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Suspect Confesses To JonBenet Ramsey Murder Thai Official Says
MSNBC ^ | 8-17-2006 | MSNCB

Posted on 08/16/2006 11:53:09 PM PDT by Lurker

BANGKOK, Thailand - Thai police said Thursday that a 41-year-old American man has admitted to the killing a decade ago of 6-year-old beauty queen JonBenet Ramsey in the United States.

Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul, head of Thailand's immigration police, told The Associated Press that John Mark Karr confessed to the killing after his arrest Wednesday at a downtown Bangkok apartment.

"He told police while under arrest that he did kill the girl but so far he has not pleaded guilty in writing. This is needed as official evidence," Suwat said.

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1 posted on 08/16/2006 11:53:10 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: Lurker

CNN has a news conference on LIVE right now...


2 posted on 08/16/2006 11:55:57 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative
Even though one of my TVs is always set to CNN, I simply refuse to turn up the volume.

I'll wait for something from Fox.

I get the News Alerts from PMSNBC though. It being a slow night I thought I'd post it.

Thanks,

L

3 posted on 08/17/2006 12:00:07 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Lurker

If he did it, I would like to know the reason for that ransom note. What was the purpose of that? That really never made much sense to me. Did he kidnap her, write and leave the note, then kill and return her to the basement, or did he try to make it look like a kidnapping gone wrong?


4 posted on 08/17/2006 12:00:45 AM PDT by Screamname (Batman and Godzilla : When will they fight?)
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To: Lurker

They think he is linked to another case in Santa Rosa CA (no dates given)


5 posted on 08/17/2006 12:02:04 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Lurker

I confess to believing the parents did it. :(


6 posted on 08/17/2006 12:03:13 AM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: stlnative

Watching on MSNBC too.


7 posted on 08/17/2006 12:04:14 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Lurker

The dude is real creepy and nerdy looking. (they showed him earlier and he is kinda a small guy, real thin, and looks like he has female breasts. (no kidding)


8 posted on 08/17/2006 12:05:05 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: beaversmom

I'd say they have the right perp. Thank God they caught him!


9 posted on 08/17/2006 12:06:45 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: beaversmom

Karr is claiming the killing Jon Benet was an accident.


10 posted on 08/17/2006 12:08:01 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: All

Karr has been out of the USA for several years now and has not returned during those several years.


11 posted on 08/17/2006 12:09:42 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Lurker

bttt


12 posted on 08/17/2006 12:10:38 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Lurker


13 posted on 08/17/2006 12:13:33 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Crazieman

I was never really sure about that. I do think that they were *really, really* weird.


14 posted on 08/17/2006 12:13:39 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: All

Kerr has been suspect for quite some time. (it sounds like they were having problems trying to locate him since he was not in the USA) - They suspected he was in Thailand for a few months and have been working with Thailand authorities for about 2 months.


15 posted on 08/17/2006 12:14:17 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Check out post #13.


16 posted on 08/17/2006 12:14:22 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Lurker
If there is a witnessed confession overseas and a DNA match, that would be a game, set and match no mater what pictures his brother finds from a past Xmas and in the family wants to be the alibi.

The brother already screwed his possibility of that by on air saying he had no direct recollection, didn't know he was overseas and had no knowledge if he was still married.

They were not close and the prospect of a Thai prison for a decade or more surely facilitated the confession considering the prisons down there.
17 posted on 08/17/2006 12:17:25 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: nopardons; onyx

Kerr told officials that he and JonBenet fell in love with each other .. that it was an accident


18 posted on 08/17/2006 12:18:37 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Screamname

He may not have originally planned a murder and the note could have been some form of cover for his crime maybe.

He could have been crazy and needed no reasons.


19 posted on 08/17/2006 12:19:00 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Mo1
that it was an accident

I mean .. he says he killed her by accident

20 posted on 08/17/2006 12:19:24 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: A CA Guy; nopardons
Sheesh. My wife was born and raised in Petaluma.

I can't wait to tell her this when I get home this morning.

In an incredible coincidence my wife was also peripherally involved as a witness in the Polly Klaas case. This is going to creep her out no end.

L

21 posted on 08/17/2006 12:19:59 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Mo1

Yeah... he choked her a bit longer and hit her a bit harder than he meant to.


22 posted on 08/17/2006 12:20:11 AM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: Mo1
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!

That's just sick, sick, SICK!

23 posted on 08/17/2006 12:21:30 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: antceecee

I didn't catch the beginning .. how did he first meet her?


24 posted on 08/17/2006 12:21:49 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Mo1
I have a feeling some lifer in the Colorado prison system is going to be the cause of many 'accidents' for Mr. Karr.

I know some folks think it's evil to wish bad things like repeated homosexual gang rapes on convicted criminals. I'm not one of those people.

I hope this monster spends the rest of his hopefully short and miserable life being passed around like candy amongst the long term residents of the Colorado Penal System.

L

25 posted on 08/17/2006 12:23:38 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Lurker

Just saw a replay of Scarborough with Marc Klaas saying he still suspectst the Ramseys.


26 posted on 08/17/2006 12:24:12 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Lurker

Make sure you give your wife LOTS of hugs and make her feel "safe". This news WILL hit her far too close to home.


27 posted on 08/17/2006 12:25:03 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1

Sorry... didn't catch it either... hope you know I had my subliminal 'sarcasm' going with my last comment....


28 posted on 08/17/2006 12:27:05 AM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: nopardons
She's already got a pretty good case of the creeps from the Klaas case.

