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STUPID FIREARMS QUESTIONS

Posted on 08/04/2006 9:29:09 AM PDT by 7thson

Alright, I am going to set myself up here for flaming and such - especially by certain @$$wipes who enjoy making themselves feel superior - by I have a couple questions concerning firearms.

Basic question one - what is the difference between a pistol and a revolver?

Basic question two - what is the difference between single action and double action?

Basic question three - which should a beginner go with - revolver, pistol, SA, or DA?


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1 posted on 08/04/2006 9:29:11 AM PDT by 7thson
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To: 7thson

What is best? Whatever the owner is comfortable with that will do the job.


2 posted on 08/04/2006 9:31:42 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: 7thson
A pistol is any handgun, while a revolver is a hand gun in which rounds are fired from a revolving chamber.

Single-action is when the trigger only releases the hammer.

Double-action is when the trigger cocks and releases the hammer so you don't have to cock the hammer manually.

3 posted on 08/04/2006 9:32:31 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: 7thson

All revolvers are pistols but not all pistols are revolvers. A .45 colt magazine-fed pistol is not a revolver, as you probably know. A single-action is cocked by the thumb on the hammer. A double action can be fired repeatedly by squeezing the trigger. I think a four-inch double action .357 would be best and shoot .38's in it until you're ready for the heavier kick.


4 posted on 08/04/2006 9:32:36 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Knowledge is power, so the MSM makes sure the terrorists have our classified info.)
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To: 7thson

If you're looking for a gun for a child, get them a rifle first. Raise a kid on a handgun and he'll become a thug. The handgun can even come a month after the rifle, but get the rifle first.

Revolvers (the ones with cylinders) are probably better to start with ... easier to maintain, easier to shoot, simple all the way around.


5 posted on 08/04/2006 9:32:39 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Ic þæt gehate, þæt ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furðor gan,)
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To: 7thson

A revolver has the drum loaded with rounds (like in the old west movies). A pistol has a magazine (like a 9mm). As for which to start with, I'd say go to a gun range and rent their weapons and see which one suits you best.

Be sure you can hit your target. That's what gun control is all about.


6 posted on 08/04/2006 9:32:44 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: 7thson
Anyone giving you gun advise will have superior knowledge on the subject and run the risk of being called names by you?

That's a great way to seek advise and make friends.

7 posted on 08/04/2006 9:33:49 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: 7thson

You're going to get at least 134 different opinions here.

Check this out and it will answer many of your questions.


http://www.all-about-handguns.com/Pistol/BUYING%20A%20HANDGUN%20FOR%20THE%20FIRST%20TIME.html


8 posted on 08/04/2006 9:34:03 AM PDT by Cagey
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To: 7thson

1. Revolvers are pistols. Pistols generally include revolvers and automatic pistols

2. With a single action pistol you have to manually pull the hammer back to be able to pull the trigger and fire the pistol. With a double action you can maunnaully pull the hammer back like a singel action but you can also pull the trigger to draw back the hammer and fire the weapon.

3. Get a revolver and an auto. You can never have too many guns.


9 posted on 08/04/2006 9:34:24 AM PDT by SeanOGuano
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To: 7thson

Can't flame someone with an honest question IMO, and FR is a great place to ask them.

Pistol: Any handgun.
Revolver: A hadgun that uses a revolving cylinder to hold the ammo.
Single action: The shooter has to cock the hammer (pull it back) before pulling the trigger.
Double action: Just point and shoot.

If your questions are this basic, take a training course before you even think of buying a gun. It will give you the info you need for your purchasing decision.


10 posted on 08/04/2006 9:35:03 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Yay! It's Riding Season!)
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To: 7thson
get started
11 posted on 08/04/2006 9:35:21 AM PDT by n230099 ("If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out.")
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To: 7thson

A revolver is a revolver, a pistol is a usually a semi-automatic (not quite sure where single shots, etc fall in this defiintion)

Single action (revolver) hammer must be maually cocked before firing.

Double action (revolver) pulling trigger will fire firearm.

