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Posted on 08/19/2006 10:51:37 PM PDT by MrClose

This is different.

This post isn't about what I have gleemed from some 'news-source' today. This post is about HOW do you convince your friends, your family .. your loved ones that "There Is A Crisis" in America and that this crisis continues to grow, each and every day..regardless of whether they believe it or not!

The only thing that any of them believe in is: Our Government.

I would like to give you the whole story, how I have tried and finally given up, given up in trying to convince my family, my loved ones that we are at war. Not at war from Just Muslims that want us And the world to convert or die but also from a Government who is no longer "Of the people and for the people" but are only for Their next time at the election polls.

We are Not Only being over-run by a third world country, We have a two party system, (read: Monopoly) that not only knows it but .. is allowing it!

Treason and Political Cowardness meets us .. All of us who care 'and understand' that our future .. Americas future, is at stake.

So How do I, Just a regular guy, make these points clear .. to those who's only concern is .. Tomorrows Box Scores?

MC


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1 posted on 08/19/2006 10:51:38 PM PDT by MrClose
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To: MrClose

This post should probably be in Vanity. Activism/Chapters is for Freeper get togethers (like against the Code Pink commies).


2 posted on 08/19/2006 10:55:28 PM PDT by burzum (Despair not! I shall inspire you by charging blindly on!--Minsc, BG2)
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To: MrClose

My advice: Turn your back on them, stock up on survival supplies, get a gun (or several), stock up on LOTS of ammoa and practice, practice, practice.

Just because they want to be sheep doesn't mean YOU have to.


3 posted on 08/19/2006 10:55:59 PM PDT by hoagy62 (America: SUPREME!)
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To: MrClose

I find that persons argue over symptoms instead of foundations. I ask them for their foundations; first, what do they believe government should do. Then I compare that to our constitution.

Many times I end up asking, "so, you know virtually nothing about our constitution?"


4 posted on 08/19/2006 11:07:11 PM PDT by Loud Mime (An undefeated enemy is still an enemy.......war has a purpose.)
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To: MrClose
Prepare yourself and your family and ignore the MSM.

The MSM wants you to believe that the Government is the answer for all your needs and fears...... 100% Horse-Hockey. When the crap hits the fan we will rise up and destroy our enemies.

These dead enders believe their deaths will advance their cause, while we believe killing them will advance ours..... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the odds are not in favor of a 9th Century false religion

5 posted on 08/19/2006 11:08:22 PM PDT by MJY1288 (THE DEMOCRATS OFFER NOTHING FOR THE FUTURE AND THEY LIE ABOUT THE PAST)
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To: MrClose

The AA prayer is applicable here. Sometimes, you can't help them.


6 posted on 08/19/2006 11:11:11 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: MrClose

Or it could be that you suffer from delusions of grandeur.


7 posted on 08/19/2006 11:21:57 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Loud Mime

I've done that with some lefty friends, who then proceed to make up their own version of the Constitution to fit their personal prejudices. Whether something is in the Constitution or not, according to them, depends on whether it supports their agenda or not.


8 posted on 08/19/2006 11:29:55 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: MrClose
HOW do you convince your friends, your family .. your loved ones that "There Is A Crisis" in America

First of all quit using the word crisis. This word is so overused today that it does not carry the meaning that it once did. Today it simply means the big news story of the moment with a connotation of possible danger.

9 posted on 08/19/2006 11:32:20 PM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: MrClose

Here's your answer: don't give yourself the headache. Accept them for the flawed and deluded people they are. You have to let them continue in their ways until they can't reconcile the cognitive dissonance anymore. At that point they will change with no effort on your part. By trying to convince them, you will only retard the process by making them dig in to their delusions and hold onto them all the more tightly.


10 posted on 08/19/2006 11:33:04 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: MrClose
You might be able to change the mind of the committed but you can never change the mind of the should be committed.

It is up to you to decide if you want them in your life. As for me I don't want to closely know anyone that does not get it. This is a different world we live in now and I have no time nor a heart for anyone that does not put America and our freedom and liberty ahead of touchie feelie leftest thinking.

There IS a crisis and it did not just begin on 9-11. It began long before that, if they did not care about our Marines when they were killed in Beirut, Pan Am flight in 1988, the first World Trade Center bombing, the USS Cole attack etc. then 9-11 is just another day for them to blame the USA for not being nice to Muslims. I want nothing to do with human beings that don't get it. I just don't let them into my personal life, even if they are family. Nope, not any more. Our troops don't deserve people like that and neither does America.

