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Duke's Response to Allegations Explained (Woman Initially told Police She Was Raped by 20 White Men)
ABC News ^ | May 8, 2006 | Aaron Beard

Posted on 05/08/2006 6:49:09 PM PDT by zaxxon

Duke underestimated the rape allegations against members of the lacrosse team in part because Durham police initially said the accuser "kept changing her story and was not credible," according to a university report issued Monday.

The day after the March 13 team party where a 27-year-old black woman claimed she was raped, Durham police told campus officers that "this will blow over," the report said. It said that the woman initially told police she was raped by 20 white men, then said she was attacked by three.

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1 posted on 05/08/2006 6:49:14 PM PDT by zaxxon
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To: zaxxon
Women like this one make it more difficult for real rape victims to find justice.
2 posted on 05/08/2006 6:50:44 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: zaxxon

It's over.......


3 posted on 05/08/2006 6:51:00 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: zaxxon
In a Maxwell Smart voice, "would you believe 3?
4 posted on 05/08/2006 6:52:17 PM PDT by jeremiah (How much did we get for that rope?)
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To: zaxxon

Why are we hearing about this now, instead of early on?


5 posted on 05/08/2006 6:55:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: zaxxon
The report said Duke's response was also limited by its lack of diversity in senior management; Brodhead and his core advisers are almost all white men.

The case may have been handled better "if a wide array of life histories and perspectives had been brought to bear on what were sensitive and highly charges issues," the report said.

Somebody has been watching way too much Oprah.

6 posted on 05/08/2006 6:55:37 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: zaxxon

any alien abductions?

but I heard they found a hair?


7 posted on 05/08/2006 6:57:10 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: All

Also, no mention of the bathroom or broomstick in the initial allegation.....


8 posted on 05/08/2006 6:59:47 PM PDT by zaxxon
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To: zaxxon

Of course the Racist Panthers still believe the stripper. Everybody knows Blacks never lie.

Pray for W and Our Troops


9 posted on 05/08/2006 7:00:02 PM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: zaxxon

This woman may be suffering from bi-polar disease with a touch of paranoia. Some people love being the victim.


10 posted on 05/08/2006 7:00:08 PM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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To: zaxxon
The DA got what he wanted...reelection.
The Media got what they wanted...a story about how privileged white kids destroy the lives of underprivileged minorities.
The PC group worked their magic...the Duke Lacrosse team seasons canceled and their reputation in the gutter.
And Jesse Jackson got his cameo helping the disenfranchised victim.
Barf...I hope they hang all the guilty parties.
11 posted on 05/08/2006 7:04:09 PM PDT by Cognoscenti247
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To: MizSterious
"...Durham police initially said the accuser "kept changing her story and was not credible," according to a university report issued Monday."

So let's see, exactly how did the woman's story suddently develop overwhelming credibility?? Could it be that an ambitious DA and rampant political correctness kicked in??
12 posted on 05/08/2006 7:05:04 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: MizSterious

The problem is that there are so many liars that all the cases are treated seriously and it truly screws the innocent accused.

This is exactly what happened in the 80s with every divorce case including an accusation of sexual molestation.


14 posted on 05/08/2006 7:06:27 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Howlin; maggief

Remember earlier this evening I said the police have turned on the DA because he took over? Now they are leaking EVERYTHING and this case is (or should be) OVER.


15 posted on 05/08/2006 7:08:08 PM PDT by Peach
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To: spanalot

Yes, on a Coke can, those aliens like the real thang. Incorrect spelling is intentional, just to head off the spelling police.


16 posted on 05/08/2006 7:13:16 PM PDT by Hilltop
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To: zaxxon
I hope the students once they are clear can somehow sue the DA for malicious prosecution, especially the one student who has lock tight alibi of photos and receipts proving that he was not there at the time.
17 posted on 05/08/2006 7:15:43 PM PDT by hodaka
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To: Hilltop

I remember that national torture session like it was yesterday. On and on and on and on it went -- utter insanity, dementia. Joe Biden's mad hatter grin.


