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5 teens killed in New Orleans shootout
AP ^ | 6/17/06 | CAIN BURDEAU

Posted on 06/17/2006 11:17:49 AM PDT by LdSentinal

NEW ORLEANS - Five people ranging in age from 16 to 19 were killed in a street shooting early Saturday, the most violent crime reported in this slowly repopulating city since Hurricane Katrina hit last August.

All were believed to have been gunned down while inside a sport utility vehicle that was found rammed against a utility pole in the Central City neighborhood just outside the central business district.

Authorities said they were looking for one or more suspects but did not elaborate.

Capt. John Bryson said police think the shootings were either drug-related or some type of retaliation attack.

"I think the motivation we're looking at is pretty obvious," he said. "Somebody wanted them dead."

Bryson said he could not remember the last time this many people were killed in once incident — before or after Katrina. "I can't remember five," he said.

Four of the victims — a 16-year-old, a 17-year-old and two 19-year-olds — died at the scene. Another 19-year-old, believed to be the brother of the youngest victim, died later at a hospital, police said.

There was no immediate word if any of the victims had been armed. Their identities were not immediately released.


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1 posted on 06/17/2006 11:17:54 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

NO is a quagmire.


2 posted on 06/17/2006 11:19:48 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: LdSentinal

Glad to hear life there is returning to normal.


3 posted on 06/17/2006 11:20:11 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: LdSentinal

Live like savages, die like savages. Triumph of the Great Society and the welfare state.


4 posted on 06/17/2006 11:20:33 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: LdSentinal

The answer of course is to make sure there is only enough housing so that contributing members of society are the only people able to return. That would mean rebuilding Lakeview.


5 posted on 06/17/2006 11:20:54 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: LdSentinal
Capt. John Bryson said police think the shootings were either drug-related or some type of retaliation attack.

"I think the motivation we're looking at is pretty obvious," he said. "Somebody wanted them dead."

Captain Jack got this all figgered out!

6 posted on 06/17/2006 11:21:07 AM PDT by don-o
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To: LdSentinal
Repopulating with the former criminals. This is the typical age group for gang bangers. There isn't enough info in the article to clearly state that is the case.
7 posted on 06/17/2006 11:21:56 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: LdSentinal

Let me guess, a Caddilac Escalade???? Wide rims skinny tires, spinning hub rims? Possibly drugs? Geeze am I stereo typing here? Thats what my mind's eye sees on the surface.


8 posted on 06/17/2006 11:23:56 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft
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To: don-o

It looks like a mop and pail will be standard police issue down there now.


I'm sure the solution will be "more gun control".


Such a waste.


9 posted on 06/17/2006 11:24:09 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: OldFriend
NO is a quagmire.

Maybe Murtha and Kerry can help set up a timetable for U.S. withdrawal from N.O.!
10 posted on 06/17/2006 11:24:12 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: OldFriend

We need an exit strategy.


11 posted on 06/17/2006 11:24:33 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Without a monkey, "You are nothing, absolutely zero. Absolutely nothing.")
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To: LdSentinal

Mogadishu on the Mississippi.


12 posted on 06/17/2006 11:26:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: LdSentinal

I think the U.S. should pull out of New Orleans. Too dangerous. We must withdraw.


13 posted on 06/17/2006 11:26:45 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: martin_fierro
Glad to hear life there is returning to normal

This isn't normal. These kids ran into a shooter.

14 posted on 06/17/2006 11:27:23 AM PDT by bad company (The fight will not be the way you want it to be. The fight will be the way it is.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Ford Explorer according to nola.com

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/tpupdates/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_tpupdates/archives/2006_06_17.html#152384


15 posted on 06/17/2006 11:27:23 AM PDT by cajun scpo ([facts matter])
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To: LdSentinal
George Bush's fault

Someone had to say it.

16 posted on 06/17/2006 11:28:44 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Probably playing rap music.


17 posted on 06/17/2006 11:29:14 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: LdSentinal

No drugs were involved. /s


18 posted on 06/17/2006 11:30:13 AM PDT by zarf (John Edwards is a horses ass.)
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To: LdSentinal

Welcome to the "Chocolate" City.


19 posted on 06/17/2006 11:30:23 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Former SAC Trained Killer)
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To: LdSentinal
"I think the motivation we're looking at is pretty obvious," he said. "Somebody wanted them dead."

How can you say something like this with a straight face in front of the public? What a idiotic statemen. Somebody shoots the crap out of these guys and he says that he believes somebody wanted them dead. No sh** Sherlock!

20 posted on 06/17/2006 11:30:33 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: LdSentinal

I see than gangs are fully in control in NOLA again...


21 posted on 06/17/2006 11:30:42 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: dfwgator

That's a bit unfair, uptown has remained as it's always been. You don't see this shootouts in rich areas, now do you. Haven't seen any news of crime among the ruins of Lakeview either, or the ruins of St. Bernard Parish. The crimes are all happening in what were in the former New Orleans, ghettoes often capped off by housing projects. It's not happening in the nice areas, so it's unfair to judge the whole city based by what people who used to live in the projects are currently doing.