Single action (pistol/semi-auto) Hammer is cocked by manual manipulation of slide for first shot. Cycling of action cocks each shot thereafter.

Double action (pistol/semi-auto) pulling trigger fires firearm for first shot, each shot thereafter can either be double action, or single action depending on design. (There's a lot of grey area in some definitions with the newer striker fired guns such as Glock, Springfield XD...)

FWIW I'm a big fan of Smith & Wesson (DA) revolvers, followed by 1911 type (SA) autos. Slim don't do plastic guns.


12 posted on 08/04/2006 9:35:22 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Crazier than a rattlesnake at a Thai wedding)
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To: 7thson
Basic question three - which should a beginner go with - revolver, pistol, SA, or DA?

For the beginner, most likely take the Double Action (DA) revolver versus the semi-automatic handgun. It's easier...

13 posted on 08/04/2006 9:37:29 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: 7thson

You are an 18-year retired vet of the Navy and you don't know the answer to these questions?

I'm very dissappointed in the US Navy training.


14 posted on 08/04/2006 9:37:37 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: 7thson
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Great antique gun porn at above URL.
15 posted on 08/04/2006 9:40:27 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: 7thson

Here goes what I think:

A pistol is a hand held short barrel weapon.
A revolver is a type of pistol.
A semi-automatic would be another type.
(fully automatic another type, but I'll leave that one out of this)
A revolver has a cylindrical 'magazine' which houses the ammunition to be fired. The cartridge to be fired is the one lined up to the barrel. A single action revolver would require you to physically cock the hammer back by hand which would rotate the cylinder at the same time, then pull the trigger to discharge the weapon.
A double action revolver would function as above, but also, you can just keep pulling the trigger and the mechanism inside will do the hammer cocking and cylinder rotating all at once.
A semi-auto would be similar, but no cylinder.
It would have a magazine loaded with cartridges. A single action (such as Colt 1911 style) would recuire you to rack the slide to load cartride and cock the hammer. Once thats done, you can keep pulling the trigger until the ammo's gone. The blowback will automatically chamber another round and cock the hammer. But, if the hammer isn't cocked, and you pull the trigger nothing will happen. Even if there is a round in the chamber. If the hammer isn't cocked, a trigger pull won't cock it.
A double action semi-auto would do that. A trigger pull would cause the hammer to cock and discharge the weapon. But, a trigger pull alone won't rack the slide and load the weapon. A round would already have to be in the chamber.


16 posted on 08/04/2006 9:40:37 AM PDT by Center Line Theory
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To: 7thson

In my opinion a revolver is not the best choice for a beginner, as most don't have a safety and also when loaded there is always a round under the firing pin as every round has it's own firing chamber.
With a semi auto pistol you can choose to not cock it (not put one in the pipe) so there is no round in the chamber this makes it safer to carry.


17 posted on 08/04/2006 9:41:15 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ((Newt is great in 2008))
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To: 7thson; Tijeras_Slim
This should be the gun you start with. Its one of the best and will last you a lifetime.
Single action semi-automatic .45. Im drooling just looking at it!!!

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18 posted on 08/04/2006 9:41:22 AM PDT by Delta 21 ( MKC USCG - ret)
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To: 7thson
There are no dumb questions when it comes to gun safety.
1. A semiautomatic is usually called a pistol but some people refer to revolvers as pistols.
2. Single action is where the hammer must be cocked. On semi's after the first round is fired the rest will be double action which means the slide will cock the hammer. On double actions semi's you can either cock hammer manually with your thumb or pull the trigger to cock and shoot. On single actions revolvers you must cock with thumb after each shot but on double actions revolvers again you can cock manually with thumb are pull the trigger.
3. Probably for a beginner a good double action revolver would be easier to adjust to. Such as a good snub nose .38 caliber.
19 posted on 08/04/2006 9:41:38 AM PDT by longhorn too
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To: wideawake

So, with a SA, you have to pull the hammer back first, and then fire?


20 posted on 08/04/2006 9:43:08 AM PDT by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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