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Does enough evidence remain to ID Karr?
seatllepi.com ^ | 8.20.06 | DEBORAH HASTINGS

Posted on 08/20/2006 4:36:19 PM PDT by apackof2

BOULDER, Colo. -- The most important evidence amounts to this: DNA taken from two blood stains, hair and fibers taken from the body, half a footprint and two partial palm prints.

What it boils down to is this: It is infinitely easier to prove itinerant teacher John Mark Karr did not kill JonBenet Ramsey 10 years ago than it is to show beyond a shadow of a doubt that he garroted and beat the 6-year-old child he claims to have loved.

Because of the nature of DNA testing, it is simpler to prove a negative.

"DNA is the sure way to eliminate him," said Scott Robinson, a Denver defense attorney who has closely followed the case. "If it's negative, you ride that horse all the way to the stable."

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: childmurder; crime; dna; evidence; jonbenet; jonbent; karr; pervert; ramsey
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Its the DNA that counts or does it?

First move will be for Karr's ACLU lawyers, if there is any DNA match is to discredit any match as the samples being degraded

1 posted on 08/20/2006 4:36:20 PM PDT by apackof2
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To: apackof2

Is this melodrama still in the MSM news rotation?


2 posted on 08/20/2006 4:39:37 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: RightWhale
I wouldn't call the brutal murder of a child in her own home a "melodrama"
3 posted on 08/20/2006 4:41:27 PM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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Way to miss the Karr melodrama.


4 posted on 08/20/2006 4:43:00 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: apackof2

The DNA samples from the original crime scene have been digitized. Whether they will be acceptable to a defense attorney is something else. I am not familiar with the process.


5 posted on 08/20/2006 4:43:21 PM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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It's a melodrama insomuch that most people believe Karr is engaging in a publicity stunt.


6 posted on 08/20/2006 4:44:00 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: apackof2

This guy didn't do it. He's an attention whore.


7 posted on 08/20/2006 4:44:49 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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The major evidence of guilt is his confession. He has volunteered to take the rap. Who says his "ACLU lawyers" will argue anything? The DNA evidence could only mean that someone else was there. It will not necessarily exclude him. We already hear there was no "sex", no semen, etc. The big reason the cops thought it was an inside (family) job was no footprints in the snow. Very weird case. I kinda think he did it, after vascillating due to inaccurate media accounts (which will plague this and any case to no end).


8 posted on 08/20/2006 4:46:18 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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This clown's a silly little pervert who has always dreamed of being a celebrated pervert.He's no more guilty of this girl's murder than he is of murdering the Lindburgh baby.
9 posted on 08/20/2006 4:49:47 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid."- Dwight Eisenhower)
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The big reason the cops thought it was an inside (family) job was no footprints in the snow

There wasn't any snow around the house to leave a footprint

10 posted on 08/20/2006 4:49:58 PM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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I am not so sure

I guess we'll have to wait and see what the evidence shows

11 posted on 08/20/2006 4:51:16 PM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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That's just it: conflicting media reports. We sit many miles away picking up bits and pieces. There was a time when you could separate the wheat feom the chaff, but media now days is make up your own story before deadline. If you Google footprints in snow and JBR you'll find numerous references to snow and no snow.


12 posted on 08/20/2006 5:04:40 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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the samples being degraded

the samples were collected 10 years ago and a DNA fingerprint obtained. It is this fingerprint that will be compared to a fingerprint from Karr's DNA.

OTOH, DNA keeps quite well at -72 degrees, and they probably have some of it, but it is the fingerprint that will be compared.

13 posted on 08/20/2006 5:07:09 PM PDT by Former Fetus (fetuses are 100% pro-life, they just don't vote yet!)
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To: shalom aleichem
The big reason the cops thought it was an inside (family) job was no footprints in the snow. Very weird case. I kinda think he did it, after vascillating due to inaccurate media accounts (which will plague this and any case to no end).Another apparent "fact" in dispute. Photographs taken the morning of the crime show NO SNOW at all. Lots of bad information circulating.
14 posted on 08/20/2006 5:24:23 PM PDT by Draco
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When I have almost convinced myself that no sane prosecutor would go after someone like this without some pretty strong evidence, I think of Nifong’s Duke rape fiasco where there is apparently little more evidence that a certifiable nut's accusation. Here the certifiable nut is the defendant.
15 posted on 08/20/2006 5:33:40 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "The purpose of diplomacy is to prolong a crisis." Spock)
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Coincidence? I think not.

16 posted on 08/20/2006 5:41:46 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: JimSEA
Yep, I think we've been Nifonged again!
17 posted on 08/20/2006 5:43:02 PM PDT by Guenevere
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Maybe they are interested in some other unsolved cases he may have been involved in.His track record is a story unto itself.


18 posted on 08/20/2006 5:57:04 PM PDT by xarmydog
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To: apackof2

If the DNA matches or is inconclusive, but the palm print also matches it doesn't matter one bit what the defense attorneys argue.

If the DNA is inconclusive and the print doesn't match then they've got lots of wiggle room.


19 posted on 08/20/2006 6:09:57 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: shalom aleichem
the DNA evidence ( or lack of) means shinola to the Duke lacrosse players....I don't see them escaping a trial even with NO evidence whatsoever....

and if that is the standard....then, by all means, try Karr and hang him too.....

OTOH.....I have to say that I am compelled to believe he did it, based solely on the Santa Bear photo if it truely does exist......

20 posted on 08/20/2006 6:13:52 PM PDT by cherry (.)
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