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Posted on 06/21/2006 12:42:18 PM PDT by digger121

I dont get it. I keep hearing from people that welfare is immoral and wasteful when it helps so many people who would die without it. I also hear some of them talking about giving money to charities such as the salvation army and the like. Everyone has a right to live, that means the right to freedom, a job, a car and a home. No one should be forced to live without any of those. I was homeless for a year before a went on welfare. They helped me get a job and a home and I dont need it anymore! How can you be against somthing thats so good and useful? WOuld you rather the poor just starve to death and die here in America like they do in Africa?


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To: TSchmereL

I'm sure I'm wasting my time. A liberal's biggest failing is the inability to think anything through to a conclusion.

Take tax policy for instance. Liberals high tax approach would work if whenever you earned a dollar, you created that dollar and every time you spent it that dollar was destroyed.

But if you think in through completely you realize that earning a dollar does not create that dollar. You are only exchanging it.

By keeping taxes low that dollar gets exchanged more often.

Simple.


51 posted on 06/21/2006 1:22:55 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: digger121
what does Ibtz mean?

It means Dr. Kavorkian is coming over for a visit!

52 posted on 06/21/2006 1:40:04 PM PDT by Doomonyou (FR doesn't suffer fools lightly.)
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To: CougarGA7
I once got into an argument about environmental and economic issues with a gentleman named Mr. Marx.

I am not making this up.

Mr. Marx is an actual 31 year-old left-wing "organizer" in Washington, D.C. He has been arrested many times during protests and you can search for news stories about him on the Internet. "Marx" "Washington" "Protester" etc.

Mr. Marx looked at me with a straight face and said "Zero sum game? I have heard that expression before. What does that mean?"

I was interrupted by someone else before I could tell him that a "zero sum game" is one in which players make payments only to each other, one player's loss is the other player's gain, and the total amount of "money" available remains constant.

To this day, I still wonder if Mr. Marx ever learned what a "zero sum game" is.
53 posted on 06/21/2006 1:49:48 PM PDT by TSchmereL ("Rust but terrify.")
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To: digger121

You're still around? IBTZ!!!


54 posted on 06/21/2006 1:52:22 PM PDT by bcsco (KOs = KOincidence of KOmmie KOrruption!)
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To: digger121

Whew, that was a close one, but I made it IBTZ!


55 posted on 06/21/2006 1:53:35 PM PDT by MountainDad
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To: digger121
I keep hearing from people that welfare is immoral and wasteful when it helps so many people who would die without it.

I am sorry but your application to join Free Republic has been denied. You must be smarter then this rock to post here.

Welfare is immoral because it degrades the person to whom it is given. (well not you apparently but most normal people) That it is wasteful is evident.

That people would die without it is subject to dispute.

56 posted on 06/21/2006 1:56:18 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The bottom 60% does 40% of the work, the top 40% does 60% of the work. Just who are the "workers"?)
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To: dfwgator
You forgot about the right to cable TV.

Don't be ridiculous--you only have a right to basic cable.

57 posted on 06/21/2006 1:57:20 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: digger121

Mr. Digger, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


58 posted on 06/21/2006 1:57:40 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

Billy Madison?


59 posted on 06/21/2006 1:58:37 PM PDT by MountainDad
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To: MountainDad

Yep, I love pulling that one out for the zot threads.


60 posted on 06/21/2006 1:59:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: dfwgator

It's perfect for that!


61 posted on 06/21/2006 2:01:02 PM PDT by MountainDad
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To: digger121
Welfare should be a very temporary matter unless the people are severely physically or mentally handicapped.

IMO, too many live off of it because they can.

Even more refuse to work because they can barely earn more than minimum wage and figure they would rather be on a couch watching Oprah, being fed for free and given lodging vouchers rather than earning their way.

IMO, I would create tents for such people where they have no privacy and little comfort.
I would have on site a tent that has people who can train these people to interview, have at least some bare minimum skills and I would not allow them any right to sue the government if they are on our nickle.

I think welfare is slavery to the human spirit and we need to kick some people in the butt to get going.

