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Father kills 4 children, self after spousal dispute (2006 US murder totals - 8788 and rising)
Fort Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 7/04/06

Posted on 07/08/2006 7:59:32 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: CheneyChick
MEOW!!!

Rowr! Phhhhhhtttt! Hsssss!

As usual, you have hit the nail on the head. Mea culpa.

101 posted on 07/10/2006 10:56:52 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923
It's clear we both feel strongly about this, and sadly, from personal experience. I think I see your point. And in a way, it's the other end of mine;

Sorry, but I've seen TOO many volcaoes who explode QUITE selectively.

I, too, have seen this person. The selectivity. I hadn't considered your first example as separate, those who can't control it at all. But I do see your point.

They are just angry people who marry the doormats. Their explosion IS NEVER at the local cop, minister, clerk or their friends. It's always at their spouses and children, the doormat and captive audience respectively.

In a way, male or female, the 'doormat' with self esteem issues or who may have been shaped by a 'volcano' earlier, would be the only kind of person such a volatile individual would marry. And vice versa. I think some are drawn to marry those very kinds of people who may have been abusive to them at some earlier stage. It's the devil they do know, ironic though that is.

102 posted on 07/10/2006 12:00:21 PM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie
In a way, male or female, the 'doormat' with self esteem issues or who may have been shaped by a 'volcano' earlier, would be the only kind of person such a volatile individual would marry. And vice versa. I think some are drawn to marry those very kinds of people who may have been abusive to them at some earlier stage. It's the devil they do know, ironic though that is.

True. It's a horrible irony. It's the repeating of a cycle of violence and dysfunction. I guess it goes back to the very cave days.
I don't expect things to change much either. Do you? With all we know and learn and with all the help out there....posters STILL have compassion for the doormat. They expect NOTHING but tears and bolster the weeping with SUCH misplaced compassion.
It's ALL the fault of the volcano and the doormat need take NO responsibility for her life or the consequences of HER behavior. It's unreal.

Lol. When a woman is the abuser and the man is the doormat HE is told to "Be a man! Grow up!" HE is not allowed to be the victim. And if he weeps? He is excoriated for being a woos, weaking, etc. We save our misplaced compassion for the woman doormat. It's allowed for HER, but never, ever for the man.
SHE should be told to grow some backbone, gather some courage and....well, you get the point.

It is UNBELIEVABLY sad for the children who learn their respective roles (volcano or doormat) and will, without fail, repeat the cycle.

I guess what's so annoying is that when the volcano erupts, the doormat weeps to the world. All the hankies come out IN SUPPORT for the doormat.
The misplaced compassion is annoying because it REWARDS the doormat for being manipulative, weak and cowardly.

Having strength and courage has NOTHING to do with gender. REAL men are attracted to REAL women and vice versa....both which have strength and courage to go through life and its troubles, woes, crosses and griefs.

This story provoked a lot of feelings, didn't it?
It shows me how little some posters know about human nature. However, I know I am right on these issues. Listening to Dr. Laura everyday (on my way home from work) I learn something new every week, most of which are common sense things that hadn't occurred to me. :o)

Michaelangelo's motto: I am still learning.

103 posted on 07/10/2006 8:12:11 PM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923
They expect NOTHING but tears and bolster the weeping with SUCH misplaced compassion. It's ALL the fault of the volcano and the doormat need take NO responsibility for her life or the consequences of HER behavior. It's unreal.

This is probably the one area where we disagree, to a point. There is a lot of help out there for the victim, the 'doormat' personality. But often these people's self esteem has been so damaged they do not recognize they need, can get, the help they need. For some, the very idea they can exist without the abuse or the abuser is something they simply can't fathom or feel they deserve. It's a little different for the volcano personality who is often keenly aware of his Jekyll and Hyde personality (ie a great guy at work, a raving maniac at home). The 'doormat' personality may be actively complicit in the volcanos reactions and use them to deflect rage from his/herself and onto others, sadly often the children in such a home. Other times, this victim will shield the children. Obviously one type is more complicit than the other, and less deserving, if you will, of sympathy.

