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Posted on 07/23/2006 8:49:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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This is untrue. I answered his question in post 485
He did not answer me but continued to ask the same question of others. Why did he bypass my direct answer to his question and continue to act as if it had not been answered?
Courtesy ping to CarolinaGuitarman and Old Landmarks.
"Courtesy ping to CarolinaGuitarman..."
Appreciated, but I'm getting out of this thread. The troll ratio is getting too high to take.
I called you on your false accusation that Old Landmarks called you names, he did not call you a name.
Twice now, you have said he called you names, now show me the post where he called you a name or admit you just made that false accusation up.
Last time. Bye Troll. :)
OL's challenge was to the one who was offering the opinion, Guitarman, and that challenge for Guitarman to answer the question and then test his opinion went unchallenged. Glad I could clear up the minor semantics.
What do they propose scientifically as responsible for the lack of chaos in this intelligible universe? If you want to hear the sound of crickets, just ask.
Those are Carolina Guitarman's defining characteristics. Glad to see him get caught red handed and exposed.
Yet you refuse to define 'organized matter' and specify the functions this matter performs. You also avoid explaining how self organizing systems that perform specific functions are different than your 'organized matter'.
I spent a great deal of time not all that long ago trying to get you to tell me how to determine if a given chunk of matter is organized or not, and what kind of function is 'specific'. I never did get an answer.
After watching the Chugabrew ball randomly bounce off the walls, all the while carefully avoiding my questions, I decided conversing with you is no different than conversing with a Turing testbot.
"Those are Carolina Guitarman's defining characteristics."
Hi. What banned retred are you? I don't ever remember talking to you before. :)
Saint Augustine (A.D. 354-430) in his work The Literal Meaning of Genesis (De Genesi ad litteram libri duodecim) provided excellent advice for all Christians who are faced with the task of interpreting Scripture in the light of scientific knowledge. This translation is by J. H. Taylor in Ancient Christian Writers, Newman Press, 1982, volume 41.Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of this world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he hold to as being certain from reason and experience.
Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men.
If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods and on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion. [1 Timothy 1.7]
Augustine was obviously wasn't a Real Christiantm. He was clearly a Marxist, atheist, materialist, Nazi homo.
My quote is no doubt out of context, and Augustine, in the very next sentence says something like: "Of course this doesn't apply to matters like the age of the earth."
I like your quote from Augustine, I have a few thousand others that are worth repeating.
Aquinas and Augustine are two of my favorites and if they lived today, I assume they would probably agree with the Holy See, who also accepts evidence that things are not static, they evolve. I am on a short lunch break but if if you have some point you were trying to make, I would be glad to discuss it with you when I have time.
Do you like all of what Augustine wrote or just a few things? We can delve deeply into his writings and that of Aquinas and the ante and post nicene fathers if you would like.
I'm not particularly interested in theology or philosophy. My reasons for posting here are rather shallow. I consider the anti-evolutionists on this forum to be driving away bright people who might otherwise be interested in conservative politics.
I have no interest in convincing or converting the anti-evolutionists. I'm merely here to demonstrate that there are conservatives who are not opposed to science.
Sure you don't, sure.
The lying comes real natural for you. Keep it up for all to see.
You made an accusation about O Landmark that everyone knows was a lie and you got nailed on it.
You never answered with your proof of that lie because it was plainly just another one of your lies.
What banned retred are you?
Tsk, Tsk, You might as well keep lying at a record clip, cuz you have no credibility left anyway, nada, zip, zero and everybody knows it!
Thanks you for validating what I said earlier----
Namecalling, juvenile insults, hurling false accusations, obfuscation. Those are Carolina Guitarman's defining characteristics. Glad to see him get caught red handed and exposed.
Now take a hike son.
Bye Troll! :)
Ouch, the truth hurts, post 671, total exposure PING.
Bye Troll! :)
I guess you were just doing what you do best.
Bye Troll! :)
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