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UCI says unidentified rider tested positive (Tour de France)
Fox Sports ^ | 26 Jul 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/26/2006 11:13:14 AM PDT by commish

AIGLE, Switzerland (AP) - A rider in the Tour de France tested positive for doping, the sport's governing body said Wednesday.

The UCI said it wouldn't disclose the rider's name, team or nationality pending completion of the testing process.

"The UCI received today a report of the anti-doping laboratory of Paris stating an adverse analytical finding following an anti-doping test carried out at the Tour de France 2006," the statement said.

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KEYWORDS: cycling; doping; landis; tourdefrance; toutdefrance
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No word yet on which rider tested positive.
1 posted on 07/26/2006 11:13:16 AM PDT by commish
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To: commish

Probably the French one.


2 posted on 07/26/2006 11:14:47 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Democrats - The reason we need term limits)
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To: Ready4Freddy; BaBaStooey; green iguana; leilani; Republicain; Aeronaut; bray; Vision

PING


3 posted on 07/26/2006 11:15:00 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish

Must be a French rider. If he were American, they'd release his name immediately.


4 posted on 07/26/2006 11:16:17 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: coconutt2000

They also found other materials with him that are illegal in France...deoderant and shampoo.


5 posted on 07/26/2006 11:18:16 AM PDT by Quark606
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To: EQAndyBuzz

That would be ironic to say the least. The French had been trying to catch Lance Armstrong using steroids from the first year that he won the Tour de France. And when their worthless investigations always turned up nothing, they resorted to planting rumors in the media. I'm not a Lance groupie by any means, but the Frenchies doing this stuff are a bunch of idiots.


6 posted on 07/26/2006 11:21:53 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: commish

Given all the cryptic comments we heard during the Tour from the announcers, blogs etc., I'll lay odds it was a T-Mo rider - M.R.?(don't want to write out his name;innocent until proven guilty & all that, but all the sub-rosa comments lead me to think that he's the most likely.) I think we can all rest securely that it wasn't Landis.


7 posted on 07/26/2006 11:26:01 AM PDT by leilani
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To: leilani

Sounds plausible. I have seen that name being bandied about along with the surprise entrant on the podium (O.P.), but in the blogosphere T-MO is the top suspect.


8 posted on 07/26/2006 11:31:31 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: leilani

T-Mo makes sense considering what happened to Ulrich, but CSC/Ivan Basso were also linked to Eufemiano Fuentes, the Spanish doctor at the center of a suspected blood doping ring. I wonder if the unnamed rider is part of the same scandal.


9 posted on 07/26/2006 11:31:38 AM PDT by highimpact
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To: leilani

Floyd Landis didn't see a movie until he was 17, nor wear bike shorts until he was 18. I would bet my house it ain't him.


10 posted on 07/26/2006 11:33:30 AM PDT by laconic
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To: commish

I'll be really bummed if it's OP.


11 posted on 07/26/2006 11:34:28 AM PDT by leilani
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To: commish

Not sure what its like now, but I seem to recall say 15 years ago that it was generally assumed that all riders in the Tour De France were on something; they must have introduced new rules and testing.


12 posted on 07/26/2006 11:35:15 AM PDT by Mac1
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To: leilani

Am now seeing a lot of blog traffic saying it is Floyd Landis, and that the positive test is for Cortisone. Landis was given an OK by the TDF people to recieve Cortisone injections in his hip, but seeing as how the UCI has such a hard on to smear Armstrong, I can see them releasing this to cast doubt and smear Landis.


13 posted on 07/26/2006 11:40:33 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish

OMG! You're kidding! The cortisone shots were widely publicized. If they do this to discredit his win, I will swear off TdF forever. I'll take up Celebrity Poker before I'll spend another minute with the sport if they try to smear him.


14 posted on 07/26/2006 11:43:58 AM PDT by leilani
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To: leilani

I'm not sure if it was Rogers, although he did ride better than expected to a top 10 finish.

It seems most of the guys nailed in Operation Puerto were Spanish, with a few others like Ullrich and Basso (and Tyler Hamilton?) thrown in.

If this positive test is related to Op. Puerto, then I am tending to believe it is a Spanish rider. Hopefully not Pereiro or Sastre.


15 posted on 07/26/2006 11:47:49 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: commish

Dirtying-up Landis for an approved cortisone shot would be the last straw for me as well. The French were hailing Floyd for his solo stage win that literally brought him back from the dead. If the Tour needs to 'clarify' this immediately.