11 posted on 08/19/2006 11:46:16 PM PDT by Brandie (Support American troops and the IDF or bug off and stay out of my life.)
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To: Brandie

It looks to me like I have made a mistake.

Even though I have been a member of Free Republic for some time now, I didn't realize that posting about my concern for family and friends and the ignorance that They and Society in general has adopted would brand me as .. chicken little, delusions of grandeur and, of course, my favorite .. "an anal probe". (didn't it use to be anal retentive?)

Allow me to give you some more descriptors for this posting: cry-baby, wuss, candyass, jerk, momma's boy, girley man, butt spike .. I can think of more but .. To hell with it .. Take your best shot.

Maybe you will wake up someday and realize, None of this is funny.

MC

P.S. I don't know where the forum Vanity/Activism is. Enlighten me?


12 posted on 08/20/2006 12:29:41 AM PDT by MrClose
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To: Brandie

I'm sorry Brandie.

My last post wasn't directed to you.

MC


13 posted on 08/20/2006 12:32:57 AM PDT by MrClose
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To: MrClose
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14 posted on 08/20/2006 12:41:29 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: MrClose

You've permitted the keywords to annoy and upset you. Ignore them.


15 posted on 08/20/2006 12:42:36 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: MrClose

Few of the replies were what I'd consider put-downs, most had a useful thought while not being lengthy.

Addressing your original, valid concern, most of us want to find better ways to communicate truth and a sense of urgency to the naive, apathetic and ignorant--in competition with those powers-that-be that have vested interests in keeping people naive, apathetic and ignorant.

Best approach I've found is identifying what is important to people--by observing and listening--then showing them with examples how they gain or lose according to principles of conservatism. Small doses, over time rather than big doses--except when they clearly want more information. Read The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin and How to Win Friends and Influence People.

"Seek first to understand, then to be understood" -- from Seven Habits of Highly Successful People.

Cheers.


16 posted on 08/20/2006 12:48:18 AM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: MrClose

Yeah unfortunately I think most of these posters on this thread are correct; there is nothing you can do about your friends and family. If they want to stick to their childish and hypocritical notions, there's nothing you can do about it. I point out the obvious contradictions in everyday conversations with them and laugh about it a little, but I don't push it like I used to. When my sister tries to needle me about "those poor Palestinians" and "free health care" I just ignore her and treat her comments as sophomoric.

I've just decided to take all that energy and instead learn Arabic, read up on military history, prepare my family, etc. (Haven't gotten so far as to buy and learn how to take care of a gun, I'm a little too klutzy for that and would probably shoot myself in the foot! :) )

Actions speak louder than words. Perhaps when they find out I am doing all this stuff they will take this more seriously and realize that this is for real. But then I wouldn't hold my breath either...


17 posted on 08/20/2006 1:25:20 AM PDT by BamaGirl (The Framers Rule!)
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To: MrClose
The last time you posted one of these ridiculous vanities, you put it in CHAT, where it belongs; so don't play the innocent.

You hardly ever post anything and since you haven't been here for even two years, yet, post almost nothing at all, with many months between postings, I suggest that you forget posting completely and read FR.

Psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst...you are as much of a chicken little as your family is. Please remove the tinfoil.

If you REALLY want to "help" them, print out the factual threads and have them read them, Of course, that means that YOU have to read and understand them as well and forget that garbage you wrote slamming our two party system and the other junk too.

18 posted on 08/20/2006 1:35:35 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

So, IOW, it appears that my initial diagnosis of delusions of grandeur was spot on. :)


19 posted on 08/20/2006 1:41:45 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Go look at his posting history. :-)


20 posted on 08/20/2006 1:42:58 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Not much there. Except for the Feeling-Sorry-For-Myself-Gothic-Poerm-Generator...which is a hoot.


21 posted on 08/20/2006 1:48:38 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

I see that you saw what I did...the same pattern. LOL


22 posted on 08/20/2006 1:50:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Looking at the keywords, it would appear we were not the only ones.


23 posted on 08/20/2006 1:58:39 AM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Obviously not. LOL


24 posted on 08/20/2006 2:00:47 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: MrClose

Take whatever good you can find and trash the rest. You asked a good question. Maybe a book like "How to Speak to a Liberal" by Ann Coulter would show some ways to go about it. I think there are other books on the subject also but I don't know what they are.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400054184/sr=1-1/qid=1156090289/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-0923190-4635236?ie=UTF8&s=books


25 posted on 08/20/2006 9:21:28 AM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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