I don't know why people expect they have some right to their own place to live for free. Even if they have to share a place with three other families, they should never shun work, have respect for a job and themselves and make their own life rather than mooch off of other's paychecks.

Thou Shall NOT Covet Thy Neighbor's Goods!

62 posted on 06/21/2006 2:08:44 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TSchmereL

Unbelievable. That level of ignorance should be certifiable.


63 posted on 06/21/2006 2:11:19 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: digger121

64 posted on 06/21/2006 2:17:58 PM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: digger121

And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

Charity and welfare the same thing? I dont think so.


65 posted on 06/21/2006 2:22:13 PM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: digger121

We, the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help
everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more
riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior and secure the
blessings of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great
grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some
common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden,
delusional liberal, commie, pinko bedwetters.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that a whole lot of people were
confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of
No Rights.

BILL OF NO RIGHTS

ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any
other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them,
but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country
is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone-not just you!
You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion,
etc., but the World is full of idiots, and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick
a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the
tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently
wealthy.

ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing.
Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly
help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing
generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve
nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional
couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be
nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in
health care.

ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people.
If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don't be
surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others.
If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens,
don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a
place where you still won't have the right to a big-screen color TV or a
life of leisure.

ARTICLE VII: You don't have the right to demand that our children risk
their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate
oppressive governments and won't lift a finger to stop you from going to
fight if you'd like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world
and do not want to spend a lot of our time battling each and every little
tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

ARTICLE VIII: You don't have the right to a job. All of us sure want
all of you to have one, and will gladly help you along in hard times; but
we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and
vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

ARTICLE X: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American
means that you have the right to pursue happiness - which, by the way,
is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an overabundance of idiotic
laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.


66 posted on 06/21/2006 2:24:09 PM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: digger121
You are an idiot.

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67 posted on 06/21/2006 2:25:34 PM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: digger121

In a word, yes. If you have the "right" to that stuff, go do it and stop living off my money you turd.


68 posted on 06/21/2006 2:28:32 PM PDT by SwankyC
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To: digger121; timpad; TBarnett34; MeekOneGOP; PetroniDE; Lady Jag; mhking; glock rocks; Darksheare; ...
Go away, Don't forget to pick up your Government Cheese.
Get off the net you dope!!!

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

69 posted on 06/21/2006 3:17:00 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: darkwing104

And it(digger21, the zottee of the moment) probably votes, too! *sigh*


70 posted on 06/21/2006 3:23:13 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: digger121
They helped me get a job and a home and I dont need it anymore!

We don't have a problem with people using welfare for what it was intended for - we do, however, have a BIG problem with the millions upon millions who were (and are) abusing the system and using welfare as a substitute for an actual JOB.

Oh, what the hell am I trying to explain this to you for?

ZOT



71 posted on 06/21/2006 3:24:53 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: digger121

>Everyone has a right to live, that means the right to freedom, a job, a car and a home. <

Wow, and to think I have worked to pay for these things all these years.


72 posted on 06/21/2006 3:26:52 PM PDT by RSteyn
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To: digger121

73 posted on 06/21/2006 3:28:43 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: All

Ok, so I am in after the zot.
I dont care, I love a good laugh!
BBbbwwwhhhaaaahhaaaaa!!!!!


74 posted on 06/21/2006 3:34:22 PM PDT by carmenbmw (My cats name is Mean. He earned it.)
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To: digger121; darkwing104

75 posted on 06/21/2006 3:38:05 PM PDT by Lady Jag (You can complain because roses have thorns, or you can rejoice because thorns have roses.)
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To: CougarGA7

Yes. I have seen that, and I have also seen someone buy a candy bar with a 20$ food stamp coupon, then take the change and pay for the case of beer IN THE SAME LINE, AT THE SAME TIME... No one said anything.
I go to get my groceries early in the am now, most of these folks arent up yet.