16 posted on 07/26/2006 11:49:28 AM PDT by Tallguy (The problem with this war is the name... You don't wage war against a tactic.)
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To: BaBaStooey

Speaking of Operation Puerto ---- that is the other big news breaking -- Joseba Beloki, Isidro Nozal, Sergio Paulinho, Allan Davis, Alberto Contador, and the Astana Team have been cleared of any wrongdoing in the investigation.


17 posted on 07/26/2006 11:50:32 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Tallguy
I agree -- but we need to take a wait and see approach. right now it all depends on which blog or forum you look at as to who it might be.

So far though the majority of suposition is on the three we have discussed - Rogers, Perreiro Sio and Landis.

18 posted on 07/26/2006 11:52:38 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish
The UCI said it wouldn't disclose the rider's name, team or nationality pending completion of the testing process.

If the testing process isn't complete yet, then no riders have tested possitive yet.

They need to complete the process and verify the results before making such accusations.

The only purpose to doing it this way is to smear someone's name before all the evidence is gathered.

Some idiots at the UCI need fired.

19 posted on 07/26/2006 12:27:51 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: commish

Sheesh. No names, just a nice brush to paint all the riders.


20 posted on 07/26/2006 12:31:12 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: untrained skeptic
I would suspect that they've completed testing on the 'A' sample, just haven't tested the 'B' yet. Doesn't look like they're trying to smear someone's name per this report - they haven't released the name. ;>)

...If the testing process isn't complete yet, then no riders have tested possitive yet....The only purpose to doing it this way is to smear someone's name before all the evidence is gathered.

21 posted on 07/26/2006 12:52:16 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
It wasn't steroids that were the main doping agent under suspicion, it was EPO and other blood-packing techniques. I still think LA had the best doping doctors & regimen that $$$ could buy.

The French had been trying to catch Lance Armstrong using steroids from the first year that he won the Tour de France

22 posted on 07/26/2006 12:55:37 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Hmmm, could be. I'm definitely no expert.


23 posted on 07/26/2006 12:59:04 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I'm not suggesting that LA's record deserves an asterisk, I think all the top dogs were playing with their blood in one way or another. Can't remember exactly what they popped Tyler Hamilton for at the Olympics, but I seem to remember him either being suspected or actually being caught at one time w/ someone else's blood in his system - total transfusion before a big race. Supposed to be a mistake, they used the wrong rider's bags o' blood, but the technique of transfusing your own blood is illegal in its own right.

My gut tells me that a protestation of '[insert favorite rider here] has never had a positive!!!' speaks not so much to their innocence, but more to the sophistication of the techniques used.

If the wall of silence ever gets a chink in it...

24 posted on 07/26/2006 1:08:12 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: commish

The UCI site still doesn't show any news update on this.


25 posted on 07/26/2006 1:15:09 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: untrained skeptic
Yup, last paragraph of the article confirms that. The names of the riders associated w/ each blood sample aren't known at the time of the 'A' testing, and they only look up the names of any who have a positive in the 'A'. Rider gets a chance to forego the 'B' test (essentially 'fessing up), or can require that the 'B' is tested.

I would suspect that they've completed testing on the 'A' sample, just haven't tested the 'B' yet.

26 posted on 07/26/2006 1:25:01 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy
I would suspect that they've completed testing on the 'A' sample, just haven't tested the 'B' yet. Doesn't look like they're trying to smear someone's name per this report - they haven't released the name. ;>)

The name usually gets leaked sooner or later. If the name doesn't get leaked, the report is used as a basis of rumors and used as the basis of a conspiracy theory that there was a cover-up if the final report says that there wasn't a problem.

Releasing this kind of report before the testing is complete serves no legitimate purpose.

27 posted on 07/26/2006 2:08:38 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: americanstrategist
They also found other materials with him that are illegal in France...deoderant and shampoo.

...and toothpaste.

28 posted on 07/26/2006 4:24:58 PM PDT by Aeronaut ("Endless repetition is not a coherent argument." —Thomas Sowell)
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To: commish
other big news breaking... Astana Team have been cleared of any wrongdoing in the investigation

Which means that Vinokourov was prevented from riding the TdF for no legitimate reason. I don't know who to be more disgusted with: the intransigent dopers on the bikes or the callously indifferent bureaucrats entrusted to administer the "cleanup" of this sport...

