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Man's Comment On Check Could Land Him In Jail
KIRO 7 TV ^ | Jun. 27, 2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 06/27/2006 11:50:03 AM PDT by beezdotcom

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To: beezdotcom

Uh huh. Or an English ..., "whatever" :')


51 posted on 06/27/2006 12:18:29 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: beezdotcom

Writing stuff in the memo space that others don't have the balls to write. If he wins, We should all do it.


52 posted on 06/27/2006 12:19:21 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: beezdotcom

Note to self: Better stop writing "For Sexual Favors Provided" in the memo field of all my checks.


53 posted on 06/27/2006 12:20:39 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: beezdotcom
I sent a check with expletives on it once for a speeding ticket when I was like 20 or so. They didn't come after me. It's a right of passage.
54 posted on 06/27/2006 12:20:55 PM PDT by mysterio
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55 posted on 06/27/2006 12:21:57 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: beezdotcom

If the court has a problem with his check, they shouldn't cash it.


56 posted on 06/27/2006 12:21:57 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: wolfcreek
Writing stuff in the memo space that others don't have the balls to write. If he wins, We should all do it.

Better yet, everyone should have one SPECIAL book of checks with that pre-printed in the memo line, for special occasions...
57 posted on 06/27/2006 12:22:40 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: tobyhill
A check is a promissory note but is always the issuers property, that's why checks get returned to the issuer. If a judge doesn't want to take the promise for the money then that's all a judge can do.

So is the dollar bill...

58 posted on 06/27/2006 12:24:46 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: Perdogg
On a lighter note, when the camera cops were first used, a guy in AZ got a ticket in the mail along with a photograph of his car speeding through a red light. The guy mailed the police a photo of two twenty dollar bills ($40 fine). The cops mailed him back a photo of a pair of handcuffs. He paid up!

When I read this story, the first word that came to mind was "tinpot". The judge, the clerks, the civil parasites in general. I hope this man gets out of this trumped up trouble.
59 posted on 06/27/2006 12:26:12 PM PDT by ishabibble
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To: stainlessbanner

See post #17. I would say them cashing it is an admission of guilt.


60 posted on 06/27/2006 12:26:16 PM PDT by sheana
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To: beezdotcom

I went to traffic court many years ago and saw something I had never seen. Some fella was complaining to the judge about his speeding ticket and the judge told him the police never lie. He then asked if the judge knew the cop was sleeping with the judge's wife, and of course the judge said no. So the guy asked the cop if he was and the cop said "No way!" in a really nasty way. The man then gave the judge some pictures, and the case was dismissed. Needless to say, that judge was really upset.My ticket was dismissed 5 seconds after that by the judge as the same cop had written it. I laughed all the way home that day.


61 posted on 06/27/2006 12:29:41 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: beezdotcom

"Your Honor, my contempt is immeasurable. Does that mean you get all of my money?"


62 posted on 06/27/2006 12:30:06 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: beezdotcom

Sometimes it's just better to keep your big mouth shut. Years ago, a guy I knew was paying a speeding ticket and made a reference to a "kangaroo court". He spent the weekend in jail, even though he was right. I got a ticket in that same speed trap, and a few days later, the same cop and court nailed Alexander Solzenitsyn, who was passing through on a book tour. He made some remark about the cops being the same as in the USSR, but instead of throwing him in the jug, they printed the story in the paper.


63 posted on 06/27/2006 12:32:54 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Perdogg
payment is an admission of guilt.

I disagree.

64 posted on 06/27/2006 12:35:59 PM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Protagoras

I have been corrected many times. :)


65 posted on 06/27/2006 12:38:18 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: beezdotcom

I've been tempted to send a $5 check to Hillary Clinton's campaign with "For sexual favors" on the comment line. Not sure of the legality of it but it would sure make a great keepsake if she cashed it.


66 posted on 06/27/2006 12:38:22 PM PDT by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: atomicpossum

"Tell me, your honor, what would be a proper method to express for this court the contempt it so richly deserves?"



That is great. I love it.


67 posted on 06/27/2006 12:44:10 PM PDT by CherylBower
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To: beezdotcom
Richard Eshman, Berkley's public safety director, said Militzer could have requested a hearing to argue against the ticket.

"There's an avenue for protesting that kind of thing," he said.


Sure, but would Militzer be compensated for the time he would spend in court? Would the ticketing officer be fined for court-costs? Would the defendant have to pay more than $10 in court costs just to fight the $10 ticket? Inquiring minds want to know.
68 posted on 06/27/2006 12:46:32 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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To: beezdotcom

if I recall, I think Michigan does have some moldy statute on the books about "public use of profanity". Will be fun to watch them try to enforce it.

His attitude is not un-typical...while living there I found most Michiganders to have a refreshingly blunt and in-your-face attitude. I'm kind of surprised this is the ONLY check that is coming back this way!


69 posted on 06/27/2006 12:49:14 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ozzymandus
Sometimes it's just better to keep your big mouth shut.

Hey, how did you know I have a big mouth? ;-)
70 posted on 06/27/2006 12:49:32 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

Sounds like an opportunity for some novelty check-printer to bring out a line of "Bull---- Money Grab" checks!