It is unreal. Now how to get the victim to seek help or step away from the abuser? I think it's a question of how aware she is that she is part of the problem and/or part of the solution. If you've ever met anyone convinced they aren't worthy of anything good, you'll know what I mean. They expect insults, negative comments, etc. They don't know how to process praise, complements, etc, and can be suspicious of them since many abusers will sometimes feel guilty and shower their abused with praise because the abused has at least in the moment corrected the fault that sets the abuser off (it's never their fault). Faulty logic for all, but if it's all one's ever known, then when does reality get a chance to break in?

I guess for many of the 'doormats', some responsibility is needed, but I think that to truly break the cycle, they need to get away from the abuser (how to convince them to do so, I don't know) and realize they don't have to live in such a world of reward/punishment that is radically opposed to the real world.

It is UNBELIEVABLY sad for the children who learn their respective roles (volcano or doormat) and will, without fail, repeat the cycle.

Yet, some can and do break away and break the cycle. And live normal lives. Our answers lie in what gives them, and the victims and abusers who truly change, the strength and courage to live differently. It is terribly sad for the kids. That is where some sympathy, some recognition that the abused and even the abuser deserve some sympathy and a chance to change, so their children can live differently and see their parents truly change for the better.

I guess what's so annoying is that when the volcano erupts, the doormat weeps to the world. All the hankies come out IN SUPPORT for the doormat.

Some weep in silence, hidden from the world, they are deserving of all our sympathy. Remember, the 'doormat' is a victim and does deserve some of our sympathy. It may be a fear response, the weeping to the world, to hold back our hand, a tactic that may have worked with the abuser. They are operating on faulty logic.

This story provoked a lot of feelings, didn't it?

It really does.

Having strength and courage has NOTHING to do with gender. REAL men are attracted to REAL women and vice versa....both which have strength and courage to go through life and its troubles, woes, crosses and griefs.

I didn't mean to imply that. Nor does it assign victimhood, men and women can be either role it seems, abuser or abused. I agree. But not all abused are doormats. For some of these victims, it's all they know and they've been browbeaten into thinking it's all they deserve, much like prisoners of war or kidnap victims can be browbeaten into a complete personality change. I'm not a regular listener of Dr. Laura. I know I do agree with at least some of her points. But for the person who knows no other way, to tell them to no nonsensely take charge of their life is to no avail because they know no other life than abuse. Those are the smaller amount truly needing some sympathy and serious help to get away from the cycle.

Well, I've gone on quite a bit! ;-) Michaelangelo was a smart man! I'm still learning, too.

104 posted on 07/11/2006 8:12:13 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: fortunecookie
I didn't mean to imply that. Nor does it assign victimhood, men and women can be either role it seems, abuser or abused. I agree. But not all abused are doormats. For some of these victims, it's all they know and they've been browbeaten into thinking it's all they deserve, much like prisoners of war or kidnap victims can be browbeaten into a complete personality change. I'm not a regular listener of Dr. Laura. I know I do agree with at least some of her points. But for the person who knows no other way, to tell them to no nonsensely take charge of their life is to no avail because they know no other life than abuse. Those are the smaller amount truly needing some sympathy and serious help to get away from the cycle.

I agree with some sympathy.

Have you ever heard of Delancy Street? It's a rehab/detox place for drug/alcohol abuse, especially for the former.
They give their people only ONE chance. If they blow it, they are out. They are very successful.