29 posted on 07/26/2006 4:33:27 PM PDT by leilani
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To: Aeronaut

...and backbone and a pair of balls.


30 posted on 07/26/2006 6:01:10 PM PDT by Quark606
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To: leilani
Waa Astana the team that simply didn't have enough riders left after the Puerto list came out?

Which means that Vinokourov was prevented from riding the TdF for no legitimate reason.

31 posted on 07/26/2006 6:25:29 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Thought so. Did I remember incorrectly? I thought Vino couldn't ride because Astana lost most of it's members to the OP dragnet. No?


32 posted on 07/26/2006 6:28:40 PM PDT by leilani
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To: commish
Here's the Astana list from Eurosport:

"Notably absent is Astana-Wurth rider and Tour de France hopeful Alexandre Vinokourov, but nine of the Kazakh's team-mates were implicated.

Astana Wurth:
Michele Scarponi (ITA),
Marcos Antonio Serrano (ESP),
David Etxebarria (ESP),
Joseba Beloki (ESP),
Angel Vicioso (ESP),
Isidro Nozal (ESP),
Unai Osa (ESP),
Jaksche Joorg (GER),
Giampaolo Caruso (ITA)"

Tho commish' post says that some of the guys on the list have been exonerated, looks like Astana simply didn't have enough peeps to field a team (gotta have 7 to play in the Tour). Bear in mind that most European squads have many riders on them, but only 10-12 that are Tour-quality at any given time. The rest are the 'farm team', and ride in other minor races, some even held in July.

I guess my point is - even w/ these exonerations, it doesn't mean that Vinko was not allowed to ride for 'no good reason', or however you put it. I just don't think they could put a team together. Unfortunate for him, to be sure.

33 posted on 07/26/2006 6:54:54 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: leilani

Ooops, meant to post #33 to you, m'lady!


34 posted on 07/26/2006 6:57:34 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Baynative; NittanyLion; nutmeg; Eurotwit; leilani; luv2ski; Vision; BaBaStooey; green iguana
Just saw this on eurosport.com - Levi Leipheimer is to be the new leader of DSC...

Leipheimer joins Discovery

35 posted on 07/26/2006 7:09:24 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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Must be a French rider. If he were American, they'd release his name immediately.

Yup.

36 posted on 07/26/2006 8:42:56 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Thanks for the ping, and for the news on Levi and Discovery. Pretty cool! :o)


37 posted on 07/26/2006 8:47:56 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Ready4Freddy
Tour de France ping!

Check out Ready4Freddy's post #35... Levi Leipheimer is to be the new leader of Team Discovery.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my Tour de France 2006 list.

38 posted on 07/26/2006 8:51:05 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg

'meg, looks like you didn't hit the TdF ping list for this?


39 posted on 07/26/2006 9:03:52 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Yes I did... in post #38 (I'm only online a short time tonight).


40 posted on 07/26/2006 9:05:23 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: Ready4Freddy
'meg, looks like you didn't hit the TdF ping list for this?

Whoa, Freddy... you're right! I just pinged you, and didn't ping the entire list. Geez, I'm feeling a bit under the weather tonight... and it's showing.

I'll re-ping the list here, then get to bed! :o)

Thank you. Sorry to ping you so many times on this thread...

41 posted on 07/26/2006 9:12:28 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: whattajoke; CyberCowboy777; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; stylin_geek; ...
Tour de France ping!

Check out Ready4Freddy's post #35... Levi Leipheimer is to be the new leader of Team Discovery.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my Tour de France 2006 list.

42 posted on 07/26/2006 9:13:44 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg

No problem at all, nutmeg!


43 posted on 07/26/2006 9:13:45 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It was Lance... had to be, the French hate him.


44 posted on 07/26/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by irishtenor (We survived Clinton in the 80s... we can survive her even when her husband is gone.)
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To: leilani
I'll take up Celebrity Poker before I'll spend another minute with the sport if they try to smear him.

How about dominoes? That's the next big thing. :)
45 posted on 07/26/2006 9:29:00 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
It wasn't steroids that were the main doping agent under suspicion, it was EPO and other blood-packing techniques. I still think LA had the best doping doctors & regimen that $$$ could buy.

Et tu, Brute? How can you say that? No one has ever been tested as much as Lance Armstrong. They show up at his house on a Saturday morning in the middle of February unannounced. There is no way he is dirty!

