduh voter; BykrBayb; T'wit
The more I read about this case, the more I suspect a massive conspiracy and corruption. Jeb Bush is on to it now, and I'm confident that he will cut through the BS and get to the bottom of this case.

Hey y'all...update on Martin Anderson. Thank you for posting this, Diverdogz.

7 posted on 05/06/2006 12:17:37 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Thanks for the ping. I see a couple comments suggesting the dead boy's family is running some kind of scam. It's just a coincidence that the guards happened to brutally beat him and force him to inhale ammonia immediately before he died unexpectedly from an undiagnosed natural cause. That explanation makes about as much sense as one I heard years ago when a man's body was found wrapped in a chain at the bottom of a river. The local sheriff, being the racist that he was, said "He stole the chain, and tried to swim across the river."


8 posted on 05/06/2006 1:58:14 AM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: Diverdogz

"Jeb Bush is on to it now, and I'm confident that he will cut through the BS and get to the bottom of this case."


I was confident that he would come to the aid of Terri Shiavo too....don't get your hopes up.


9 posted on 05/06/2006 2:14:36 AM PDT by Proud Conservative2 ("When people show you who they are...BELIEVE THEM the first time..." Maya Angelou)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; Diverdogz
Finally, finally, it is getting attention.

Pinged from Terri MAY Dailies

8mm

10 posted on 05/06/2006 4:19:43 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: Diverdogz
>> manual occlusion of the mouth, in concert with forced inhalation of ammonia fumes

Do we have a medical professional in the house?

It evidently went something like this. They beat the boy senseless. When he didn't come around, they tried to revive him with smelling salts (ammonia). I'll guess that he was too far gone and that didn't work, so they held his mouth shut to make sure he got a blast of the ammonia. Now he can breathe nothing but poisonous ammonia fumes which irritate his throat and lungs. His reflex is to breathe harder (that's what smelling salts are for), but with his mouth "occluded," he gets only the poisonous fumes and little or no oxygen. He suffocates.

I'd still say they beat him to death. They beat him so badly that they couldn't revive him and (accidentally?) finished him off with the smelling salts.

How does that sound to medics?

11 posted on 05/06/2006 7:11:26 AM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5)Ludwig Minelli 4)nuclear war 3)Ted Bundy 2)Margaret Sanger 1)Eric Pianka.)
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To: T'wit

Well, even the second autopsy says he wasn't beat to death, but I'm sure the beating put an additional need for air on Martin (I'm guessing you get excited and breathe hard when being beat) ..and therefore contributed to his death.


12 posted on 05/06/2006 8:36:29 AM PDT by Diverdogz
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To: BykrBayb
That explanation makes about as much sense as one I heard years ago when a man's body was found wrapped in a chain at the bottom of a river. The local sheriff, being the racist that he was, said "He stole the chain, and tried to swim across the river."

That's almost funny. The ME is being criticized for doing his job. Unfortunately, his findings corraborate the video tape. The cops don't like that, and are trying to discredit him. How typical. I thought I'd ping everyone to this, since we've been discussing this on the other thread.

There is another story in which a girl claims she was kidnapped and raped from a bus stop. She couldn't get back on school grounds to call for a ride. Now she's suing the school district. People have said that she's out trying to make a buck, and that in fact she wasn't assaulted. I'm answering that reply next ;-)

13 posted on 05/06/2006 9:54:14 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Fla AG Crist will have to be the fall guy for Jeb to come out okay on the murder of Martin Anderson.

Crist is protecting the deputies who murdered Martin. Crist has had since January to at least start indictments and it is now May.

Somebody big is going down and imo, Jeb doesn't want this to be the biggest blunder of the State of Florida his last year in office.

We've come full circle since law enforcement and medical personnel and judges killed Terri. The same types killed Martin. Exactly the same.

14 posted on 05/06/2006 1:23:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: BykrBayb
The Hillsborough County ME and SA Mark Ober used Nasa technology to emhance the videotape. Somebody shoved ammonia pellets into Martin's nose while somebody covered up Martin's mouth. He suffocated as both his airways were blocked off. The coverup is obvious as Martin died on January 6th. The family has hardly rushed to judgment and they have a dead boy to boot.

Blame Charlie Crist. He's the malcontent whose staff insists they have no civil rights dept. I'm certain Florida sheriffs have donated to Charlie's campaign which is why it's taking so long to at least book the deputies just in case any of them are flight risks. If a complete fix is in, watch everybody walk. Florida is a dishonest state.

15 posted on 05/06/2006 1:29:46 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: floriduh voter

It's the same mentality, alright. This time they picked the wrong victim. I hate to turn the death of this young man political, but since government will not stand up for their citizens, so be it.

I don't think they can get out of this or cover it up, without raising the mother of all backlashes. African Americans suffer more incidents of abuse at the hands of authority than other races. If we're fed up and disgusted, imagine how they feel.


16 posted on 05/06/2006 2:00:15 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
This is the mother of all paybacks for leaving Terri to die.