There are (mostly) men there who come in AT THE VERY BOTTOM of the pit of life. Their stories of home abuse would rip your heart out. From their stories you would believe that they were DOOMED forever.
Yet, they dig themselves out of the pit. Delancy Street gives them the chance....no tears, no sympathy, no whining, no victimhood...just the chance to be some place where they can learn to be clean and sober.
The strength of character that it takes to do this is incredible and many people simply do not have that in them.....ever.
That doesn't mean that those sad sacks ought to get a pass on trying to do better, ought to be enabled, wept with as hopeless, given money because they are "disabled" and certainly not rewarded with sympathy and money because they are weak. NO ONE is completely "helpless" except for the mentally ill/deficient, children and sick elderly.
Misplaced compassion gives HAND-OUTS; true compassion gives HAND-UPS. Huge difference. Going on and on and on about why they CAN'T defies the very meaning of being an AmerICAN.

I've heard ALL THE STORIES OF low self esteem, damaged lives, codependence, enabling -- all the jargon, drama and tears that women (and men) can dredge up on a DAILY basis. I call it the Land of 1001 Excuses. WhineyLand. he "Yeah...but" Excuses.

It will never stop, imho, because people WOULD RATHER do nothing, suffer, weep and weep some more....because what they would have to do to change things is simply TOO difficult to do. They will doom themselves and their children to repeat this horrific cycle.

The self-pity, misplaced compassion, victimhood and tears have to stop at some point. Often the point is when these women STOP thinking of themselves (Poor pitiful Pearl syndrome) and start thinking of their babies.

It's good that there are people like you and me. You weep with them and I tell them to stop weeping and grown some backbone. They need both, I suppose.

It's just that on this thread I only saw YOUR type and not mine.

Balance is needed, don't you think? [It's a rhetorical question. You don't have to answer. :o)]

105 posted on 07/11/2006 3:58:50 PM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

This isnt targeted towards anybody in particular, but just wanted to clarify a few things... All four children belonged to Amanda and Trevor. They were together for about 17 years, but didnt marry until Feb. 2003. They met when she was 16 and he was 20 and started dating a year later. She did change her last name, but I think the media uses her last name so you wont confuse the two when reading the article.

I knew Trevor and he always bragged and showed pictures of his children. He loved his kids and wife so much.. I cant believe this happened. No matter what the circumstances, there is NEVER any excuse to kill innocent children. Just a plain tradegy.



106 posted on 07/12/2006 2:36:47 PM PDT by withangels
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To: starfish923
From the article...sorry to resurrect the thread, but felt you should see that one more of your "holes" have been filled in. This was in the second article, posted in reply #1

Her friend called police who found Trimble lying in the street, hysterical but not physically hurt, officers said.

107 posted on 07/14/2006 5:52:07 AM PDT by trussell (Work for God...the retirement benefits are eternal!)
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To: trussell
From the article...sorry to resurrect the thread, but felt you should see that one more of your "holes" have been filled in. This was in the second article, posted in reply #1
Her friend called police who found Trimble lying in the street, hysterical but not physically hurt, officers said.

Yes, I read that a LONG time ago. No hole was filled. We aren't told why she was lying in the street, if someone put her there, or what.

One ASSUMES that IF she had gone in and seen the murders/suicide, she might do something other than run AWAY from her babies and husband, run OUT to the street, fall down for some reason and go hysterical.
Who called the cops? If someone called the cops, WHY did they? Because they heard shots? Saw mommy lying on the street hysterical? Did SHE call the cops?

Still too many holes.
Of course, we already KNOW that running away seems to be what she does when she had a problem with husband.

By the way, I've been in Hawaii the last week and a half....thus the delay in answering.

108 posted on 07/23/2006 2:59:17 PM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

Read the line you have in red...it clearly says Her friend called police. How many times does that have to be pointed out to you?

You have NO IDEA how you would react to walking into your home and finding your family dead. You may do the same thing as she did.


109 posted on 07/23/2006 4:19:57 PM PDT by trussell (Work for God...the retirement benefits are eternal!)
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To: trussell
You have NO IDEA how you would react to walking into your home and finding your family dead. You may do the same thing as she did.

I didn't give any opinion on that; I DIDN'T say that I knew how she reacted and if you could ACTUALLY read what I wrote and STOP putting words into my mouth, this discussion wouldn't keep making your comments appear so silly, ill-thought-out and redundant.