46 posted on 07/26/2006 9:29:17 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: commish

I saw this earlier on Cycling News. I hope this is not going to be yet another big and continuing story. I hate this crap.


47 posted on 07/26/2006 9:51:41 PM PDT by RichardW
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To: luv2ski

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1672684/posts?page=24#24


48 posted on 07/26/2006 10:16:32 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: commish
For your enjoyment:

A parody interview with everyone's hero Vino courtesy of the hilarious cycling blog www.bobkestrut.com.

An Army of One
Tuesday, June 27, 2006


Graham Watson photo

Come hell or high water, Alexandre Vinokourov will be rolling out of the TdF prologue start house this Saturday. And he won’t care if he’s the only man left on the Astana-Wurth roster legally able to compete in le Tour. In fact, he prefers to race that way. It’s not like he’s had any help from teammates in previous editions of the TdF.

It’s really a rather straightforward proposition: when the prime minister of Kazakhstan is #1 on your speed dial, when the prime minister of Kazakhstan is also the head of the cycling federation, when the prime minister of Kazakhstan counts certain “oil moguls” amongst his innermost circle of influence, when said Kazakh “oil moguls” bankroll the national sporting hero of Kazakhstan, there really isn’t too much to debate about whether Vino will race in France this year. I guarantee Christian Prudhomme has received a phone call or two from the steppes of Kazakhstan which has made his heart skip a beat. The team will likely only be dubbed “Astana” by Saturday, but no matter.

Here’s a peak into the inner workings of Vinokourov, facts that you may not be aware of:

1. How many Kazakhs does it take to fill out a ProTour roster?
AV: To answer said query: just one, if your name is Alexandre Vinokourov.

2. Don’t you need at least one teammate?
AV: I concede victory to your point. The victories in France, they shall flow freely like the crude of Kazakhstan. You’re right, count Andrey Kashechkin in too, Vino knows not the semantic means to gift stage wins to yourself having grown bored of victory itself. Besides, somebody will have to fetch my bidons. And bring honor to his mighty Kazakh national champion jersey already gifted his direction.

3. But aren’t there rules about a minimum roster size?
AV: There is only one rule…When Kazakh ‘oil moguls’ say jump, the ASO says “How high?” Vino laughs at your rules. 4. Aren’t you afraid of getting caught up on the Spanish Operación Puerto affair? AV: Hear my words, Alexandre Vinokourov takes nothing of the drugs. Or blood. Or hormones. In fact, I give you exclusive tip. DNA testing will show that all of the blood on ice, all of the hormones in refrigerator, it is all mine. I am so pure, so powerful, so mighty, that the European peloton dopes from my body. Tyler? His gold medal is awash with my blood. The blood of Vino flows through Jan Ullrich. The Spanish peloton? My all-natural, 49.99999999% hematocrit Kazakh blood powers them all. I am quite literally, a cycling machine.

5. Do you know who blew the whistle on the lab’s program?
AV: That would be Vino. So much the the blood, hormone, testosterone delivery program. I grew weary. Right now there is one speed in the peloton: the speed of Vinokourov. Everyone rides the fuel, the essence of Vinokourov. We need two speeds again, the speed of Vino and the slow speed of those not of Kazakhstan.

6. I just read a Samuel Abt article which stated you’re a part of the Kazakh military? Any comment?
AV: I am Major in the Kazakh army. Indeed, I am the Kazakh army. When Kazakhstan deploys its fighting force, it sends forth Alexandre Vinokourov alone to conquer. Vino is being sent forthwith to conquer France. And all holders of ProTour license.
49 posted on 07/27/2006 5:26:07 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: Ready4Freddy; Baynative; NittanyLion; nutmeg; Eurotwit; leilani; luv2ski; Vision; BaBaStooey

From cyclingnews:

"The UCI said that the rider, his team, his federation, his national anti-doping organisation, and the World Anti-Doping Agency have all been informed. So far, the federations of Belgium, France, Italy and Spain have all denied being contacted by the UCI. Yesterday, the US cycling federation also denied being contacted by the UCI, meaning the identity of the rider is still very much a mystery.

The CEO of Cycling Australia, told Cyclingnews that there had been no contact from the UCI in regard to anything concerning the 2006 Tour de France."

You may notice the absence of Germany in the list of nations denying...


50 posted on 07/27/2006 5:46:15 AM PDT by green iguana (Way to go Floyd!!!)
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