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Landis gives positive drugs test
BBC News ^ | 07/27/2006

Posted on 07/27/2006 7:35:10 AM PDT by Republicain

Tour de France winner Floyd Landis has given a positive drugs test, according to his Phonak team. The American, who claimed victory in the Tour de France on Sunday, has tested positive for the male sex hormone testosterone.

The positive test came after stage 17 of the Tour, which saw Landis record an epic victory after collapsing on the final climb the day before.

Landis has been suspended pending results of his B sample analysis.

The International Cycling Union (UCI) announced on Wednesday that a rider had failed a doping test but would not reveal his name.

"The Phonak Cycling Team was notified on Wednesday by the UCI of an unusual level of testosterone/epitestosterone ratio in the test made on Floyd Landis after stage 17 of the Tour de France," said a team statement.

"The team management and the rider were both totally surprised of this physiological result."


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: doping; landis; tourdefrance
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To: gogeo
What's the baseline for "normal"?

That is where Landis is going to run into big problems. In France the baseline is something like this....


41 posted on 07/27/2006 8:17:37 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: gopwinsin04
PHONAK has released a statement saying that both the team and Landis are "Totally shocked" at the outcome of the test. They have requested that the "B" sample be examined to determine if the result is possible because of a natural process (Cortisone/pain treatment) or if it was an erroneous result.

Phanak has suspended Landis, and said that if the "B" is positive and not explained that Landis will be fired from the team.

42 posted on 07/27/2006 8:17:49 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: gopwinsin04

Think so, but I'm not an expert on UCI rules at all.He can ask for the second sample to be tested if it holds he has to prove that there's a natural reason for it (the cortisone shots he had permission from TdF officials to take for his hip?) or he's stripped of the win & kicked out I think. This is really bad.


43 posted on 07/27/2006 8:19:02 AM PDT by leilani
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To: commish

So if it was a Cortisone shot he will be cleared?


44 posted on 07/27/2006 8:20:48 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Petronski; fortunecookie

here's more ping


45 posted on 07/27/2006 8:20:57 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: gopwinsin04
Yes...if he can prove that the cortinsone injections or some other natural process is causing the advanced levels --OR if the second sample does not show the elevated levels -- he will be cleared.

This is the exact reason they give two samples. One immediately after the race, and a B sample a short time later -- to ensure that any elevated levels are not the result of natural processes during the race.

46 posted on 07/27/2006 8:23:52 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Republicain

good grief *lol*


47 posted on 07/27/2006 8:25:08 AM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: funkywbr
He's either just plain stupid or just plain crazy...

You might want to wait until the testing is corroborated before making a judgment like that...

Just as there are all sorts of maneuvers to get around positive results, sometimes the tests themselves can be erroneous. In addition, the physiological causes of higher testosterone levels can be multiple including use of legal drugs as suggested above.

48 posted on 07/27/2006 8:28:01 AM PDT by vox_freedom
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To: vox_freedom

Guy on ESPN just said theat everytime an athelete has challenged a testosterone finding, they've prevailed. SO there is hope....


49 posted on 07/27/2006 8:31:39 AM PDT by leilani
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To: USNBandit

I think this French bashing has run its course. This stuff is very serious. The Tour would have no choice but to strip Landis of the win and award it to the runner-up Peierro. That would be one of the great ironies of all since Landis allowed him to recover all of that time.

Landis evidently made a Faustian bargain and his reputation and career will never recover if the "B" test confirms the positive finding. Phonek has already said they will fire him.

The only thing that will ever fix this problem is a lifetime ban on the first offense.

Such a shame. It breaks my heart.


50 posted on 07/27/2006 8:48:32 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: Republicain

His wife could have refused him sex the night before after the terrible result?

51 posted on 07/27/2006 8:50:54 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Jake The Goose
Is this really news anyone cares about?

Apparently you cared enough to click on the link...

52 posted on 07/27/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: vox_freedom
>You might want to wait until the testing is corroborated before making a judgment like that...

Not really. Honest
athletes in today's world
are like moderate

Muslims. They have done
nothing to weed out their ranks
of the villains, and

they've enabled them
in some ways (in pro tennis
athletes talk a lot

about how often
they're tested but don't mention
they're not tested for

common banned drugs like
growth hormone). Honest athletes,
moderate Muslims,

mainstream news people --
there is no more presumption
of innocence
here.

53 posted on 07/27/2006 9:20:04 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: ko_kyi
It is the amount that matters. If you have many times normal levels it is a red flag.

I'm not a doctor and I wish a doctor Freeper would comment, but isn't it true that you can get surges of testosterone from weight-lifting, sex, etc? It seems plausable to me that after Landis mind-boggling stage 17 performance his system would be flooded with the stuff.

54 posted on 07/27/2006 9:28:30 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: TomB

Apparently you cared enough to click on the link...
___________________________________________________

You got me there - thanks - that made me laugh out loud...

Great stuff


55 posted on 07/27/2006 9:32:31 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Jake The Goose

LOL. Reminds me of all the soccer haters on the World Cup threads who said "Who cares about soccer?" Obviously enough that they clicked on the links, again and again.


56 posted on 07/27/2006 9:34:00 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: garyhope
Yes, maybe if Landis has too much testosterone, he could loan some of it to the men of France who seem to have none of it.

ROTFLMFAO!!!

Best post EVER!

57 posted on 07/27/2006 9:36:02 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: RichardW

My guess is that alot of bikers will pass on the 2007 Tour De France...and you will see a rookie crowd of nobodies. Wouldn't even surprise if Amrstrong attempted a comeback.


58 posted on 07/27/2006 9:36:16 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Republicain
A question for any doctors in the house: is it possible to enhance performance with a one time dose of testosterone?

Landis broke during stage 16 and was written off by all the commentators. In the next stage his ride was widely considered the best single stage ride in the history of the tour. Could he have taken a desperate risk and shot himself up before stage 17?

59 posted on 07/27/2006 9:38:45 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: dfwgator

Yep...if I learned anything from this World Cup it's that some people passionately, intensely, maniacially don't care about soccer. LOL


60 posted on 07/27/2006 9:40:33 AM PDT by notfornothing
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