What is your problem with reading? Are you a graduate of the public school system or is something wrong with your brain in that you simply MUST inject words into my reply that simply AREN'T there?

Please DON'T contact me again, as you simply can't READ what's written.
Ignore button: ON

110 posted on 07/23/2006 8:34:42 PM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

How convenient that you say I have a reading comprehension problem when you managed to miss, multiple times, the fact that her friend called the police. Even though that very sentence was put in front of you several times.

And no, you didn't give your opinion on how you would react to finding your family dead...you just refuse to believe she would collapse in the street from hysteria over the situation. Not everything is black and white...there are many shades of gray. People react to things differently.


111 posted on 07/23/2006 8:56:02 PM PDT by trussell (Work for God...the retirement benefits are eternal!)
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To: starfish923; trussell

Please don't contact trussell again.


112 posted on 07/23/2006 9:07:42 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: starfish923

I'm contacting you.

And what Trussell said makes a helluva lot more sense than temper tantrum that you just threw.


113 posted on 07/23/2006 9:11:23 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: starfish923
"She will weep her way past any blame, naturally:

your attitude is very disturbing.....and , very revealing....

114 posted on 07/23/2006 9:25:38 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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To: cherry; starfish923

This person has cast blame and suspicion on the mother all through this thread. Refused to see and/or comprehend plain english as it was put in front of her...flamed others for their opinion and support of the mother. I think we are seeing a disruptor here.


115 posted on 07/23/2006 9:32:45 PM PDT by trussell (Work for God...the retirement benefits are eternal!)
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To: HOTTIEBOY
I'm contacting you.
And what Trussell said makes a helluva lot more sense than temper tantrum that you just threw.

1. If YOU think it's a "temper tantrum" to be fed up with people injecting words into my replies that aren't there, then good for you.

2. By the way, for you to interpret THAT as a "temper tantrum" is grossly overblown and melodramatic. Apparently you haven't witnessed real temper tantrums on this site. Lol.

3. For you to STILL be reading this thread, after all these pages, shows that you just MIGHT need a life. I've only been responding to "pings" -- you are actually keeping tabs and following along. Why? There are SO many other things to read here. Why on earth -- never mind. I don't really want to know. Mostly, I don't care.

4. Finally, if YOU think that "trussel" makes a "helluva lot more sense" with his replies, then I am really glad that you aren't on my side. HOTTIEBOY?! How old ARE you? You CHOSE that call sign? Lol. You CAN'T be over 14 years old. You CAN'T be!

5. Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos) asked me not to contact him again. The lad is obviously just a kid. Too bad his protector (dad?) doesn't let him fight his own fights and take responsibility for his own words.
And too bad Mr. Goldsberry can't read EITHER. If he read my reply to his "trussel," then he would have seen that my IGNORE BUTTON WAS ALREADY ON! for junior. They must be from the same family -- with READING problems. Tsk. It's annoying to write and get responses -- after what I wrote WASN'T EVEN READ.

At least he was polite. THAT is a good thing.

116 posted on 07/23/2006 9:35:26 PM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: cherry
"She will weep her way past any blame, naturally:
your attitude is very disturbing.....and , very revealing....

cherry (.)
Your capturing words out of context is also very disturbing.....and , very revealing.....

You write just like the left-wing, radical, progressive liberals who take out-of-context sound bites and then use them to misrepresent and obfuscate the truth.

You have the makings of a true mainstream media, liberal, New York Times writer, after you take some writing lessons first, of course.

117 posted on 07/23/2006 9:42:29 PM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923
No way am I reading a post that long....

If I wanted to hear that much nagging I would go wake up my wife.


118 posted on 07/23/2006 10:08:20 PM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: starfish923
Take the whole damn box!


119 posted on 07/24/2006 3:51:43 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: starfish923

"The very definition of "enabler" is the "tolerator." If they feel that they "deserve it" then they are as SICK as the people who abuse them. "


I cant believe I didnt see this thread before.. but, now that I have:
I think you are a disgusting piece of crap. Where did you get such insight on abusers? Know any personally? You are a judgemental, narrow minded, piece of work.


