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Legal analyst: Break in (JonBenet) Ramsey case could be Hoax
WTSP TV - Channel 10 ^ | August 17, 2006 | WTSP TV - Channel 10

Posted on 08/17/2006 1:41:53 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin

Legal analyst: Break in Ramsey case could be hoax

DENVER (KUSA) - 9NEWS legal analyst Scott Robinson believes there are still too many questions about the suspect, John Mark Karr, to feel confident about conviction.

“In this particular case when you have an uncorroborated confession, I think it’s good to be cynical and to be skeptical,” Robinson said. “The suspect seems to be ducking questions about his connection to the Ramsey family… how the little girl came to be in the basement with him in the first place.”

Robinson believes one thing is clear, however. This is the biggest development in the case so far.

“This is either the break that we have all been waiting for, or the biggest hoax that’s ever been perpetrated in the JonBenet Ramsey case, a case that has had its share of wacky people involved in it.”

However, DNA evidence could make this an open and shut case in a very short period of time.

“If they can tie [Karr] to the Ramsey home, or to any of the physical evidence at the scene… the case is pretty much done and over,” Robinson said.

“These days you can get a presumptive DNA test done in a day if you have good tissue and certainly a definitive result in a week. So we will know pretty soon if there is a DNA match,” Robinson explained after being asked how long it might take to get this evidence evaluated.

The problem Robinson is concerned with is what happens if the DNA evidence is inconclusive.

“His father says this is a young man who became obsessed with the case and wrote about it for a college paper. That sets the stage for a potential defense that [Karr] didn’t commit the crime, he’s just obsessed with it.”

Will the various issues with compromised evidence and crime scene have a major impact on the outcome of the case? Robinson believes it may help the prosecution as much as it could help the defense.

“That’s a sword that cuts both ways. For those advocating his guilt, perhaps that’s why his DNA was not found at the scene, because the scene was hopelessly compromised in the first few moments of the investigation.”

When asked if he believed the day of an arrest would ever arrive, he responded with conviction.

“Never! Ever! It’s an extraordinary development,” Robinson said. “What we are looking at here is either: the biggest break ever in the JonBenet Ramsey case, or the biggest hoax since the young girl’s body was found in the basement.”

From our sister station KUSA-TV in Denver, All Rights Reserved


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KEYWORDS: hoax; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; karr; notbreaking; ramsey
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This case is looking sketchier.
1 posted on 08/17/2006 1:41:56 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin
This case is looking sketchier.

I agree, the who thing seems screwy. It's like Karr has wanted to be part of this case all along. We shall see.
2 posted on 08/17/2006 1:43:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Arec Barrwin
However, DNA evidence could make this an open and shut case in a very short period of time.
3 posted on 08/17/2006 1:43:41 PM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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To: Arec Barrwin

This doesn't belong in breaking news. It's a report by a local legal analyst.


4 posted on 08/17/2006 1:44:47 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Arec Barrwin

Cynicism is a way of life for some of us here at FR, a Rush to Judgment is the order of the day for others.

We'll know soon enough.

He may be working on a book for all we know and is just getting some pre-publicity.


5 posted on 08/17/2006 1:44:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Very wierd.....I'm not thinking he did it.....but WHY would anyone do THIS??


6 posted on 08/17/2006 1:44:57 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Just returned from DU where the nutjobs think this is a Rovian plot to distract from Ned Lamont's "momentum." Then again, what don't they consider a Rovian plot.


7 posted on 08/17/2006 1:45:20 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: Arec Barrwin
Suspect is a fruit loop.

I think it's safe to say that apologies to the Ramsey family can be deferred for the moment.

8 posted on 08/17/2006 1:46:02 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Arec Barrwin

Put me in the skeptical camp also.


9 posted on 08/17/2006 1:46:46 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Arec Barrwin
Unfortunately it's looking that way. This Karr guy had been exchanging emails with a college prof for quite sometime. I bet he instructed Karr to pull this UNFUNNY little stunt to get him out of whatever trouble he might have been in Thai! Something is outta wack here. I hope I'm wrong so that the family can finally get some peace!
10 posted on 08/17/2006 1:47:08 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Arec Barrwin

Seems to me he`s one of those wackos who gets off fantasizing about killing kids and this whole "confession" stuff is one more way for him to get his rocks off, make it real in his mind. Is he Islamic?


11 posted on 08/17/2006 1:47:11 PM PDT by Screamname (Batman and Godzilla : When will they fight?)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Another theory I heard early on is that he was facing who knows what in Thailand, he knew about the Ramsey case, and just used the confession to get back to the states to avoid the Dark Hole of Siam or something like that.