71 posted on 06/27/2006 12:50:39 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: beezdotcom

Personally, if I were the one working for the court who had to process that check, I'd send the guy $10 just for being funny...and truthful!


72 posted on 06/27/2006 12:50:50 PM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: geezerwheezer

Send that story to Reader's Digest - you should get paid.


73 posted on 06/27/2006 12:50:54 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Perdogg
payment is an admission of guilt.

Not if the choice is "pay or go to jail." My memo line would have been: "Extortion payment to stay out of jail" or words to that effect.

As to the issue here, though the guy was a bit vulgar, that's his right. This is just a check, and as long as the funds were good the clerk/court shouldn't have a thing to say, officially. This is completely an issue of freedom of the press (since it was in writing); wonder of wonders, the ACLU actually got one right.

74 posted on 06/27/2006 12:51:14 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: beezdotcom
Note to self: resist the urge to ever do the same thing...

Listen to yourself. Been there, done that, got the whoppin' huge fine...

75 posted on 06/27/2006 12:51:41 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up two (2) seats in the Senate and four (4) seats in the House in 2006)
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To: beezdotcom

He should have burned a flag, no fine or problem there...


76 posted on 06/27/2006 12:52:36 PM PDT by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: gridlock
Listen to yourself. Been there, done that, got the whoppin' huge fine...

Not so fast...give!! Details!!
77 posted on 06/27/2006 12:53:18 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

I'm surprised it even got read. When I was in my early 20s I signed my check to the utility company Donald Duck on a dare from a friend. I continued to sign the checks to the utility company the same for over two years and not one of them got returned.


78 posted on 06/27/2006 12:53:27 PM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
Freedom of the Press is the liberty we have to PRINT or WRITE the same.

That's not really accurate. To enjoy "freedom of the press" a person must be considered part of the media. A person who writes a letter to the government is not protected by Freedom of the Press but by Freedom of Speech.

Freedom of speech also is not limited to vocal statements - it also can include writings and actions.

79 posted on 06/27/2006 12:55:44 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: msnimje

Seems to me the memo line is like a note to self to remind the check writer what the check was for. It has no bearing on the receiver of the check.


80 posted on 06/27/2006 12:57:03 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: beezdotcom

I had to have some work done on my little Ford wagon, and wrote a check to the mechanic. My wife was reconciling the bank statement a couple of weeks later, and in an icy tone, inquired about that particular check.

I never wrote "Escort Service" on the memo line again.


81 posted on 06/27/2006 1:06:25 PM PDT by Famishus (I have not lost my mind; it's backed up on disc somewhere.)
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To: JeffAtlanta

So if I do a neighborhood newsletter once that I place on all my neighbors doors, that is not press? I would think that would fall under the freedom of press clause, but I would not be considered part of the media.


82 posted on 06/27/2006 1:08:05 PM PDT by CherylBower
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
Back in the good old United States, using profane or obscene language in public got you jail time.

Gimme a break!
1) I am apparently not THAT old
2) I hardly consider BS that profane or obscene
3) This language was not used in "public" it was written at the bottom of a check.

I have seen and heard profane and obscene language used in public - on the streets of our nations capital to be exact. I find signs and chants saying, "F--K Bush" and "Bush $uck$" far more offensive than BS written at the bottom of a check that 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of the country would never see.

83 posted on 06/27/2006 1:09:36 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: beezdotcom
Not so fast...give!! Details!!

Let me start out by saying this was some time ago, when I was young and stupid (as opposed to being old and stupid, as I am today).

It was your standard violation, expired meter in downtown Pontiac, Michigan. I was a couple of minutes late, and had the pleasure of watching Officer Friendly write the ticket. I was right in front of Municipal Hall, so I went inside to pay the ticket, but they couldn't take my money because the ticket had not yet been processed by the officer.

Needless to say, the ticket went into my glovebox, where I promptly forgot about it. Two weeks later, I get a blistergram from the Pontiac Municipal Court threatening all sorts of dire consequences, up to and including incarceration, if I did not promptly pay them their fine (which was about $10 with a $20 penalty at that point).

Well (I mentioned I was young and stupid, right?), I was offended by the tenor of their letter, so I promptly wrote them a check, but in the memo line wrote (for) A$$holes in Pontiac ______, only without the benefit of the "$" signs.

That probably would not have been too much of a problem, it might have gone unnoticed, but in my haste I forgot to sign the check...

Well, needless to say, I soon had my license suspended, recieved a much larger fine from the Municipal Court, and all sorts of dire threats were made against me and my vehicle. Around about that time, I was moving out of state, anyway, so I wrote an apologetic letter, sent them a new, uneditorialized check for $30, and moved 2000 miles away.

And, no, I have never been back to Pontiac, Michigan...

84 posted on 06/27/2006 1:11:36 PM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up two (2) seats in the Senate and four (4) seats in the House in 2006)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In any sufficiently mature society, "civil servant" is semantically equivalent to "civil master." -- Robert A. Heinlein.