120 posted on 07/24/2006 5:40:40 AM PDT by motormouth (Whatever you are, be a good one.)
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To: sassygirl

Thanks for pointing this thread out to me. :o)


121 posted on 07/24/2006 5:49:04 AM PDT by motormouth (Whatever you are, be a good one.)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

Nice graphic. You obviously know a lot about nagging. I guess you either do a lot or hear it a lot....which explains you a lot.

You are old enough to be married with a puerile call sign like that?

Ignore button: ON

122 posted on 07/24/2006 7:38:55 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: motormouth
I cant believe I didnt see this thread before.. but, now that I have: I think you are a disgusting piece of crap. Where did you get such insight on abusers? Know any personally? You are a judgemental, narrow minded, piece of work.

Let's see.

1. You have just trolled on to this thread at the very end of a very incomplete story of a murder and suicide from WEEKS ago and seem very excited to be here.
That says VERY SICK things about you. I wonder which moron told you of the feeding frenzing against me. Have you SO LITTLE in your life that THIS is what floats your boat?
Pathetic.
Perhaps you are very, very young and know no better.
I only answer the pings to this. I don't troll the weeks-old stories of murder/suicide and, like buzzards after carrion, rush to bash the latest cause celebre.
Sad.

2. You start out with insulting me because you OBVIOUSLY haven't read everything I've said. Otherwise you would not have made such an ignornant response.
Either you can't read or are too lazy to go through all of my dialogues and merely INSULT me to hide your ignorance and/or sloth. Perhaps it's both.
Either way, my IGNORE BUTTON is ON for you.

But then, with call signs like "HOTTIEBOY" and "motormouth," I guess you all explain yourselves from the get-go. One can ONLY hope that neither of your breed.

123 posted on 07/24/2006 7:48:25 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: Toby06
I guess that graphic explains you and your thinking powers. People usually insult with what most familiar to them.
Perhaps YOU have taken the stuff WAY too much and for WAY too long a time.

Time for you to detox and rehab from the stuff.

124 posted on 07/24/2006 7:51:21 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923; motormouth; HOTTIEBOY

I wouldn't make fun of other folks names darlin', considering yours is slang for a rectum.


125 posted on 07/24/2006 7:52:24 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: starfish923

WOW.. you are a funny one arent ya?

You are a waste of space on this thread, hell, on this site. Your posts were cruel and ignorant....was it your ass that was typing those, cuz I swear it was a load of sh**.
As for your ignore ON button, I have a button for you too... wanna guess what it is?

But all the same, you have great day.


126 posted on 07/24/2006 7:59:11 AM PDT by motormouth (Whatever you are, be a good one.)
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To: najida
I wouldn't make fun of other folks names darlin', considering yours is slang for a rectum.

Which name is slang for rectum? HOTTIEBOY would be my best guess. Motormouth would also be an EXCELLENT choice too, but who knows. Who cares? Oh, I forgot...YOU care.
That is disgusting. But, then, you are HERE at the feeding frenzy.

I guess the fact that YOU know that information about slang for rectum tells me ALL I want to know about YOU. Perhaps it's a badge of honor to you that you not only know such toilet stuff but use it publically, showing everyone else how conversant you are with such gutter language.
I guess it's been used on you a lot. People often insult with what hurts them the most.

Your parents must be very proud of you.
With your reply you show your upbringing, manners and character here....or lack of them.

127 posted on 07/24/2006 8:01:51 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

"One can ONLY hope that neither of your breed"

Hey, smartass, was that supposed to say "One can ONLY hope that neither of YOU breed."

your=you

Im just checking, I wouldnt want to falsely accuse you of being stupid as well as arrogant.


128 posted on 07/24/2006 8:06:09 AM PDT by motormouth (Whatever you are, be a good one.)
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To: starfish923
One hopes she will have learned something about disputes, arguments and fighting.