12 posted on 08/17/2006 1:48:40 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Tom Gallagher - the anti-Crist [FL Governor, 2006 primary])
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To: NinoFan

"This doesn't belong in breaking news. It's a report by a local legal analyst."

Hmmm, I don't see it in my sidebar... perhaps you are reading the title and reading something in it:

"Legal analyst: Break in (JonBenet) Ramsey case could be Hoax"


13 posted on 08/17/2006 1:49:49 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim: Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: NormsRevenge
Cynicism is a way of life for some of us here at FR, a Rush to Judgment is the order of the day for others.

Why restrict it to just FR? The world. LOL

14 posted on 08/17/2006 1:50:43 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: Callahan
Just returned from DU...

Thank for checking them out for us, Callahan. I love to hear what the DUmmies are freaking out about now!

15 posted on 08/17/2006 1:50:48 PM PDT by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Arec Barrwin

According to what I've read and heard, there are a lot of people crazy enough to "confess" to crimes they didn't do. That may well be the case here. I do know that this guy was one of the men named by the Ramseys to police, but don't know the particulars.


16 posted on 08/17/2006 1:50:56 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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To: RoseofTexas

something's definitely odd, but the authorities have said this guy possesses info only thew killer would know, then there should at least be a way to track that info from this guy back to the killer, who would have shared such info with him.


17 posted on 08/17/2006 1:51:33 PM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Condor 63

To a glorious hell-bent few, it is the world. ;-)


18 posted on 08/17/2006 1:52:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: Arec Barrwin

It could be a hoax, but I find it difficult to believe, with all the other law enforcement involved, state and federal and overseas, and all the agencies involved, that they would all go along on this if all Boulder had was some emails.

But I admit, he looks more and more like someone just yearning for attention and involvement in this case in any way he can get it.


19 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:09 PM PDT by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: Suzy Quzy
". . . but WHY would anyone do THIS??"

To get out of Thailand - wasn't he up on child pornography charges there? I mean, who would want to spend even 1 day in a Thai jail?

20 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:42 PM PDT by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Or he got caught and is now playing the crazy card to avoid the death penalty.


21 posted on 08/17/2006 1:57:16 PM PDT by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: ameribbean expat

Karr's ex-wife thinks he is creepy. She was interviewed by a San Jose paper earlier. She has no reason, on the surface, to lie. And yet she claims he was in Alabama with her for Christmas when the murder occurred. His presence in Alabama can easily be corroborated, one way or the other.


22 posted on 08/17/2006 1:59:04 PM PDT by Arec Barrwin
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To: Arec Barrwin

The evidence in the case (tainted by police mishandling):

-DNA found under JonBenet's fingernails,
-The cord found around her neck and the duct tape across her mouth,
-A pubic hair found on her blanket,
-The ransom note,
-The stun gun that might have been used to subdue her,
-A palm print found on the cellar door,
-A footprint of a Hi-Tec hiking boot found near her body.

If the DNA or palm print matches, this guy's toast.... If not, we have another case like the Duke Rugby Scandal underway where the DA is out of touch.


23 posted on 08/17/2006 2:02:14 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: ameribbean expat
something's definitely odd...

I'll say. Especially the ransom note in Patsy's handwriting.

24 posted on 08/17/2006 2:02:57 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Arec Barrwin



Guilty or not..he is still creepy.


25 posted on 08/17/2006 2:05:54 PM PDT by Busywhiskers (Delenda est Hezbollah)
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To: Callahan

That's funny, I figured they'd just blame it on Bush.


26 posted on 08/17/2006 2:12:39 PM PDT by bigbob (2)
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To: apackof2

Yup.
susie


27 posted on 08/17/2006 2:21:37 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: NonValueAdded

No, really here's the deal. He is like Alison Dubois on Medium, so when he says he was there, he really just watched it in his mind, and...well....never mind....
This case has been so weird from the get go.
susie


28 posted on 08/17/2006 2:23:25 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: truthkeeper

Actually, I thought they only said they could not exclude Patsy as the writer of the note, not that she for sure wrote it.
But then I don't know much about handwriting analysis.
susie


29 posted on 08/17/2006 2:25:48 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Arec Barrwin
When asked if he believed the day of an arrest would ever arrive, he responded with conviction.

“Never! Ever! It’s an extraordinary development,” Robinson said. “What we are looking at here is either: the biggest break ever in the JonBenet Ramsey case, or the biggest hoax since the young girl’s body was found in the basement.”


