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Bats and horses get strangely chummy
NewScientist.com ^ | 09:45 25 June 2006

Posted on 06/28/2006 10:00:52 AM PDT by Sopater

You could call it a batty idea, but bats seem to be more closely related to horses than cows are.

Once thought to belong to the same group as primates, bats actually belong to the super-order Pegasoferae, which contains horses, cats and dogs, cows, whales and hedgehogs. Within this group, bats were thought to be only distant cousins to horses, but DNA analysis suggests that only cats and dogs are more closely related to horses than bats are (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, DOI: 10.1073/pnas.0603797103).

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KEYWORDS: bats; creation; crevo; crevolist; dna; evolution; science
DNA analysis suggests that only cats and dogs are more closely related to horses than bats are

Maybe it suggests that either DNA or morphology cannot be reliabily used to determine evolutionary ancestery.


A mammalian phylogeny reconstructed by our retroposon insertion analysis.
Downward arrows denote insertions of retroposons into each lineage.
© 2006 by The National Academy of Sciences


Trees of life based on genomics often look different from ones based on morphology, and they may even look different from each other depending on the genes compared and the method used. (excerpt from website linked from picture above...)

1 posted on 06/28/2006 10:00:54 AM PDT by Sopater
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To: Sopater

Answer to the question, "What have those people been smoking?"

2 posted on 06/28/2006 10:04:49 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

HOLY HORSEHIITE, BATMAN!..........


3 posted on 06/28/2006 10:06:31 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: Sopater

LOL! Some horses will put up with anything for a little company. Cows are not that social.


4 posted on 06/28/2006 10:07:55 AM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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To: Sopater

This explains why people get strangely chummy with flying lemurs.

5 posted on 06/28/2006 10:08:00 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Horsey ping! This says your horses are related to bats. What say you?
6 posted on 06/28/2006 10:09:46 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Sopater

This is one of those cladistics dealies?


7 posted on 06/28/2006 10:10:58 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Sopater
Bats and horses get strangely chummy

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8 posted on 06/28/2006 10:12:07 AM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48

Oh man that's funny!!


9 posted on 06/28/2006 10:16:59 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Sopater

Yeah, one could compare Human DNA to the DNA of tulips and daffodils, and you know what? One would be a better match than the other, let's say it turned out to be tulips. Would that mean we're more closely related to tulips?


10 posted on 06/28/2006 10:21:27 AM PDT by StACase
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To: StACase

Yes.


11 posted on 06/28/2006 10:26:49 AM PDT by hail to the chief (Use your conservatism liberally)
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To: Sopater
Megachiroptera is the suborder that includes Flying Foxes. Microchiroptera is the suborder that includes all the other types of bats.

The megachiroptera and flying lemurs share many similarities. Dr. Pettigrew ( http://www.batcon.org/batsmag/v3n2-1.html ) even proposed categorizing the flying lemurs with the primates.

I don't know what DNA studies have been done since this proposal first appeared in Science, March 14, 1986.

12 posted on 06/28/2006 10:56:32 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: hail to the chief

Well, not to put too fine of a point on it, you're an idiot.

13 posted on 06/28/2006 4:01:26 PM PDT by StACase
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To: Sopater

Maybe God used a lot of the same components to build animal life.


14 posted on 06/28/2006 4:04:41 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

No doubt God used techniques of which we have only the slightest idea, but He created something that came up with DNA and began spreading it throughout the many universes.


15 posted on 06/28/2006 5:00:34 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: StACase
So, you think we would be more closely related to the organism that does not match our DNA as well?
16 posted on 06/28/2006 5:37:06 PM PDT by hail to the chief (Use your conservatism liberally)
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To: hail to the chief

At some point in time, comparing DNA between species is silly. Certainly camparing Human DNA to daffodils and tulips fits that criteria.


17 posted on 06/28/2006 6:36:24 PM PDT by StACase
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