22 posted on 06/17/2006 11:31:39 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: LdSentinal

Nutty Nagin is getting his "chocolate city" back, with a little strawberry sauce spread over the corpses for flavor..


Semper Fi


23 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:18 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: LdSentinal
Capt. John Bryson said police think the shootings were either drug-related or some type of retaliation attack.

Boy, you can't put anything over on Capt. Bryson!
Well at least the situation in Houston is getting better.

24 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:24 AM PDT by thegreatbeast (Perhaps one)
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To: LdSentinal

The Second Amendment enables Darwin. An armed society is a polite society. Democracy is the rule of fools by fools.


25 posted on 06/17/2006 11:36:42 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: LdSentinal

Reduce law enforcement presence.


26 posted on 06/17/2006 11:38:16 AM PDT by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The crimes are all happening in what were in the former New Orleans, ghettoes often capped off by housing projects.

Ahem, I think that's the whole point of what we're saying.

27 posted on 06/17/2006 11:38:32 AM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: thegreatbeast
"I think the motivation we're looking at is pretty obvious," he said. "Somebody wanted them dead."


28 posted on 06/17/2006 11:38:56 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: Always A Marine

If the dems had their way the whole USA would be one NOLA-like cesspool.


29 posted on 06/17/2006 11:39:26 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: LdSentinal

if only FEMA had arrived sooner....


30 posted on 06/17/2006 11:39:43 AM PDT by isom35
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To: TheBattman

Did they even leave?


31 posted on 06/17/2006 11:41:42 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: calex59
How can you say something like this with a straight face in front of the public?

I'd cut him some slack. He did say this to "journalists". You could keeping hitting what passes for "journalists"
nowadays over the head with reality and facts till the end of time, and it still wouldn't sink in.

32 posted on 06/17/2006 11:42:21 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: AzaleaCity5691

People's [and their doings'] visibility and importance in determining the character and "physiognomy" of a place need not, and do not, correspond to their numbers. Thus fairness has nothing to do with it.
This shooting was [not necessarily fairly - and it does not matter] taken as adequately representing the essence of "new orleanity". Al Capone was not Chicago, either.


33 posted on 06/17/2006 11:42:42 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Let me guess, a Caddilac Escalade???? Wide rims skinny tires, spinning hub rims? Possibly drugs? Geeze am I stereo typing here? Thats what my mind's eye sees on the surface.

I too have noticed an increase in roving gangs of Scandinavians shooting up our cities in a desperate plea for jobs, educational oportunities and free lutefisk for oppressed minorities. We need to be more sensitive.

34 posted on 06/17/2006 11:47:45 AM PDT by Random Access
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To: Always A Marine

No, the insuation that I have picked up is, all of New Orleans was a ghetto, when it was not. That 30% white population, almost none of that was poor. New Orleans before the storm had the distinction of being America's only major city with more people in private school than public school. The white areas of New Orleans tended to be more affluent than white areas in the metro at large, because people had extra expenses there they wouldn't in the suburbs. Many of those houses in Lakeview were fairly small, and you could get more for your money in the burbs, but people chose to live there because they wanted to be close to work, they could afford to send their kids to Catholic school, and often times, they had long family ties to the area. When we lived there, you could go into certain areas, and find that people were all somehow extended family, it was really close-knit.

What I have a problem with is when the whole city of New Orleans is judged by the actions of some trash out in the projects who do not serve as a representation of the whole city. It still costs you an arm and a leg to live in the Quarter, and living in Uptown has not really been all that cheap. In Uptown too, you find generation after generation who continously make a home there, and they are completely a world apart from the vagabonds you'd see walking around if you went too far in the wrong direction down Desire Street.


35 posted on 06/17/2006 11:48:26 AM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: LdSentinal

Looks like the barbarians have moved back in.

And I thought they were all in Houston!


36 posted on 06/17/2006 11:48:32 AM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

OH- and many in Lakeview are scared! There is no way Lakeview will be allowed to remain all white and all upper class. NO way. When big plots of land are bought by the government- there WILL be subsidized housing.
I'm surprised Jesse's group isn't buying property- or maybe they are an no one knows it yet. Section 8 WILL be in Lakeview. And it's odd- you'd think that putting poor blacks into a neighborhood that was 12ft under water would be considered dangerous!

NOTHING- and I mean NOTHING will ever be as it was in N.O.- except the 'culture'- which is what the shooting was about.
The tribal , criminal culture is back.
The only hope for N.O. is to make it a timeshare only, tourist destination/resort. Closed 6 months of every year. Then only the tourist areas would be needed and a shanty town of low-income workers to keep it running. The very rich can have one of many homes here, and the moderately rich can have corporate apts and temporary residences for 'Fest' times and Mardi Gras.
There will be NO middle class- IF one more storm doesn't wash everything into the Gulf once and for all. New Orleans is dead- it's just that the life support hasn't been turned off yet.