They found that girls body 75 yards from the front door of the house my wife was dog sitting in. She drove past the perps car on her way into the property.

She still cries about that. She thinks she may have been able to do something to help that poor child.

L

29 posted on 08/17/2006 12:29:26 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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To: Lurker; All

http://times-news.com/feeds/apcontent/apstories/apstorysection/D8JI12DG1.xml.txt/resources_apstoryview

~SNIP~

Suwat said Karr's visa has been revoked because he was regarded as an "undesirable person" since he is accused of a crime in the United States. He said he expected American officials to take Karr back to the United States in the next few days.

Suwat said Karr arrived in Bangkok on June 6 from Malaysia to look for a teaching job. It was not clear whether he had gotten a job, the police officer said.

Karr has been in Thailand four times over the past two years, police said.

~SNIP~


30 posted on 08/17/2006 12:30:59 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Lurker
Oh gee, NOT a good thing and now this news.

I mean it........hug her a LOT and try to convince her that there really was NO WAY she could have done anything to help.

31 posted on 08/17/2006 12:31:16 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: antceecee
hope you know I had my subliminal 'sarcasm' going with my last comment....

Yea .. I picked it up

32 posted on 08/17/2006 12:31:51 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Screamname
What was the purpose of that?
Is he sane? Insane people do irrational things.
33 posted on 08/17/2006 12:32:05 AM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: Lurker

Karr's ex-wife says he was fascinated with the JonBenet Ramsey case and the Polly Klaas case.


34 posted on 08/17/2006 12:32:48 AM PDT by beaversmom
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Just got home from work. Heard about this before going in. There's a presser on right now?


35 posted on 08/17/2006 12:33:03 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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To: Mo1

; ~ )


...smarty pants!


36 posted on 08/17/2006 12:33:33 AM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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One more thing, John Mark Karr had a myspace account(it appears).

The main account was deleted, but he was listed as a friend to a current member who is an 18 year old male living in Petaluma.

You can only see it under a cached link from google and there is a picture of what appears could be Karr in a distant kind of picture in a girls wig and dress.
37 posted on 08/17/2006 12:33:35 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
They were not close and the prospect of a Thai prison for a decade or more surely facilitated the confession considering the prisons down there.

He was not and is not charged by the Thai police for anything. He was only picked up after the US official requested it.
38 posted on 08/17/2006 12:34:52 AM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: A CA Guy

Do you have a link?


39 posted on 08/17/2006 12:34:57 AM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: A CA Guy

do you have the cached link?


40 posted on 08/17/2006 12:35:57 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: A CA Guy

You don't think that was his son?


41 posted on 08/17/2006 12:36:24 AM PDT by NinoFan
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http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/news/nation/15293129.htm

~SNIP~

One report said the suspect was identified after he started e-mailing a Colorado journalist who had covered the child's murder case. The e-mails displayed inside knowledge of the case, according to a report on the ABC News Web site.

Ramsey attorney Lin Wood said Wednesday the suspect was not recently discovered but had been known to authorities for a while. "This individual has been under investigation for an extended period of time," he told MSNBC.

~SNIP~


42 posted on 08/17/2006 12:37:02 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Lurker

Not likely.

Babykillers have a very, very short lifespan in prison. Shortly followed by babyrapers.


43 posted on 08/17/2006 12:37:43 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Mo1

In love with a six year old? Sick, sick, sick......


44 posted on 08/17/2006 12:38:10 AM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: antceecee; A CA Guy; stlnative

I think this is the link to the post that mentioned myspeace

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685007/posts?page=162#162


45 posted on 08/17/2006 12:38:21 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: dougherty

yes it is

I'm still trying to figure out how he knew her before she was murdered


46 posted on 08/17/2006 12:39:18 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: A CA Guy; Lurker
If there is a witnessed confession overseas and a DNA match, that would be a game, set and match no mater what pictures his brother finds from a past Xmas and in the family wants to be the alibi.

How is it that a DNA match wasn't made back in 1997 or 1998? This pervert was a suspect back then. This sounds like a sloppy police investigation.

47 posted on 08/17/2006 12:40:00 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: antceecee

This could be the cached link:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:kSUjykx4_B0J:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friendid%3D79427922+john+mark+karr+II+myspace+account&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

Looks down under the friends on the right.
John Mark Karr apparently in a distant picture in a wig and dress (IMO).


48 posted on 08/17/2006 12:40:01 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

His profile page said John Mark Karr II, which implies the son. Although the creep is tiny, it looks a little too tiny to be the father.


49 posted on 08/17/2006 12:41:19 AM PDT by NinoFan
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To: nopardons
Yea, I'm glad she's home in bed now. I'll monitor this one during my shift tonite and distill things down for her in the morning before she goes to work.

She took the Klaas thing pretty hard obviously. She actually drove by the guys car. God, that gives me the willies. Then she was out on the property all night by herself watching a friends dogs.

She has never been back there and her friend sold the place shortly after. The sick f*** who killed that little girl did a lot more damage than some folks realize.

We've talked about it a lot and I think she realizes in her head that there was nothing she could have done. The poor child was already dead. But in her heart she's convinced that if she'd just called 911 something might have been done to save Polly.

So, I not only give Mrs. L lots of hugs, I'm not stingy about them with Lurker Jr or for that matter close friends and family. If I've learned anything in the last few years it's how quickly people you love can be taken from you.

There's one moment in my life I really, really regret not taking a close friend by the hand and telling him how much I loved him. I'll not make that mistake again.

You take care,

L

50 posted on 08/17/2006 12:41:33 AM PDT by Lurker (I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
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