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Westmoreland woman found dead in wolf pen ("Wolf-hybrids" killed)
Pittsburg Tribune ^ | 7/18/06

Posted on 07/18/2006 7:25:28 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside

Westmoreland woman found dead in wolf pen

Wolf hybrids killed

Tuesday, July 18, 2006

Humane agents warned a Westmoreland County woman it was only a matter of time before the wolf hybrids she kept as pets turned on her.

Authorities are trying to determine if the pets attacked and killed Sandra L. Piovesan, whose body was found mauled in the fenced pen where the hybrids were housed...

Piovesan, who lived alone, had raised and bred wolf hybrids for several years, sometimes drawing complaints from neighbors.

"Everybody told her this would happen, but she just wouldn't listen. She was a very likable person, but she was just delusional about their danger, and totally misguided."

Wolves in the wild fear people because humans are their only predators, said James Paulson, outreach coordinator with Wild Spirit Wolf Sanctuary in New Mexico. But wolf hybrids are more dangerous than wild wolves because they don't fear humans, Gower said...

State police Trooper Brian Gross said Piovesan's body was mauled "pretty bad" by the hybrids.

Gross said humane officers tranquilized the six animals before troopers shot and killed them...

She sometimes kept nearly a dozen wolf hybrids and occasionally invited visitors inside the pen to see them. She built a playground with tunnels and climbing stations for the animals.

Wolf hybrids do not make good pets, experts say...

"She loved those wolves just like pets. She told me she was part American Indian, and she told me it was part of her ethnic background," said Brian Gallagher, a longtime friend.

"They were all one pack ... including Sandra, who was considered the leader of the pack. I think one of them may have wanted to take over as leader of the pack." ...

Gieselman said Piovesan fed the hybrids roadkill.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: doggieping; nolongeralphafemale; wolfattack; wolvesblitzedher
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1 posted on 07/18/2006 7:25:30 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: SJackson

Wolf attack ping.


2 posted on 07/18/2006 7:27:27 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Yeah, I've got an axe to grind...what else would you use on Leftists?)
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To: Mr. Brightside
She was a very likable person...

Apparently so... no meat tenderizer needed.

3 posted on 07/18/2006 7:28:05 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

A co-worker of mine 4 year old son was killed by a wolf-hybrid a few years back. It wasn't his, but a neighbor's that had gotten out of it's backyard pen and came across the fence and killed him. They had complained to authorities before, but they could not do anything as the animal was kept well and was told it was not a danger........


4 posted on 07/18/2006 7:30:50 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Speak about biting the hand that feeds you!


5 posted on 07/18/2006 7:31:06 AM PDT by Starboard (Liberal superiorists hate the system that allows average people to make more money than they do.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
She told me she was part American Indian, and she told me it was part of her ethnic background," said Brian Gallagher, a longtime friend.

Maybe the wolves didn't eat that Indian part.

Idiot.

6 posted on 07/18/2006 7:32:56 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Red Badger
They had complained to authorities before, but they could not do anything

That's usually the case.

7 posted on 07/18/2006 7:34:11 AM PDT by Starboard (Liberal superiorists hate the system that allows average people to make more money than they do.)
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To: Starboard

There were no laws against having the animal. They considered it a "DOG". It was kept in a clean pen, plenty of food and fresh water, no abuse. Owner claimed it was no different than a German Sheperd.......


8 posted on 07/18/2006 7:36:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: theDentist
Apparently so... no meat tenderizer needed.

OOOhhhh! Good one!
9 posted on 07/18/2006 7:37:52 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: theDentist

The other, OTHER white meat.


10 posted on 07/18/2006 7:39:50 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: WorkingClassFilth
This is a photo of a "Hybrid." This is as close to a wolf as one can get IMO.
11 posted on 07/18/2006 7:40:02 AM PDT by Mathews (Ambition, absent a moral compass, is naked destruction.)
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To: Red Badger

Tragic story. My point is essentially that you can't rely on authorities to do anything so you have to take precautionary or defensive measures on your own. Authorities react only after something bad has already happened.


12 posted on 07/18/2006 7:57:42 AM PDT by Starboard (Liberal superiorists hate the system that allows average people to make more money than they do.)
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To: Starboard

Ground beef with d-Con seasoning comes to mind..........


13 posted on 07/18/2006 7:59:06 AM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Mr. Brightside

A dozen??? I knew someone with one back in Arizona. He was the sweetest thing but having a dozen is not smart.


14 posted on 07/18/2006 8:00:58 AM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: Mr. Brightside; HairOfTheDog

dog ping

Besides wolves are meant to roam large forests, not little doggie pens. Darwin award winner.


15 posted on 07/18/2006 8:02:41 AM PDT by cyborg (then comes baby in the baby carriage)
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To: Mr. Brightside; cyborg; Flyer; technochick99; sinkspur; 88keys; DugwayDuke; sissyjane; Severa; ...
Ping!