Have you?

129 posted on 07/24/2006 8:07:20 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
One hopes she will have learned something about disputes, arguments and fighting.
Have you?

I learned about these things a long time ago.

1. This is SUPPOSED to be a discussion thread. It was for quite a while. People are allowed to have different views and if you had bothered to read all the posts, then you would know that I defended my point of view -- which DID start out with "I wonder" -- all along, even silencing the gainsayers.
The civil discussion was finished.

2. It has turned into a bash thread the last several posts, by people who DIDN'T start out to have a discussion by any stretch of the imagination. Their SOLE purpose for being at the end of this thread is to come in at the feeding frenzy of insults to ONE sole, lone poster.
That's the behavior of bullies, cowards and gutless wonders who only venture forth in packs, like howling hyenas, all excited about the kill.

3. People like that are the bottom-feeders of this site. You know that because they have nothing to ADD to the discussion. They have ONLY insults, name-calling and puerile graphics.
That SHOWS their thinking....upbring, manners and character, or lack of them. Their families must be so proud of them. < sarc. >

4. These posters go on my ignore list.

5. The ridiculous and hilarious part is that THEY won't remember months from now.
I will reply to something with which they TOTALLY agree and they will give me the "high fives" and such. It's absurd that they spew their venom and hate with such alacrity and then FORGET whom they insulted. Ricidulous!
They CAN'T be so stupid careless and short-sighted to believe that I won't remember, can they? Rhetorical because they CAN be so.
Naturally, I won't respond because I am more orderly in my thinking. I KNOW where those posters come from, but they scatter their insults and toilet mouths with such frivolity, carelessness and amazing quantity that they FORGET whom they insult.
I don't.
I treat them like poisonous spiders. I avoid them. I keep my eye on them and steer clear but I don't engage.
One doesn't hate these people because what they write is simply part of their nature. They can't seem to be anything else.
Undoubtedly they are more to be pitied than anything else.
As I wrote above, one hopes they don't breed.

130 posted on 07/24/2006 8:35:38 AM PDT by starfish923 ( Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

You seem like a classic abuser, and that's why you have your knickers in such a twist. You must have gone too long without kicking a puppy or stepping on a baby chick.

Please, go get yourself some professional help.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?


131 posted on 07/24/2006 8:53:42 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: wallcrawlr

Did you see this?

"One can ONLY hope that neither of your breed"
Hey, smartass, was that supposed to say "One can ONLY hope that neither of YOU breed."
your=you
Im just checking, I wouldnt want to falsely accuse you of being stupid as well as arrogant.

He corrects MY one error in spelling then shows HIS own FOUR errors in grammar and punctuation.

1. He left out the apostrophe in "I'm" and "wouldn't."
2. He forgot that he asked a question and left out the question mark at the end of "...was that supposed to say...."
3. He has to put either a period or semicolon after "Im just checking" because that is required in English. Perhaps he doesn't even know that one.

It's not carelessness, is it? It's either TOTAL IGNORANCE of grammar or sloth. Perhaps both.

See how silly he seems with his attitude of correcting me? It's downright amusing. I even smiled at this poster. I really ought to THANK HIM for making my point so clearly and succinctly, shouldn't I?

I NEVER correct posters' English grammar, punctuation or spelling because SOMETIMES the poster might be very smart and have incredibly clear, straight thinking, BUT have little or no training in writing. They don't deserve that anyone should call them on their mistakes because it's the content of their communication that means something, not necessarily the style.
Most know that lacuna in their training and most try to get the communication style correct because it IS important to be precise with words. They are powerful.

Finally, you notice that he CONTINUES the insulting.
My, what an ANGRY person. He probably explains his anger and insults with a variety of excuses. Wouldn't be surprised.

Ah, time for my second cup of coffee.

132 posted on 07/24/2006 8:55:48 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

...are you still talking?