37 posted on 06/17/2006 12:01:20 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: LdSentinal

I wonder if this is a case of home-grown gangbangers coming home and being confronted by Hispanic gang members. It's not just roofers and sheetrock workers coming into New Orleans...


38 posted on 06/17/2006 12:03:05 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Free Travis!)
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To: dfwgator

Ouch! I like that one. Maybe it will stick.


39 posted on 06/17/2006 12:04:44 PM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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To: LdSentinal

I'm waiting for someone to post a picture of a possible suspect.

Looter guy.


40 posted on 06/17/2006 12:05:02 PM PDT by JRochelle
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To: rottndog
Excellent point,maybe we should ask Tim russert to ask that question the next time they show up on Meet the depressed.
41 posted on 06/17/2006 12:06:40 PM PDT by samantha (cheer up, the Adults are in charge,but need Reserves really fast)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Pardon- but there is a lot of crime in Lakeview-and Uptown.
Looters are stealing everything they can out of houses being repaired. The usual criminals can't carjack or hold up any residents of Lakeview-because they're GONE. Criminals go where there are people to rob. Ask around the Marigny!
And Uptown is a lot of fancy houses on the Avenue, behind which are some of the worst neighborhoods imaginable. My nephew is an EMT, he lives uptown. Thought it was no big deal. Now he's planning to get out. Nothing like waking up to a dead body in front of your door- and bullet holes in your house- to really ruin that 'Garden District' fantasy.


42 posted on 06/17/2006 12:07:04 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: Random Access

I think I've seen them too. Do they shout something that sounds like "Uf-da"?


43 posted on 06/17/2006 12:07:13 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
"What I have a problem with is when the whole city of New Orleans is judged by the actions of some trash out in the projects who do not serve as a representation of the whole city."

As in many cities, the good parts of New Orleans are truly excellent. And as in many cities, the bad parts of New Orleans are truly awful. The comments you find so offensive reflect the disappointment of some, including me, that NO's trash element is returning. I had hoped -- and still hope -- that most of the low-lying sections (and therefore cheapest and most rundown) will not be rebuilt, and that the remaining properties will be too expensive (due to scarcity) for the worst of NO's former population to live in. That would be Katina's silver lining.

45 posted on 06/17/2006 12:07:59 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: Palladin

The Brady Bunch will count these dead hooligans as "children" killed by guns.


46 posted on 06/17/2006 12:08:21 PM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The answer of course is to reverse the pumps and plant Lake New Oleans with Striper.


47 posted on 06/17/2006 12:11:37 PM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: Always A Marine

"As in many cities, the good parts of New Orleans are truly excellent. And as in many cities, the bad parts of New Orleans are truly awful. The comments you find so offensive reflect the disappointment of some, including me, that NO's trash element is returning. I had hoped -- and still hope -- that most of the low-lying sections (and therefore cheapest and most rundown) will not be rebuilt, and that the remaining properties will be too expensive (due to scarcity) for the worst of NO's former population to live in. That would be Katina's silver lining."

See, I do agree with that, and I think in the end, that's what's going to happen. No matter what Nagin told all the evacuees to get their votes, demolitions are still proceeding in the ghetto areas, people who voted for him are probably returning home right now to find he had their house bulldozed. I actually trust Nagin more than Landrieu on this, cause Nagin to a degree, has always been more tuned into the wishes of the city's affluent than Landrieu's have. I think Landrieu would have made a serious effort to bring every evacuee home because that would have suited his future political ambitions of winning higher statewide office, something hindered when his old base is in Houston and Atlanta. I do think some evacuees will return, but New Orleans won't go back to what it was before


48 posted on 06/17/2006 12:12:48 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (6-6-06 A victory for reason)
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To: LdSentinal

49 posted on 06/17/2006 12:20:08 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Please don't take this the wrong way, but take what your saying and magnify it and you get all of Louisiana.

I am originally from the Lake Charles area. My whole life people who knew I was from Louisiana would ask me when they heard something about NOLA. It was always bad. Always.

Nobody outside of LA has any clue about the rest of the state. Maybe 25% have heard or Shreveport or Baton Rouge, but only because the drove along I20 or watched their team play LSU. So every time something bad makes national news out of NOLA, most seem to assume that goes for the whole state. So for you to try and say it's not fair because problems in the ninth ward shouldn't reflect badly on Lakeview or the Quarter is a little naive.

The rest of the country thinks that all of LA is either swamp or ghetto/gangbanger territory. Well, that and everybody outside NOLA is named Boudreaux or Thibodeaux and their kids take a pirouge (pronounced 'pee row' not 'pee rogee') to shcool.

It's kind of like how I don't know anything about Michigan except Detroit is crime ridden cess pitt and the University of Michigan is really good at football. Well...


50 posted on 06/17/2006 12:25:20 PM PDT by Comstock1 (If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer Henry point 45 caliber miracle.)
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