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Posted on 08/04/2006 8:27:36 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
On August 4th, we found out that Lenovo Group, the company that has taken over IBM's Personal Computing Division, had made a deal with Novell Inc. to preload SLED 10 (SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop) on its ThinkPad T60p mobile workstation.
For the first time, a major OEM (original equipment manufacturer) has committed to preloading a Linux desktop.
(Excerpt) Read more at desktoplinux.com ...
Second, I think this is a great move for both Lenovo and Novell. Both companies have been in the doldrums recently. Both needed to shake things up. And, this, this is a move that will shake up not just the Linux desktop market, but the desktop market as a whole.
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Well, actually I'll keep dual-booting Win2K, but at least I no longer have to expose Windows to the Internet and have it slowly grind to a halt with worms and viruses.
I set up my wife's internet machine with SUSE 10; I'm impressed with it and if it weren't for the applications I have, I'd dump W2K for it.
Ok, now get rid of Kubuntu and get Mepis 6 :) hehe
Spiffy. SuSE was the first distro I ever used.
Wow! You got a winmodem to work? Hardware modems are known to be cereal-box easy, but winmodems have been traditionally hard.
Congrats.
^^^^^^^^^but at least I no longer have to expose Windows to the Internet and have it slowly grind to a halt with worms and viruses.^^^^^^^^^
I don't expect you to, but I have commented before in past FR postings that a windows box that is isolated away from the internet is a pretty sweet setup.
Yeah, I along with a few family members run suse 10.1.
I tried Mepis, but it did not install the ltmodem driver for the Winmodem, and there is a different version for every kernel.
Also, Kubuntu recognized my USR5410 wireless card out of the box, and I was able to install the driver for my backup RT2500 wireless card with a couple of clicks on Synaptic, and they both work.
Kubuntu uses the Adept package manager by default, but if you insall Synaptic it lets you connect to some unsupported repositories where you can install all kinds of cool stuff like eclipse. Plus it installs OpenGL drivers if you have a graphics card that supports them.
At this point, I'd say Ubuntu/Kubuntu beats XP in hardware suppport and ease of installation, especially now that Microsoft is making it such a pain in the @$$ to confirm that you are running a "genuine" version of XP.
There is a millionaire Russian cosmonaut who has funded Ubuntu, and his plan is to make Ubuntu the standard desktop throughout the world, and if Microsoft keeps cooperating he may just do it.
How shocking a Chinese computer company is pushing Linux just like the government that owns them. /sarcasm
Well good for him, but I'll be rooting for American companies instead.
Actually, the guy's name is Mark Shuttleworth--he's South African, I believe.
Why not root for the best product?
That's as American as you can get.
But you union guys don't care about that kind of stuff.
I love my MEPIS distro.
It has renewed my old Compaq Armada M700.
And Mepis is a friendly distro -- SUSE is more severe.
You'll be happy to know that, after handing over $1.5 billion to IBM for the privilige, they are losing their asses.
Unlike you, I believe that America's best days are ahead of her, and she can outcompete anybody and everybody.
You, on the other hand, believe America is over and protectionism is our only hope.
It must suck to be you.
LOL! thats one way to put it! :D
Because I'm willing to sacrifice for my country, something you obviously have no understanding of.
But you union guys don't care about that kind of stuff.
No union guy here, been in MIS/IT all my life, where we thankfully have no unions. Funny watching you try to paint me as a leftist while you drape yourself in foreign flags.
Choosing U.S. products over foreign ones isn't protectionism. It's a personal decision to support America and Americans, instead of China and Chinese.
^^^^^^^^^Because I'm willing to sacrifice for my country, something you obviously have no understanding of.^^^^^^^^^^
That's the most assinine thing I've heard in a while.
So using an MS OS = sacrificing for your country? And people call me a computer nerd!
So apparently using an MS OS = sacrificing for your country. I guess that's the new enlisting? I dunno. LOL
Let the jestering continue...............
At least he admitted using windows over Linux is a sacrifice ;)
Actually I'm using BSD and Solaris on the desktop right now. They're no sacrifice when compared to your foreign Linux either.
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The ltmodem driver is available in Mepis, you just have to install it with Synaptic.
For the record, most people who compare Mepis and Kubuntu head to head usually like Mepis more. I've used both and can say the same. Of course, if you like Kubuntu, then more power to ya.
Right now, I have Mepis 6 on my office computer, as well as my laptop, which is fully configured for network, wireless, and dialup. Pretty cool.
Same here...
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I may give Mepis another try. Thanks.
LOL
Join the Army, then sacrifice for our country. Until then, just shut the hell up.
True, true...
I've always been suspicious of "Buy American" and believe it hurts us in the long run because it breaks the basic rules of economics (capitalism). If American products are inferior, yet people keep buying them, then the businesses have no incentive to improve. Meanwhile, foreigners will be forced to make better products to convince the "Buy Americans" to buy their products.
Our products will be more inferior, theirs more superior, and our industry will lose in the end because you can only hold off the laws of economics for so long. And it's not only internal, because other countries will buy other foreign products when ours suck, thus our exports go down.
Of course, if you want to "Buy American" you can always go with IBM, Red Hat, Novell, Cisco, TiVO, Linspire, Oracle, MontaVista, Terra Soft Solutions, etc., all American companies.
Well, at least we have him on record now as admitting that using Microsoft products are a sacrifice.
I know.
Get real. American software products are the best, which is why they dominate. A few foreign clones aren't going to change that anytime soon.
LOL. You're the one who called using MS products a "sacrifice". For once I'd have to agree with you.
I never said using Microsoft products was a sacrifice, because I don't agree with his opinion Linux is superior, nor do most people. Deal with it.
Well, when you use Windows, you sacrifice something alright...you sacrifice your security.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Out of all that he said, that was all that you could bring yourself to reply to, that was the line that was easiest to twist into your own little world view...........
You need to stop reading the NY Times and looking at forged pics from Reuters.
Try addressing reality for a change.
AMAZING! You've already forgotten what you typed at post 19.
Wow! What a coincedence. Mine too!!!!!
You write that ignoring the negative effects I stated.
Your twisted view is no different than voting Democrat in an attempt to send Republicans a message. Will it make a difference, who knows, but without question you're aiding others who would like to see Republicans stamped out, or in this case, foreigners who would like to completely destroy the U.S. economy. And in your view that would be just fine, since you're completely happy buying stuff from outside the U.S., so long as it suits your shortsided selfish personal needs.
Sort of like how we dominate in ERP solutions? I believe SAP (the third largest software company in the world, behind MS and Oracle) dominates that market. Microsoft is trying to get in this market with Microsoft Dynamics (formerly Microsoft Business Solutions).
On the average we make the best software. But blanket statements don't work.
This doesn't look very safe to me either, then.
http://lwn.net/Alerts/Red_Hat/
Recent Red Hat security alerts
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