So no, there will never be a conviction, even if it's Choice A, "the biggest break ever"?

I don't get it.
30 posted on 08/17/2006 2:28:45 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: RoseofTexas
I bet he instructed Karr to pull this UNFUNNY little stunt to get him out of whatever trouble he might have been in Thai!

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Karr was arrested at his apartment.

He was not in Thai custody until we asked that they pick him up.

Ergo, he was not in "trouble in Thailand" until we made trouble for him.
31 posted on 08/17/2006 2:30:18 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Suzy Quzy
Very wierd.....I'm not thinking he did it.....but WHY would anyone do THIS??

Actually, false confessions in heavily publicized murder cases are quite common. The world is filled with cranks and people who are three bricks short of a load.

32 posted on 08/17/2006 2:30:24 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Suzy Quzy

I think he just wanted to get back to the USA & not end up in a jail there.


33 posted on 08/17/2006 2:30:49 PM PDT by jrcats
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To: NonValueAdded

Ping to my 31. He was NOT in trouble in Thailand.


34 posted on 08/17/2006 2:30:52 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: jackibutterfly
wasn't he up on child pornography charges there?

If you call California (where the child-porn charges originated) Thailand, then yes, he was "up on child pornography charges there."
35 posted on 08/17/2006 2:31:53 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: brytlea

You could be right...it's been so many years. But I do recall quite of bit of talking head yakking about this point at the time.


36 posted on 08/17/2006 2:34:07 PM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: Xenalyte
"Ergo, he was not in "trouble in Thailand" until we made trouble for him."

I believe I heard that he was about to begin a job teaching a second grade class in Thailand.

37 posted on 08/17/2006 2:34:28 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: truthkeeper

I do too, but it was mentioned on the news yesterday (that she couldn't be excluded, not that they were sure she wrote it). That's the only reason I knew that. (or, perhaps it's not true anyway--this case has more twists and turns!)
susie


38 posted on 08/17/2006 2:38:48 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: brytlea
"Actually, I thought they only said they could not exclude Patsy as the writer of the note, not that she for sure wrote it."

One book I read said that Patsy could write with her left hand, a fact known to those close to her, and to her old friends from her younger days, but not to the police so they never asked her to submit a left-handed sample.

39 posted on 08/17/2006 2:45:58 PM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Xenalyte
He was not in Thai custody until we asked that they pick him up.

[hands over ears]NOT LISTENING! NOT LISTENING![hands still over ears]
40 posted on 08/17/2006 2:46:17 PM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: ameribbean expat

The problem with a 10 year old case like this is what exactly is there that "only the killer" could know. For one thing they really mean "only the killer and the cops" because if the cops didn't know it then how can they know it's true when the confessed killer says it. For another lots and lots of cops have been on this case for various lengths of time and at least some of them (by pure statistical reality of how people are) have blabbed something they probably shouldn't have. I certainly hope that he's the guy and they've got enough evidence and he fries, but the whole Alabama thing makes me think it's probably none of the above.


41 posted on 08/17/2006 2:48:36 PM PDT by discostu (you must be joking son, where did you get those shoes)
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To: Irene Adler

Well, it's too late for that now.

susie


42 posted on 08/17/2006 2:53:19 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Suzy Quzy
Very wierd.....I'm not thinking he did it.....but WHY would anyone do THIS??

Guy on another thread had a very plausible idea: you're a pedophile in a Thai jail. Not liking the idea of spending years in a Third World jail, you make up a story so you can be extradited to the US.

43 posted on 08/17/2006 2:53:26 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: SauronOfMordor

He was not in jail in Thailand.


44 posted on 08/17/2006 2:56:01 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
He was not in jail in Thailand.

Thailand?

45 posted on 08/17/2006 3:17:53 PM PDT by OSHA (Lose money FAST playing penny stocks. Ask me how!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I rush to cynical judgement, because that's usually the shortest route to the truth ;)


46 posted on 08/17/2006 3:24:10 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: OSHA

He was arrested at his apartment.


47 posted on 08/17/2006 3:32:29 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Callahan

Lamont is going to lose if you believe polls. Those DUer's have no concept of reality.


48 posted on 08/17/2006 3:34:45 PM PDT by nyconse
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To: Arec Barrwin; Palladin

I am starting to have some doubts. He is probably mentally ill.


49 posted on 08/17/2006 3:39:51 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Wars may be fought by weapons, but they are won by men.- General George Patton)
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To: garbageseeker

It is all very strange, but we don't know what evidence has been withheld in the case.


50 posted on 08/17/2006 3:49:54 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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