Other articles with keyword "DOGGIEPING" since 12/29/04

16 posted on 07/18/2006 8:05:57 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: WorkingClassFilth; Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; ...

If you'd like to be on or off this Upper Midwest (WI, IA, MN, MI, and anyone else) list, largely rural issues, please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


17 posted on 07/18/2006 8:08:10 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Apparently the wolves blitzed her.


18 posted on 07/18/2006 8:12:08 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Mr. Brightside; HairOfTheDog
Why do people insist on having a wolf hybrids?

Becasue its "cool"

Its dangerous and usually cruel to the animal as they still retain as this story shows much of their wild instinct

Wild animals should be left in the wild

19 posted on 07/18/2006 8:13:55 AM PDT by apackof2 (That Girl is a Cowboy)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Gieselman said Piovesan fed the hybrids roadkill.

She might have looked like roadkill to them..........


20 posted on 07/18/2006 8:15:38 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

21 posted on 07/18/2006 8:15:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SJackson; Mr. Brightside

"I think one of them may have wanted to take over as leader of the pack."

Ya THINK? What a horrible way to go. I don't think my dogs would kill me on purpose, though they have given me a nice shiner (we butted heads) and a few scrapes and bruises over the years from being underfoot.

I don't think I could handle a wolf-dog, myself. I need DH to muscle the Lab when it's time to go to the vet, LOL! The Basset loves the vet; he's King For A Day when he's there. ;)


22 posted on 07/18/2006 8:20:25 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Okay, here's a dumb question -- I know absolutely nothing about these wolf-hybrid dogs. I just remember hearing they were very popular.

What dog are they usually mixed with to make them hybrid? Is it any dog/wolf combo--or a specific dog or what?

23 posted on 07/18/2006 8:21:58 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Bobby, if you weren't my son... I'd hug you...")
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To: Mr. Brightside

I think we found next years Darwin Award winner.


24 posted on 07/18/2006 8:22:42 AM PDT by builder (I don't want a piece of someone else's pie)
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To: cyborg

Are you sure it was really a wolf hybrid? Unscrupulous folks do breed crosses with northern breeds to have that wolfy look but still dog temperments) and sell them to the unsuspecting.
susie


25 posted on 07/18/2006 8:25:48 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: RepoGirl
I know absolutely nothing about these wolf-hybrid dogs.

The only thing I know is that they eat less food and create less emissions. So they are good for the environment.

But you have to plug them in all night to make sure they are charged for the next day.

26 posted on 07/18/2006 8:26:09 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: RepoGirl

Mostly I hear of either malmute or GSD mixes, mainly because they want to keep that wolfy look.
susie


27 posted on 07/18/2006 8:27:25 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea

I do believe this was a genuine wolf hybrid. When I first saw the dog, I said to him that he looked an awful lot like a wolf. I have no reason to doubt him, old dude living on the Navajo Res. FWIW, I googled wolf hybrid and there are a lot of people selling the puppies!


28 posted on 07/18/2006 8:28:28 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: brytlea

I figured either GSD or husky. My babysitter's neighbor owns one. I've never even met or seen it, just heard about it.


29 posted on 07/18/2006 8:31:31 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Bobby, if you weren't my son... I'd hug you...")
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To: Mr. Brightside
Heheheheh.

You know, I have hear that too. But I've heard they have several drawbacks to them.

Their owners tend to be incredibly smug, often congregating in areas like San Francisco, and that they're not as reliable as regular dogs--instead they can sometimes stall during long walks for no reason. They just conk out, something to do with the wolf to dog-power conversion or something (I'm not one of those science types).

Oh, and emergency vets say they don't like to work on them, something about the jaws of life causing big electrical shocks... ;-)

30 posted on 07/18/2006 8:34:36 AM PDT by RepoGirl ("Bobby, if you weren't my son... I'd hug you...")
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To: Mr. Brightside

Had my truck washed a couple of weeks by one of those youth church/sports groups that set up in some business parking lot on a Saturday morning. Had my 20-pound terrier mix dog with me on a leash. Some dude with a 120-lb wolf-hybrid (he claims) comes up and has his dog on a leash too. Letting the 4 and 5 year old kids pet her, says she's friendly. I keep mine away from her. One girl about 8 reaches down to pet my dog and the w-h, which had gotten close to her when the owner turned his back, attacked her. Not too much damage, scratches and didn't break the skin. Owner says he "has problems" with her and that she is jealous of attention given any other dog. I wonder how long it will be before he has real problems with her.


31 posted on 07/18/2006 8:39:56 AM PDT by CedarDave (When a soldier dies, a family cries, a protester gloats, an Iraqi votes)
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To: cyborg

http://www.wolfpark.org/wolfdogs/Poster_section3.html

Check about halfway down the page, under Wolves Without Wolf.