I think we've passed that marker. When the government passes so many laws to cover every conceivable situation and in fact many that conflict with each other, we are caught up in a bureaucratic maze that only lawyers can negotiate, we then become sheeple.

85 posted on 06/27/2006 1:16:24 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Good news is no news.)
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To: Just A Nobody

1) True, you aren't that old
2) BS was considered obscene language at that time
3) Yes, that's public enough


86 posted on 06/27/2006 1:23:01 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

And in the new, conquered USA many things Christ centered will get you the same unless it's used as a form of cursing.


87 posted on 06/27/2006 1:33:31 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: beezdotcom

Uh-oh... If they ever read the memo line on my utility bills, I'm in big trouble.

Any chance Time Warner-AOL won't notice, for instance, last month's payment for Emperor Turner's involuntary retirement party? Or the previous one for the Warner Endowment for Copkilluh Thugz? Or the Liberal Jihad?


88 posted on 06/27/2006 1:40:24 PM PDT by dangus
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To: beezdotcom

I have wanted to do the same thing! Berkley and especialy Royal Oak use parking ticket revenue to run the damn cities.


89 posted on 06/27/2006 1:40:28 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: Newbomb Turk

After 9/11 and the Tsunami, the Red Cross was all over the radio telling people not to write specific disasters in the Memo field of the check. If you were to write Tsunami Relief 2004 or something of that sort, the ARC is forced to use the money for that cause. If everyone did it, they wouldn't have any money to keep operations going.

As explained to me by my friend, a business and finance major, when you fill out the memo field of a check, that is in essence a mini contract that you are entering into with the person who cashes it. By him cashing it, it's as if he agrees that is what the money will be used for. (Come to think of it, I should ask my lawyer brother instead of my business friend).


90 posted on 06/27/2006 1:46:15 PM PDT by samson1097
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To: CherylBower
So if I do a neighborhood newsletter once that I place on all my neighbors doors, that is not press? I would think that would fall under the freedom of press clause, but I would not be considered part of the media.

A newsletter would qualify for Freedom of the Press as you are distributing news, opinions or other information to a group of people. In that one specific case, you would be considered part of the media.

Being written versus spoken does not matter. For example, the Fox News channel enjoys Freedom of the Press protections for their TV newscasts even if they never write a single word.

The rise of blogs and internet sites like Free Republic and Drudge have brought new debate to what constitutes being a member of the "press".

A personal letter, however, would be Freedom of Speech.

91 posted on 06/27/2006 1:47:07 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: beezdotcom

I did the same thing once, in a cryptic sort of way...........


92 posted on 06/27/2006 1:48:28 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.)
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To: Spirited
And in the new, conquered USA many things Christ centered will get you the same unless it's used as a form of cursing.

How many times have you been to jail for anything "Christ centered" that wasn't cursing?

93 posted on 06/27/2006 1:55:11 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: beezdotcom

If that remark constitutes contempt, this court is indeed contemptible. And what about the wussy staffer who first noticed it and referred it up the ladder for more attention. What a waste of protoplasm.


94 posted on 06/27/2006 3:34:36 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: CindyDawg

Nolo Contendre, no doubt.


95 posted on 06/27/2006 3:41:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Perdogg
payment is an admission of guilt.

I recently received a ticket that I shouldn't have. In order to plead "not guilty", I first had to send in a check for the amount of the fine and court costs as "bail". (For a parking infraction!). It was $147.50, though the potential fine was only $50. The rest were "costs".

The court was understanding and dismissed the ticket in under 30 seconds, but they had my money for more than a month before the hearing was scheduled.

Kind of irritated me that the law dictates bail for a parking infraction and adds on so many costs if you want to defend yourself.

96 posted on 06/27/2006 3:47:28 PM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Brilliant

Contempt of court is not a "crime" exactly. But I don't see how it is even contempt of court. The two basic types of contempt of court are 1) telling off the Judge in open court, and 2) disobeying a court order. This is neither.


97 posted on 06/27/2006 3:47:41 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
I did the same thing once, in a cryptic sort of way...........

Did it involve recursion?
98 posted on 06/27/2006 4:31:16 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: samson1097
As explained to me by my friend, a business and finance major, when you fill out the memo field of a check, that is in essence a mini contract that you are entering into with the person who cashes it. By him cashing it, it's as if he agrees that is what the money will be used for. (Come to think of it, I should ask my lawyer brother instead of my business friend).

Ask your lawyer brother instead. The main issue with the memo line of the check has to do with taxes. If you claim that the money was received for 'A', but the memo line says 'B', it's harder to prove to the tax man that it was really for 'A'.
99 posted on 06/27/2006 4:35:27 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

Michigan, overall, has okay judges, provided you avoid the socialist peckerheads in the liberal cities. Looks like this guy got caught in a liberal t*twringer court.

Michigan recently rescinded all dueling laws. I'd go ahead and smack this marxist blackrobe with a glove and tell him to meet me behind the courthouse at dawn. And don't forget your sword. Ten bucks is ten bucks.


100 posted on 06/27/2006 5:08:50 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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