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6-Year-Old Fla. Girl Charged With Felony For Kicking Teacher's Aide
Local6.com ^ | May 31, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 05/31/2006 10:41:25 AM PDT by Nachum

NAPLES, Fla. -- A 6-year-old special education student who kicked a Naples teacher's aide and spent several hous in juvenile jail is facing felony battery charges.

Her mother, however, wants to know why the case has gone so far.

Takovia Allen suffers from behavioral problems and attends a special class at Lely Elementary in Naples.

According to an arrest report, on May 2, a teacher was trying to line up students to go to music class. Takovia refused to go and kicked the teacher's aide in the ankle.

After a discussion among school officials and two law enforcement officials called to the school, the girl was arrested.

Takovia was taken to juvenile jail and held there for several hours before being released to her mother.

She is being charged with battery on a public education employee.

It's possible she will enter a program that includes counseling. If she completes the program successfully the charges could be dropped.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 6yearold; aide; charged; education; felony; fla; girl; kicking; teacher; with

1 posted on 05/31/2006 10:41:30 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

In case anyone was wondering whether or not the edukayshun and (so called) legal system was completely and utterly broken ...


2 posted on 05/31/2006 10:42:41 AM PDT by mgc1122
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To: Nachum

My wife works daycare with behavioral 'issues' children.
If they arrested every little kid who kicked, bit, punched, or slapped the teachers aides, there wouldn't be any kids in there!


3 posted on 05/31/2006 10:44:52 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Oh No! Zombies!" Actually, they aren't. They just haven't had their coffee yet.)
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To: Nachum

I fully expected to read about a tazing in this story.


4 posted on 05/31/2006 10:45:13 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
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To: mgc1122
Welcome to Sunny Florida!
5 posted on 05/31/2006 10:45:23 AM PDT by guitar4jesus (Black Conservative . . . I think, I vote!)
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To: Nachum

I'm torn.

The one side sees this as completely stupid and as such should be dropped ASAP.

The other side sees this as completely stupid and should be pushed as far as possible to make the point that the school system in this country is in need of serious help.


6 posted on 05/31/2006 10:46:16 AM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: Nachum

Takovia?

Hmmm.....


7 posted on 05/31/2006 10:47:47 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Nachum

I don't think we're getting the full story here.


8 posted on 05/31/2006 10:52:27 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Nachum

My wife held the same position as a teachers aide working with Special Ed and Autistic kids. Getting bit, scratched, struck or kicked happened every day. She had a desk thrown at her and was once stabbed with an ink pen by a 15 year old girl. The little girl obviously has a problem or she wouldn't be in Special Ed and is probably already under counseling of some sort. This teachers aide is in the wrong business and should get out immediately.


9 posted on 05/31/2006 10:54:58 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Nachum

My wife held the same position as a teachers aide working with Special Ed and Autistic kids. Getting bit, scratched, struck or kicked happened every day. She had a desk thrown at her and was once stabbed with an ink pen by a 15 year old girl. The little girl obviously has a problem or she wouldn't be in Special Ed and is probably already under counseling of some sort. This teachers aide is in the wrong business and should get out immediately.


10 posted on 05/31/2006 10:55:24 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: Nachum
In my life, I have made the following observations:

1) Special Needs students are unpredictable, and may sometimes behave inappropriately.
2) Six-year-olds unpredictable, and may sometimes behave inappropriately.
3) Six-year-old Special Needs students are unpredictable, and may sometimes behave inappropriately.

And my new conclusion:

If you're going to call every such offense a felony, well, to praphrase Brody: "You're gonna need a bigger prison."

11 posted on 05/31/2006 10:56:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: mad puppy
lol.

My guess is these "educators" have been wanting this child in counseling, or another program; the child's parent may not be cooperating. This may be attempt for the school to get their way on some issue they have this child.

12 posted on 05/31/2006 10:57:28 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Nachum
This is just too depressing. . .when you think it cannot get worse. . .thanks to a Liberal; it just has.

Child has not even reached the considered. . 'age of reason'. . .

Aide probably deserved it. . .and I would like to give one to the teacher, herself. AND the principal. . .

Rediculous/OMG scream/

13 posted on 05/31/2006 11:17:31 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal Free. . .or suffer the consequences. . .)
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To: Boxsford
the child's parent may not be cooperating. This may be attempt for the school to get their way on some issue they have this child.

If there is an unaddressed issue with the child. . .the MAKE the parent accountable, for God's sake.

The child here should not be reaping a punishment from what the parent has sown; albeit; even if the child's teacher's are. . .

14 posted on 05/31/2006 11:20:50 AM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal Free. . .or suffer the consequences. . .)
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To: Boxsford
"My guess is these "educators" have been wanting this child in counseling, or another program; the child's parent may not be cooperating. This may be attempt for the school to get their way on some issue they have this child."


Then the parents need to homeschool. People sometimes forget that special is tacked on to everything from stuttering to vegetative states. Not enough information has been given to make a judgment.
15 posted on 05/31/2006 11:21:45 AM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: after dark
"Then the parents need to homeschool. People sometimes forget that special is tacked on to everything from stuttering to vegetative states. Not enough information has been given to make a judgment."

The age of the child (6) and the alleged "crime" (kicking a teacher's aid in the shin), are all I need to know. An arrest of a six year old would never, ever have happened in any other time in U.S. history, except in these twisted times we live in. The police dispatcher would laugh and tell the teacher to smack the child back. This insignificant situation with a special needs little girl who has barely graduated from potty training should never have been a police matter.