133 posted on 07/24/2006 8:56:33 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: starfish923
Ah, time for my second cup of coffee.

i'd suggest sex

134 posted on 07/24/2006 8:57:15 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr

With a human, this time.


135 posted on 07/24/2006 8:58:49 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: wallcrawlr
Here's another one.

You seem like a classic abuser, and that's why you have your knickers in such a twist. You must have gone too long without kicking a puppy or stepping on a baby chick. Please, go get yourself some professional help. Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

I am a woman, an older one.

People usually insult with what's most prominent in THEIR lives. That shows that this person MIGHT (Notice the conditional use here.) have some REAL serious problems with his anger.
He's the one who seems to need much help. But that's just my opinion. I don't know the person. THANK GOD for small favors.

Oh, another thing about Free Republic.
It's OKAY to insult a person's thinking, ideas and logic. It's NOT OKAY to insult the person. Those are called ad hominem attacks. Supposedly, they are forbidden on this site. No moderators here, I guess.

COFFEE.

136 posted on 07/24/2006 9:03:17 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: wallcrawlr
i'd suggest sex


Let me guess; you are male.

137 posted on 07/24/2006 9:06:07 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923
It's OKAY to insult a person's thinking, ideas and logic. It's NOT OKAY to insult the person. Those are called ad hominem attacks. Supposedly, they are forbidden on this site. No moderators here, I guess.

If the moderators were paying attention, I think you would have been banned long ago. You are extremely abusive to just about everyone else on the thread.

138 posted on 07/24/2006 9:06:46 AM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: starfish923

If the mods were watching, you'd have been zotted a long time ago.

Pot/kettle & all that!


139 posted on 07/24/2006 9:06:50 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Toby06

GMTA


140 posted on 07/24/2006 9:09:26 AM PDT by Tatze (This tagline is brought to you by the Admin Moderator!)
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To: starfish923

are you hot?


141 posted on 07/24/2006 9:09:39 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr

LOL, only in flashes!


142 posted on 07/24/2006 9:13:26 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: Tatze

Yeah that!


143 posted on 07/24/2006 9:13:41 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: wallcrawlr
are you hot?

Only to old men, since I am old.

I'm going to the Club now for my usual 3x/week hourly swim. Then a Jacuzzi, maybe a steam or sauna. Then, I must make an appointment for a pedicure. We were in Maui snorkeling for 10 days and my feet are a mess. Got the hair appointment tomorrow and the manicure Wednesday. I DO have fabulous hair. My nails are also fabulous....long and decorative.

I am a high maintenance older woman, expensive, but not prohibitive. I clean up well. :o)

I DON'T want to know about you.....sorry, your call sign is such a turn off. Wall crawlers are squished or sprayed to death in my house, geckos and other insect-eating-lizard-wall-crawlers exempt.

144 posted on 07/24/2006 9:20:06 AM PDT by starfish923 (Socrates: It's never right to do wrong.)
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To: starfish923

wow...how do you fit the therapy in with all that?


145 posted on 07/24/2006 9:22:25 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr; Tatze; Toby06

LOL!
You guys are doin' great!


146 posted on 07/24/2006 9:23:43 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: najida

I'm gonna go you-know-what in the pool at the Club before you-know-who gets there. BRB!


147 posted on 07/24/2006 9:25:16 AM PDT by Toby06 (True conservatives vote based on their values, not for parties.)
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To: starfish923

You NEED to get the CAPS keys FIXED.


148 posted on 07/24/2006 10:04:06 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: starfish923
Only to old men, since I am old.
I'm going to the Club now for my usual 3x/week hourly swim. Then a Jacuzzi, maybe a steam or sauna. Then, I must make an appointment for a pedicure.


I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth.
149 posted on 07/24/2006 10:13:59 AM PDT by HOTTIEBOY (I'm your huckleberry)
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To: HOTTIEBOY

I think she likes you Hottie....
Don't let her see your bike :)


150 posted on 07/24/2006 10:15:30 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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