18 posted on 05/08/2006 7:20:57 PM PDT by bvw
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To: zaxxon

I'm not so sure this will just go away. Nifong is more or less committed to going forward with it, and the Grand Jury has indicted the three who were charged.

So, what are the chances it will be dropped without a trial? And what are the chances that there will be a fair trial?

It's a disgusting mess. And the pathetic thing is that evidently the two other candidates for DA were even worse than Nifong.


19 posted on 05/08/2006 7:21:15 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

How could ANYONE be worse than that P.O.S. Nifong? As a D.A. he sucks, and as a human being he sucks, so how could this ever be? It is the complete idiots in Durham who elect this kind of trash, because most of them aren't any better. They deserve getting the crap beat out of them in court, and then sued for false arrest, etc. I would hate to be a policeman/woman there with him "backing me up", as he is lower than whale manure in my book. In his case, DA doesn't mean district attorney, but does mean dumba$$.


20 posted on 05/08/2006 7:35:33 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: zaxxon
Remember the McMartin child-molestation case in California, decades ago?

The prosecutors manipulated the kids so deftly that their imaginations went absolutely wild: eventually, they were claiming they were raped by scissors, that an evil doll had raped them, that they had donned robes, descended into a magic chamber where they were made to rip the wings off birds....

Counselors also withheld water from thristy kids in "interviews" (interrogations), and later permitted them to slake their thirst after they had given them what they were after.

Some of the minutes of these interrogations are either horrifying, or completely hilarious, it's hard to decide which.

THAT'S THE POWER OF THE STATE.

21 posted on 05/08/2006 7:36:54 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Cicero

The police had good reason to doubt the allegations she made.If the DA had an ounce of decency he would have waited for more evidence before charging the two athletes with rape.He should be disbarred and the accuser should be arrested if the charges turn out to be fraudulent.


22 posted on 05/08/2006 7:37:00 PM PDT by rdcorso (There Is No Such Thing As A Neutral Person During A War With Radical Islam.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Why are we hearing about this now, instead of early on?

It is the secret evidence that Nifong has been holding back to spring on the defense!

23 posted on 05/08/2006 7:40:14 PM PDT by LK44-40
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To: Skyrocket153

In other words, white guilt knows no bounds.


24 posted on 05/08/2006 7:51:00 PM PDT by Dionysius (ACLU is the enemy)
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To: Cognoscenti247

Kind of like The Bonfire of the Vanities but without the great ending.


25 posted on 05/08/2006 7:53:53 PM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: zaxxon

I'll say it and I don't care if I get slammed for it. The minute I heard the word rape and stripper in the same sentence, I figured it was BS. I was right.

Too many people (even here on FR) were too quick to believe this story. It should have been looked at skeptically from the start.


26 posted on 05/08/2006 7:56:47 PM PDT by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toilet)
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To: zaxxon

>>Also, no mention of the bathroom or broomstick in the initial allegation.....

Nor in the search warrant, neither in items to look for, nor in the inventory of items taken. It's online at TheSmokingGun.com.


27 posted on 05/08/2006 8:00:18 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: bray

And if the do lie, well, they only did it because whitey made them.


28 posted on 05/08/2006 8:04:06 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Even if she wasn't raped, she was still being held down by The Man!

Pray for W and Our Troops


29 posted on 05/08/2006 8:05:35 PM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: FreedomPoster



"the woman initially told police she was raped by 20 white men"

See, they were right to pass out posters of the whole team!
(sarc/off)


30 posted on 05/08/2006 8:07:38 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: zaxxon

I wonder if the "proper" jury panel will be called up? If so these kids are toast.


31 posted on 05/08/2006 8:12:22 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: bray
The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press'

I can think of many things that are lower than Bush's numbers besides the press. The first thing that comes to mind is the congress. And it's down hill from there.