76 posted on 06/21/2006 3:52:05 PM PDT by carmenbmw (My cats name is Mean. He earned it.)
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77 posted on 06/21/2006 3:57:14 PM PDT by kanawa (Freaking panty wetting, weakspined bliss-ninny socialist punks)
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To: digger121

I know what you mean pal, I can't always afford to pay my heating bill so I burn liberals in my fireplace in the winter to keep warm. /s


78 posted on 06/21/2006 4:06:26 PM PDT by MadLibDisease (If there are bribes to be taken and children to be molested, the UN will be there)
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To: digger121

IATZ


79 posted on 06/21/2006 4:12:32 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Thank You Veterans)
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To: darkwing104

yeah! a real troll, i thought they were all dead.


80 posted on 06/21/2006 4:51:09 PM PDT by postaldave (McCain & Bush, you traitorous !#!$!!s. you two are no different then ted kennedy.)
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To: digger121

I am not against helping those who need help. I am against lifelong welfare, generation after generation, and help for illegals who come here just to get welfare. I also am angry that if I or someone in my family needed help, we would be turned down because we are citizens and not from the right ethnic group.


81 posted on 06/21/2006 4:54:22 PM PDT by ladyinred (Liberals are dangerous for America.)
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To: TexasCajun
Do you know you are in the 4.6 percentile?

96.4 people out of 100 are working and you are looking for your neightbors to give you a car and a home and a job!


I know you really meant the 3.6 percentile...
82 posted on 06/21/2006 6:10:38 PM PDT by NonLinear (He's dead, Jim)
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To: digger121
Why bother giving to charity programs then if your against welfare? Its just the same thing isn't it?

So is a mugging, by your logic. Charity is voluntary, welfare taxation is at the point of a gun. Also, there aren't many charities that skim 72% off the top for bureaucratic processing.

83 posted on 06/21/2006 6:30:29 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: digger121
Everyone has a right to live, that means the right to freedom, a job, a car and a home. No one should be forced to live without any of those.

Right to live, fine. The rest? Not on my dime. Get your own job and buy your own stuff if you want it so bad. Good riddance.

84 posted on 06/21/2006 7:45:50 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: dead

Whoa! That's nasty. Warn people first, wouldya?


85 posted on 06/21/2006 7:49:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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86 posted on 06/21/2006 8:25:56 PM PDT by JRios1968 (There's 3 kinds of people in this world...those who know math and those who don't.)
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To: dfwgator

-you forgot high speed internet and cell phones...........


87 posted on 06/21/2006 8:28:37 PM PDT by tioga
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To: digger121
All your Trolls ARE Belong to Us!!!!

ZOT!

PWND!

88 posted on 06/21/2006 8:29:22 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: digger121
yes to all of your questions

LOSER

89 posted on 06/21/2006 9:04:01 PM PDT by RushCrush (Ban stupid people, not dogs!)
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To: digger121
Why bother giving to charity programs then if your against welfare? Its just the same thing isn't it?

Obviously a product of the publik educashun system....

If THIS is an example of the best the left has to offer, there is NO reason the GOP can't increase their majority in both houses of Congress....

90 posted on 06/22/2006 3:14:49 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I've tried to see the liberal point of view, but I couldn't get my head that far up my a$$....)
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To: ladyinred

"I also am angry that if I or someone in my family needed help, we would be turned down because we are citizens and not from the right ethnic group."

Believe it or not, this happened to me. During my lean college years I went to the SS office to try to get on Medicaid. All I wanted was a catastrophic coverage policy. I never got past the front desk. The admin looked at me and said, "Your a white male, you can get along on your own."

I will never forget that. Now, I am very happy that I didn't get any aid, I'd rather tell that story than one of being a successful mooch.


91 posted on 06/22/2006 4:44:51 AM PDT by CSM ("Most men's inappropriate thoughts end as soon as the girl talks..." - Dinsdale, 5/30/06)
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To: digger121
"Everyone has a right to live"??!! Wow, I wonder how the leftists sleep after killing millions of unborn children???

Absolutely amazing... sickening, but amazing. Your name must be Ron; Mo Ron!


92 posted on 06/22/2006 6:55:38 PM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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