It's actually a really interesting website, if you have the time to check out the rest of it.
susie


32 posted on 07/18/2006 8:43:12 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: RepoGirl

They are quite faddish right now. My nephew got one, not sure if he still has it. I suspect that most do not stay in the orignal home and end up either euthanized, going from home to home or (the lucky ones) in a sanctuary of some sort.
Most people can't tell the difference between a wolf and some of the northern breeds, so if they like that look, I don't know why they don't just get one of those. Heck, many of THOSE breeds are not the easiest dogs to live with!
susie


33 posted on 07/18/2006 8:47:49 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: theDentist

lol, hot tea does not exit nasal passages pleasantly


34 posted on 07/18/2006 8:56:28 AM PDT by RushCrush (Ban stupid people, not dogs!)
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To: Mr. Brightside
She told me she was part American Indian, and she told me it was part of her ethnic background," said Brian Gallagher, a longtime friend.

Indians killed wolfs whenever they could. They were competition for food, plus they would attack children. The old saw about no documented wolf attacks on the US continent is so much BS. In Europe wolf attacks were very common in the winter, the European wolf is the same animal that roams here in the US, why would the ones here not attack people and the ones in Europe attack them? The answer is simple: Enviros lie about things, yes, I know it is hard to believe but true none the less.

35 posted on 07/18/2006 9:05:19 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: calex59

Where do you get your information?

Indians did not kill wolves whenever they could. In fact, many considered wolves to be their brothers.

The European wolf is not the same as the ones in North America.


36 posted on 07/18/2006 9:15:50 AM PDT by Shyla
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To: Mr. Brightside

Lady, never lead.

37 posted on 07/18/2006 9:23:07 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Mr. Brightside
She told me she was part American Indian, and she told me it was part of her ethnic background

I didn't know there was a Darwin Indian Tribe???
38 posted on 07/18/2006 9:56:20 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Mr. Brightside; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; SandyInSeattle; Darksheare; ...


"*BURP!*"


39 posted on 07/18/2006 10:14:30 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
GROAN! I hope you're attacked by a roving pack of rabid Priuses on the way home!
40 posted on 07/18/2006 10:25:13 AM PDT by OSHA (Lose money FAST playing penny stocks. Ask me how!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

lol!

You must have a direct line to my funny bone...


41 posted on 07/18/2006 10:30:29 AM PDT by pax_et_bonum (Whatever happened to Cynthia McKinney?)
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To: Mr. Brightside
Neighbors raise chorus of howls over wolf dogs

KAUFMAN COUNTY – To many, the video is horrific: repeated scenes of a pack of wolf dogs snapping and barking, taking down one of their own as it whimpers and wails in an outdoor compound a few miles southwest of Kemp.

But is it, under the law, cruelty? Is it even what it appears?

Darlene Murphy, the neighbor who shot a video that has achieved notoriety on the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals Web site, says it is. She and some of her neighbors say they are tired of the occasional fighting, the regular howling and the odors emanating from dozens of wolf-dog hybrids owned by William Lambert.

But Mr. Lambert, his supporters and even two wolf hybrid experts who might disagree with some of his practices say the neighbors misunderstand how wolves and wolf hybrids fight – not to injure, but to establish hierarchy in their pack.

Ms. Murphy provided still photos of two dead wolf dogs that she said she photographed weeks after some of the fights, but Mr. Lambert "absolutely" denied that any of his dogs have been severely injured or killed in the attacks.

By the middle of last week, the tensions had escalated into an online and e-mail war between people who had witnessed an eight-minute, heavily edited PETA video and customers of Mr. Lambert's business, Starcross Wolves, some of whom have been satisfied enough with his facility to return to buy a second wolf dog.

"Over 15 years," he said of his customers, "no one has ever sued me or called Kaufman County."

The rest of the story is here.

People are playing with fire with these animals. This is the turbo-charged version of the pit bull.

42 posted on 07/18/2006 10:33:43 AM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Sounds like somebody else wanted to be leader of the pack.


43 posted on 07/18/2006 10:34:49 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (I SHOT DOWN TWA 800 AND FR IS CLOSING IN ON ME)
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To: SoothingDave
L-O-you ain't right-L
44 posted on 07/18/2006 10:52:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (</quip>)
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45 posted on 07/18/2006 10:54:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (</quip>)
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To: martin_fierro

Blitzer did it.


46 posted on 07/18/2006 10:59:23 AM PDT by beyond the sea (The truth exists even when it is ignored.)
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To: martin_fierro

My guy is the detective in the pic on the website with the shotgun. He said it was one of the most bizzare incidents he's ever investigated.


47 posted on 07/18/2006 11:02:21 AM PDT by cjshapi
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To: Slings and Arrows
*BURP*

Funniest thing I've seen all day. =D

48 posted on 07/18/2006 11:05:13 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: Mr. Brightside

There is no record of a wolf killing a human in the United States.

This woman obviously died of natural causes, then the wolves fed on her.





/sarc


49 posted on 07/18/2006 11:05:52 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

Wolf dogs, not wolfs. Big difference.


50 posted on 07/18/2006 11:14:22 AM PDT by Shyla
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