16 posted on 05/31/2006 11:39:19 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: after dark
I agree that not enough information is known about this particular situation. "Special needs" is painted with a pretty broad brush these days. However if this child is autistic,"counseling" is a joke. And medicating can be hit or miss. Speaking from personal experience,it could be the teachers or their aides don't have the training or the personality to deal with what is true special needs.

And homeschooling isn't as simple as some think. There are costs incurrred that some people can't handle. Not to mention the time involved. The public education system needs an overhaul. But I don't see it happening anytime soon.

17 posted on 05/31/2006 11:44:05 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: Boxsford

Yep. I'm guessing there is something ugly beneath the surface of this one.


18 posted on 05/31/2006 11:45:43 AM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: TheCrusader

Absolutely. A kick in the shin, while inappropriate is NOT a felony. This could have been dealt with without dialing 911.


19 posted on 05/31/2006 11:47:16 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: Sue Perkick

Medicating a really out-of-control kid into some semblance of normalcy is often not possible, but I don't think we should hesitate to keep kids sedated if they pose any real physical danger to staff or other students. And kids with incompatible problems should be in separate programs, not all thrown together. I was talking to an old friend from college the other day, who now works as a special ed teacher at the elementary level. She's got one kid (autistic and barely verbal) who simply hits people to get their attention; and another kid who has a brain shunt and really must NOT be hit in the head. If there isn't a separate program available little Miss Hitter, she should be attending "school" only under the influence of a strong sedative.


20 posted on 05/31/2006 2:30:02 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I never was a fan of mandatory mainstreaming. I appreciate the intent. But I don't have a problem with special education schools. There can be some serious compatibility issues that come from both sides. The public school system is broken. And I'm not even sure it can be repaired at this point.
21 posted on 05/31/2006 5:43:45 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: Hatteras
I know! If I had a name like that, I'd be kicking everyone around. And my parents named me Georgia, for Pete's sake.
22 posted on 05/31/2006 5:57:33 PM PDT by grellis (will do dishes for tagline)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>If you're going to call every such offense a felony,well, to paraphrase Brody, "You're going to need a bigger prison."<

And more potty chairs.


23 posted on 05/31/2006 6:35:30 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: Sue Perkick

Sometimes it's not clear what the intent of mainstreaming is. The effect in some cases is to provide some incremental benefit to a severely impaired child who will never be remotely self-sufficient, at great expense to a number of normal children who very much need a good education. The most outlandish case I've heard of was a few years back (in NJ, I think) -- there was a severely mentally and physically impaired girl attending a regular elementary school class in a wheelchair, accompanied by a full time nursing aide (at taxpayer expense, of course), and disrupting the class significantly. And for what? The girl was attending school with a DO NOT RESUSCITATE ORDER PINNED TO HER CLOTHES!!!! She wasn't expected to live long, had a history of cardiac arrests, and the decision had been made to let her go whenever the next one hit. It's hard to imagine what is going through the minds of parents and school officials when they allow this sort of insanity to go on. They seem to have completely lost sight of the purpose of school.


24 posted on 05/31/2006 7:20:01 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Nachum

With the Internet, homeschool education packages, and retired teachers offering tutoring services, it should be easy for anyone to homeschool.


25 posted on 05/31/2006 7:22:16 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

One would think. One would be wrong. There are state laws to adhere to,(some states are much worse than others) records to keep and standardized tests that must be done. It ain't free. It ain't cheap. And it dang sure ain't "easy". And if the public school system wasn't the travesty it is, it wouldn't even be necessary.


26 posted on 05/31/2006 7:38:35 PM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I knew a woman who had two autistic boys. The special education teachers took her aside and told her the boys would be better off being schooled at home. Special education puts to many kids with severe behavioral problems in one room together. This practice brings out the worst in all the students. Fortunately for her although her boys were noticeably autistic they were educable.
27 posted on 05/31/2006 8:02:42 PM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: Sue Perkick

I would not say that mainstreaming is a bad thing. I could make a case that some of the "special" students do not need to be segregated. I knew of one person in special education for stuttering and nothing else.


28 posted on 05/31/2006 9:23:13 PM PDT by after dark (I love hateful people. They help me unload karmic debt.)
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To: after dark
Exactly. It should be a case by case thing. Some kids will excel when mainstreamed. Others not so much and they end up regressing. Some kids have been given the "special needs" label when there's no cause for that. Your example is a good one. A child who stutters should not be in a special needs setting. But they seem to herd everybody together without any thought to what is best for all involved.

It may be different depending on the location. But where I'm from regardless of the child's development, if there is a diagnosis of autism that child is required to be mainstreamed. Ridiculous. Then they add unqualifed staff to the mix & wonder why there are problems.

29 posted on 06/01/2006 6:09:24 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
While I'm not familiar with this case, it does sound like this child would have benefitted more from some type of in-home program. It doesn't appear she was getting anything out of it herself. They need to do what's right for everyone. The "neurotypical" kids need an education and we can't just shove the ones who do have special needs aside. They are going to be part of the community as well, and it's to everyone's advantage that they be functioning, contributing members of society. Constant disruption impairs the ability to learn. So that's not fair. At the moment the system seems to be just pushing them all through without concern whether anyone is really even getting an education.
30 posted on 06/01/2006 6:51:07 AM PDT by Sue Perkick (...heavy strings, tune low, play hard and floor it. Floor it. That's technical talk....)
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