The State established a pattern of neglect and abuse and there is now 1. an innocent disabled woman who lost her life 2. an innocent black male teen who lost his life

If Martin's death exposes the corruption that defines Florida, I will be grateful.

17 posted on 05/06/2006 2:14:34 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: mhking

Is there still a black conservative ping list? If so, Martin Anderson boot camp death thread.


18 posted on 05/06/2006 2:17:10 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: 8mmMauser; All; amdgmary; BykrBayb
The family's attorney is Darryl Rousson. He is a former democrat turned Republican. He is tied to Charlie Crist's campaign so, if the family reads free republic, they should be aware that their attorney may be playing both sides of the fence, protecting Crist while representing them. Darryl Rousson has a REAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

Darryl Rousson needs to specify his relationship with Florida AG Crist because he may be part of the coverup.

Remember Jeb's attorney Ken Connor played both sides too re: Terri.

19 posted on 05/06/2006 2:21:33 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: Diverdogz
He must have gotten his medical license from a crackerjack box
20 posted on 05/06/2006 2:27:16 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: T'wit; BykrBayb
The guy in Martin's family's camp is shadowing them for Crist either with or without their knowledge.

I smell a deal where nobody is brought to justice. Martin will end up just being a pawn if he isn't already.

Open your wallet, Jeb. We're on to you.

21 posted on 05/06/2006 2:35:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: Proud Conservative2

All of this activity and statements re: Martin Anderson is more play acting. Please read down the thread and you'll see why.


22 posted on 05/06/2006 2:37:11 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: Diverdogz

Tunnell resigned because he called Barak Obama "osama bin laden" and he called some other guy a name.


23 posted on 05/06/2006 2:38:09 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: fluffy stuff; amdgmary; pickyourpoison

Ping. There's more to Martin Anderson's terrible death than meets the eye.


24 posted on 05/06/2006 2:42:12 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: Diverdogz
>> Well, even the second autopsy says he wasn't beat to death

I'm afraid we're not on the same wave length. My point was that morally -- not literally -- the beating was the proximate cause of Martin's death. The people who beat him senseless were the guilty parties, not the ones who tried to revive him.

25 posted on 05/06/2006 2:48:20 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5)Ludwig Minelli 4)nuclear war 3)Ted Bundy 2)Margaret Sanger 1)Eric Pianka.)
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To: T'wit

And Nurse Hands on Hips is also RESPONSIBLE.


26 posted on 05/06/2006 2:49:35 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: floriduh voter

She certainly is.


27 posted on 05/06/2006 2:51:25 PM PDT by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5)Ludwig Minelli 4)nuclear war 3)Ted Bundy 2)Margaret Sanger 1)Eric Pianka.)
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To: T'wit
From St. Pete Times archives:

"...Rouson avidly supports Republican Attorney General Charlie Crist for governor, and he has no plans to run for office himself: "I am running for the deposit line at the local bank, and anyone who wants to run with me can."

FV says: Conflict of interest for Rouson to avidly support CRIST and to stand side by side with Martin's mother. COLLUSION ALERT! Rouson quit the democratic party to support CRIST who is supposed to charge the kid beaters per Rouson's demands?

Something's not right here. Are they going to attempt to make Crist look like a hero but let those responsible get off easy since they are Crist employees? Are they going to pay off Martin's mom who is represented by Crist's supporter former NAACP Director Rouson? You know they are up to no good because IT'S FLORIDUH!

28 posted on 05/06/2006 3:01:56 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit; BykrBayb
BINGO! ..."12-17-05 Uhurus say Sembler partner Daryl Rousson sold out the black community..."

CHARLIE CRIST'S CAMPAIGN MANAGER IS BRENT SEMBLER, the son. Darryl Rousson per the exerpt is a Sembler partner.

Sembler's are up to their eyeballs in Bushes and Judge Greer.

I said this was all play acting and I was right. It all leads back to Pinellas County where Terri was murdered by Sembler lifetime friend Greer.

Whatever they are doing in the name of Martin, they might just be doing in the name of Charlie Crist. What a coup!

29 posted on 05/06/2006 3:08:22 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: floriduh voter

Somebody needs to get word to this family. They've suffered enough, and now they're about to get screwed again.


30 posted on 05/06/2006 3:10:30 PM PDT by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: BykrBayb; T'wit; 8mmMauser

Unless mom is in on it, I hate to say. They are all play acting, the leaders that is, so maybe the mom is unaware of the huge conflict of interest or maybe she's in on it until the state gives her a settlement if she signs a release to hold the state harmless for killing Martin. Seriesly. This is hugh.


31 posted on 05/06/2006 3:13:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: floriduh voter

This time they aren't going to get away with it. The story was on the local news, and they showed the protesters. You bet Jeb ordered another autopsy. The family stated that they're going for justice. The problem is that at the end of the piece, the talking head said that the autopsy couldn't determine whether the death was an accident or homicide. Weasels always find a hole big enough to squeeze through.

My sympathy goes out to the parents. They decided that the boy needed to learn a lesson, so they agreed to place him in that facility to straighten him out. They'll rethink that decision for the rest of their lives.