32 posted on 05/08/2006 8:17:46 PM PDT by Balata
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To: bray

33 posted on 05/08/2006 8:18:23 PM PDT by Hoodat ( Silly Dems, AYBABTU.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Election!


34 posted on 05/08/2006 8:21:10 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Cognoscenti247

Ditto!


35 posted on 05/08/2006 8:22:27 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Cicero

Three were charged?


36 posted on 05/08/2006 8:24:04 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Hoodat

Homey don't play dat!

Pray for W and Our Troops


37 posted on 05/08/2006 8:25:33 PM PDT by bray (The only thing lower than Bush' numbers are the press')
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To: bray

Imagine : 20 guys involved and they managed to leave no DNA!
I'm sure the CIA would be interested to find out how they did that...


38 posted on 05/08/2006 8:32:48 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: CondorFlight
And this is exactly why all of them refused to talk. The press has crucified them because the whole team shut up and wouldn't talk.

They knew (and their lawyers) that this skank was going to have to pick out three of them. Talking would have only given the DA better clues on which to pick, i.e. who was there, not there, in the kitchen, in the bathroom, etc. I'm glad they all kept quiet. She's picked at least one with a sound alibi. It was a crap shoot and they were all game.
39 posted on 05/08/2006 8:34:47 PM PDT by VA40
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To: gaijin
Remember the McMartin child-molestation case in California, decades ago?

Yeah. Right in the middle of that case falling apart, idiotic radio host Carole Hemmingway kept insisting that the charges were true because "children NEVER lie." She kept repeating that over and over again. Made me laugh. Yeah, children NEVER Lie. Riiiiiiight.

40 posted on 05/08/2006 8:39:39 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: MizSterious

Then you get the rape shield law preventing innocent men from defending themselves from deranged people.


41 posted on 05/08/2006 8:40:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: toldyou

Sorry, two were charged and he hopes to charge a third person.


42 posted on 05/08/2006 8:48:43 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: longtermmemmory

MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE

Three men will rape a stripper with a broom in the bathroom of a small home - with another stripper and 45 guys in the immediate area - leaving no DNA, and getting no injuries while they strangle and beat the stripper.

That's a story only Wendy Murphy and drunken strippers would believe.


43 posted on 05/08/2006 8:53:28 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: Cicero

Thanks. I've been away for a week and thought I had missed something.

Then again....the accuser seems to have been given a "right" to change her story.....a few times....


44 posted on 05/08/2006 8:53:46 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: David Allen

Wendy Murphy, Nancy Grace, and Kimberly Guilfoyle!

Which one is the real idiot?


45 posted on 05/08/2006 8:56:42 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: toldyou

Why would I ask such a question?

The answer is all three.


46 posted on 05/08/2006 8:58:15 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Cognoscenti247

Since Duke is as politically correct as any institution it will now proceed into an orgy of self-flaggelation and abnegation with the appointment of a woman to led it and more women higher ups hired.

The feminists will make out like bandits and the institution will suffer. But sinee it is already ballless it deserves what it will get.


47 posted on 05/08/2006 9:05:00 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Skyrocket153

why????

As I've grown older its become apparent that we cannot escape who we are. This has been good in my family as the sheep come back from straying and assume their rightful places as good citizens and lovers of God.

To want to be other than what one is is to cheat oneself of joy.


48 posted on 05/08/2006 9:17:07 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (Islam Schmislam blahblahblah, enough already!)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
I wonder if the "proper" jury panel will be called up? If so these kids are toast.

That is my fear as well.

49 posted on 05/08/2006 9:54:13 PM PDT by Shelayne (Antique Media--losing value everyday...)
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To: toldyou

They're all three nuts! Speaking of nuts, they've never met a pair they didn't wish they had.


50 posted on 05/08/2006 9:59:11 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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