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Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologiesHolocaust was fallout of evolution theory
World Net Daily ^ | Posted: August 19, 2006 | World Net Daily

Posted on 08/19/2006 6:39:43 AM PDT by RaceBannon

Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologies Holocaust was fallout of evolution theory, says new production

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 19, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Charles Darwin should share with Hitler the blame for the 11 million or more lives lost in the Holocaust, a new television special explains. And, the program says, the more than 45 million American lives lost to abortion also can be blamed on that famous founder of evolutionary theory.

The results of Darwin’s theories

"This show basically is about the social effects of Darwinism, and shows this idea, which is scientifically bankrupt, has probably been responsible for more bloodshed than anything else in the history of humanity," Jerry Newcomb, one of two co-producers, told WorldNetDaily.


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To: RaceBannon
Evolution says SURVIVAL of the FITTEST, and that means superior, does it not?

No, it does not. The evolutionary survival is based on the number of the offspring. So people with PhD having one child on the average are dying out, while if people without high school diploma having three children are taking over.

It is fertility, stupid. Read my tagline.

21 posted on 08/19/2006 7:01:07 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: Non-Sequitur

It was way too hot here yesterday. Now I know why. Darwinddidit. :-)


22 posted on 08/19/2006 7:02:29 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: RaceBannon
Evolution says SURVIVASL of the FITTEST, and that means superior, does it not?

First, Darwin did not coin this phrase, and as a matter of fact, hated it.

Second, the phrase, when properly understood, refers to a given environment. What is most fit in one environment can be least fit in another.

Moreover, the idea that most fit refers to a characteristic of brains reflects the biases of the reader. Fitness can be the result of any combination of characteristics that allow an organism to reproduce most successfully in a given environment.

23 posted on 08/19/2006 7:02:32 AM PDT by freespirited (No pair has been more wrong, more loudly,more often than the two Senators from Massachusetts.-Zell)
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To: RaceBannon
If you connect enough dots no matter how far apart and make tremendous leaps of logic across huge chasms, yeah you can make almost anything seem linear connected.

Six degrees of Kevin Bacon gone wacko

24 posted on 08/19/2006 7:02:48 AM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: RaceBannon
Evolution supported ALL of Hitler's racial ideas, and that CANNOT be refuted.

Evolution happens. Live with it. Hitler is history. Move on. And THINK!

25 posted on 08/19/2006 7:03:43 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Popman

Our Johnny Quest cartoon character appears to be gone from the thread. Oh, well.


26 posted on 08/19/2006 7:04:14 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: RaceBannon

Those who dont beleive in evelution support Stalin.

I think the logic is the same as the "if you beleive in evolution you support Hitler"

Just as stupid.

This post was a waste of my time. Who do I see to get it back?


27 posted on 08/19/2006 7:09:29 AM PDT by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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To: truemiester
Those who don't believe in evolution support Stalin. I think the logic is the same as the "if you believe in evolution you support Hitler"

Hmm, it is a neat division of people, into Stalin and Hitler supporters. Either you are with us, or against us :)

28 posted on 08/19/2006 7:13:45 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: RaceBannon

In my six years on this forum, yours may well be the most stupid post I've ever seen.


29 posted on 08/19/2006 7:15:01 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: A. Pole

" No, it does not. The evolutionary survival is based on the number of the offspring.
...(snip)...
It is fertility, stupid. Read my tagline."

Himmler apparently tried to run his own experiment along that line.
He had his SS trooper kill as many competing animals aspossible and
encouraged his troops to make as many babies as possible. Even with mistresses.

Nicely documented along with lots of wild-and-crazy Nazi ideology in this book:

"The Master Plan: Himmler's Scholars and the Holocaust"
by Heather Pringle
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786868864/sr=1-1/qid=1155996581/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5496716-0372965?ie=UTF8&s=books


30 posted on 08/19/2006 7:17:15 AM PDT by VOA
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To: RaceBannon

Hitler was responsible for his own actions.

C.W.


31 posted on 08/19/2006 7:24:31 AM PDT by colderwater
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To: VOA

"Himmler apparently tried to run his own experiment along that line.
He had his SS trooper kill as many competing animals aspossible and
encouraged his troops to make as many babies as possible. Even with mistresses.
"




Didn't work, did it? That's the sort of thing that happens when you misapply a scientific theory. The entire premise of this nonsensical article and film is ridiculous.

The Theory of Evolution has to do only with the evolution of new species from other species. To apply it to social structures is patently incorrect.

Yet, this author and filmmaker doesn't even understand that Hitler had nothing whatever to do with the Theory of Evolution. He was simply another megalomaniacal racist creep...one of many who have existed on this planet through history.

He's dead, Jim. He didn't survive. He had nothing to do with the Theory of Evolution. Case closed.


32 posted on 08/19/2006 7:25:19 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: VOA
Himmler apparently tried to run his own experiment along that line. He had his SS trooper kill as many competing animals aspossible and encouraged his troops to make as many babies as possible. Even with mistresses.

Yes, but it was an artificial and desperate attempt. People with average IQ and of "impure race" breed easily. They do not need any ideology either.

33 posted on 08/19/2006 7:25:58 AM PDT by A. Pole (Evolution has demonstrated that the optimal IQ is the average IQ !)
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To: RaceBannon
"-- before the advent of Darwinian beliefs, the basic concept was that man was made in the image of God, and was therefore valuable.
But Darwin changed all that. --"




Before the advent of Darwin, our basic concept was:

"-- We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --"

Darwin has not changed all that. - Nor did his theory challenge that.

In fact -- survival of the fit is in a way proved by the death of Hitlers nazi's, by Stalins communists, even by the the deaths of 'Columbine' type whackjobs.
-- The fit survive, the crazies die.
34 posted on 08/19/2006 7:27:09 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: truemiester

Stalin's Communism is based on evolution.

You misspeak quite so.


35 posted on 08/19/2006 7:28:04 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: NonZeroSum
If you truly believe in evolution, it would be logical that some races or ethnic groups would be superior to others in certain ways, especially in intelligence. This is particularly so after a million years or so have passed by since man allegedly evolved.

However, a mere belief in superiority of certain groups or races is far different than what Hitler did in advocating murder of allegedly "inferior" types.
36 posted on 08/19/2006 7:29:09 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: RaceBannon

Modern chemistry is also to blame, because it would have been impossible to develop Zyklon-B without it.

The invention of the train can also be directly linked to the Holocaust.

So beware those who are trying to push chemistry sets and model trains on your kids. They are pure evil.


37 posted on 08/19/2006 7:29:29 AM PDT by Phocion ("Protection" really means exploiting the consumer. - Milton Friedman)
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To: NittanyLion

Well, Nit, I suggest you humble yourself and read a little

There are two other links that have the entire article, it is only excerted here for space reasons

Also, click on the original link.

You might make yourself smarter to actually know what I'm talking baout instead of supporting the false religion of evolution.


38 posted on 08/19/2006 7:29:52 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: Phocion
So beware those who are trying to push chemistry sets and model trains on your kids. They are pure evil.

Teach the controversy!

39 posted on 08/19/2006 7:30:13 AM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: RaceBannon

I read it - all of it - before posting. My opinion remains unchanged.


40 posted on 08/19/2006 7:31:06 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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