32 posted on 05/06/2006 5:28:24 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: floriduh voter
Something's not right here. Are they going to attempt to make Crist look like a hero but let those responsible get off easy since they are Crist employees? Are they going to pay off Martin's mom who is represented by Crist's supporter former NAACP Director Rouson? You know they are up to no good because IT'S FLORIDUH!

OMG. Collusion is right. Conflict of interest, as well. Does the family know any of this?

33 posted on 05/06/2006 5:34:08 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: T'wit
"Martin Anderson's death was caused by suffocation due to actions of the guards at the boot camp," Adams wrote. "The suffocation was caused by manual occlusion of the mouth, in concert with forced inhalation of ammonia fumes that caused spasm of the vocal cords resulting in internal blockage of the upper airway."

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Videotape of the incident showed Anderson being forced to the ground by various takedown methods including knee strikes to his thigh, pressure points to his ear and punches to his arms.

Later, another camp staffer hit him from behind, forcing Anderson to lurch forward. A nurse stood by, and on at least one occasion she determined his vital signs were normal.

Anderson was taken away on a stretcher and died later that day.

Adams reported that the blows "did not contribute to his death."

There's videotape, and the medical examiner says the beating did not cause his death, but suffocating did.

And the reason he was beaten and subdued? Because he refused to run, saying he couldn't breathe - he had sickle cell disease, where the blood can't always carry enough oxygen.

But you'll be pleased to know the sheriff's office has not re-employed the eight staffers involved. That'll show them.

Mrs VS

34 posted on 05/06/2006 8:05:04 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: TheSpottedOwl; BykrBayb; 8mmMauser; T'wit; amdgmary; fluffy stuff; Republic; tutstar; ...
I don't know Martin's family but put three and three together. Jeb calls Mel Sembler's wife Mrs. Ambassadorable, Brent Sembler is Crist's campaign manager and Darryl announced he was supporting Crist's campaign AND Darryl Rousson either did or does work for the Sembler Corporation. Darryl stood by Gina Jones, Martin's mom in a press conference demanding that Charlie Crist do an investigation. (what kind of sham is that? He knows Crist on a personal basis).

COLLUSION and once again, Florida in the Sunshine is out the window.

The really curious thing was that Jeb, Crist and Rousson were all quoted in the same article and in the same tv coverage here. Was this a planned media blitz to fool people? It sure looks like it was well orchestrated but obviously, not undiscoverable.

IMO, this is about protecting Charlie Crist, not getting justice for Martin Anderson. Imagine the attorney general's friend shadowing the victim of a crime committed while the decedent was in state custody.

Has Darryl Rousson disclosed to Gina Jones that he is really tight with Charlie Crist or is mom Gina in on it? Either way Gina Jones is being victimized again.

35 posted on 05/07/2006 7:50:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: Diverdogz

I couldn't believe what I was seeing in the video that showed the grown adults beating the crap out of this young boy. These adults, and a massive amount at that, have no excuse for this kind of behavior. Pathetic, pathetic, pathetic...


36 posted on 05/07/2006 7:52:52 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Sembler, Crist and Rousson are all from St. Pete, related by business and by the Crist campaign.

Crist's friend Rousson, is shadowing Martin's mom. I don't know if she knows it or not but it seems to me if she doesn't know it, Rousson has a "failure to disclose" on his hands. This doesn't leave Charlie Crist blameless. IMO, Crist KNEW he was being spoon-fed a demand for justice by his friend Rousson. This is why I like to have women in leadership positions. When this many men try to be sneaky, they get caught. Women are better at it.

37 posted on 05/07/2006 8:18:26 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: floriduh voter

They have a tough decision on their hands. Protect Crist and the goons who beat that kid to death, or do the job they were elected to do. I guess they'll cover for Crist and leave Martin's family hanging out to dry.

I really don't think Mom's in on this. After the shock of losing her child, I don't think she's in any shape to connect the dots, much less cash in.


38 posted on 05/07/2006 8:51:24 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: floriduh voter

Lol, women have that sneaky gene ;-)

Failure to disclose, AND conflict of interest. If Gina doesn't have a clue, someone should give her one. She has a right and an obligation to know what's going on, and who is representing her and her family.

Politics is disgusting. Been keeping up with the latest Kennedy mess? Since when do you wreck your car, and the brass shows up to take you home, instead of giving you a breathalyzer? Twice in 2 weeks. Instead of jail, he sneaks off to the Mayo clinic. He should just resign.


39 posted on 05/07/2006 8:55:33 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If you don't understand the word "Illegal", then the public school system has failed you.)
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To: BykrBayb; 8mmMauser

bttt. this thread needs to go to the media.


40 posted on 05/08/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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To: amdgmary; T'wit; Dante3; pickyourpoison; 8mmMauser; FR_addict; Republic; Lesforlife; ...
Congratulations to North Country Gazette. They are number 1 on google for the Boot Camp Death story.

Visit: www.northcountrygazette.org

41 posted on 05/08/2006 8:05:08 AM PDT by floriduh voter ( www.tg2006.com Gallagher for Fla Guv, Harris for US Senate, McCollum for FL AG)
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