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North American Union Threatens U.S. Sovereignty
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| Aug 21, 2006
| Alan Caruba
Posted on 08/21/2006 5:13:48 AM PDT by NapkinUser
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To: Architect Howard Roark
That's really encouraging the spirit of free exchange of ideas, isn't it? This is not your website.
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:02:01 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
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Comment #43 Removed by Moderator
To: Architect Howard Roark
So I should pay more for an American product instead of saving money for my kids college funds? Is that what you mean?
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:04:40 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: Architect Howard Roark
Well, AMERMO is a stupid name. Ms. Rolleye also has a stupid name. I'm rolling my eyes.
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:06:51 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
Comment #46 Removed by Moderator
To: ConservativeDude
'Sounds just like the European Union.'
Nah, some of the eu countries had referenda on whether to join - bet the US doesn't get one. . .
To: Architect Howard Roark
don't come crying You've cornered the market on that. I wouldn't dream of trying to compete with you.
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:09:03 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: Architect Howard Roark
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:09:08 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: seasoned traditionalist; NapkinUser
Comment #51 Removed by Moderator
To: alloysteel
'Simply annex all of Canada, with the exception of Quebec (which would be allowed to declare sovereignity), then admit each of the provinces individually as states.'
I think you'd have to ask Elizabeth II as she still owns Canada. Anyways, remember what happened last time we tried to 'annex' Canada - we lost! :)
To: abseaman
The last time I commented on the NWO/Illuminati....I got flamed as a tinfoil wearing mad man.
OK....but I honestly think that current politics no longer addresses many issues and that the bad guys have done an end run....
Hey I voted for Bush twice and have voted straight republican since Nixon....but I am convinced that there are dark things going on and that the typical republican just deosn't want to see it...and believes that there is a political solution for everything....I don't buy that anymore.
Look closely at the Patriot Act and at NAFTA and the new Animal ID System that is also via treaty.
Frankly, I trust No one anymore.
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:13:12 AM PDT
by
Halgr
(Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
To: NapkinUser
A brilliant example of someone who can marshal facts, but who can't figure out what they mean, so it must be threatening.
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:16:27 AM PDT
by
arnoldfwilliams
(If it were, it would be: if it could be, it might be; but, as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.)
To: Architect Howard Roark
I don't need to cry. Then why don't you stop?
But you 'free traders' might have cause to when the USA is no more.
What is a 'free trader'?
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:17:52 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: Architect Howard Roark
FYI
The original protectionist;
[Gerorge] Washington was brought up and had lived all his life under a system which came as near as possible to the ideal of the modern free-trader. The people of Virginia were devoted almost entirely to a single interest, tobacco-growing, that being the occupation in which they could most profitably engage. No legislative artifices had been employed to enable them to diversify their industries or to establish manufactures. They bought in the cheapest market every luxury and most of the necessities of life. British merchants supplied all their wants, carried their tobacco, and advanced them money. Cheap labor, a single staple with wide fluctuations of value, a credit system, entire dependence on foreigners, and absolute free trade according to the Manchester theories, should have produced an earthly paradise. As a matter of fact, the Virginia planters had little ready money and were deeply in debt. Bankruptcy, as has been already said, seems to have come to them about once in a generation. The land, rapidly exhausted by tobacco, was prodigally wasted, and the general prosperity declined. Washington, with his strong sense and perfect business methods, personally escaped most of these evils, but he saw the mischief of the system all the more clearly. It was bad enough in his time, but he did not live to see Virginia with her wasted and exhausted lands stand still, while her sister States to the north passed her with giant strides in the race for wealth and population. He did not live to see her become, as a result of her colonial system, a mere breeder of slaves for the plantations of the Gulf States. But he saw enough, and the lesson taught him by the results of industrial dependence was well learned.
When the war came and he was carrying the terrible burden of the Revolution, he learned the same lesson in a new and more bitter way. Nothing went so near to wreck the American cause as lack of all the supplies by which war was carried on, for the United States produced little or nothing of what was then needed. The resources of the northern colonies were soon exhausted, and the South had none. Powder, cannon, muskets, clothing, medical stores, all were lacking, and the fate of the nation hung trembling in the balance on account of the dependence in which the colonies had been kept by the skillful policy of England. These were teachings that a lesser man than Washington would have taken to heart and pondered deeply. In the midst of the struggle he wrote to James Warren (March 31, 1779): "Let vigorous measures be adopted, ... to punish speculators, forestallers, and extortioners, and, above all, to sink the money by heavy taxes, to promote public and private economy, and to encourage manufactures. Measures of this sort, gone heartily into by the several States, would strike at once at the root of all our evils, and give the coup de grâce to the British hope of subjugating this continent either by their arms or their acts."
In the same year he wrote to Governor Randolph, favoring bounties, the strongest form of protection; and this encouragement he wished to have given to that industry which a hundred years later has been held up as one of the least deserving of all that have received the assistance of legislation. He said in this letter: "From the original letter, which I forward herewith, your Excellency will comprehend the nature of a proposal for introducing and establishing the woolen manufacture in the State of Virginia. In the present stage of population and agriculture, I do not pretend to determine how far that plan may be practicable and advisable; or, in case it should be deemed so, whether any or what public encouragement ought to be given to facilitate its execution. I have, however, no doubt as to the good policy of increasing the number of sheep in every state.1 By a little legislative encouragement the farmers of Connecticut have, in two years past, added one hundred thousand to their former stock. If a greater quantity of wool could be produced, and if the hands which are often in a manner idle could be employed in manufacturing it, a spirit of industry might be promoted, a great diminution might be made in the annual expenses of individual families, and the public would eventually be exceedingly benefited." The only hesitation is as to the time of applying the policy. There is no doubt as to the wisdom of the policy itself, of giving protection and encouragement in every proper legislative form to domestic industry.
In his first speech to Congress he recommended measures for the advancement of manufactures, having already affixed his signature to the bill which declared their encouragement to be one of its objects. At the same time he wrote, in reply to an address: "The promotion of domestic manufactures will, in my conception, be among the first consequences which may naturally be expected to flow from an energetic government."
GEORGE WASHINGTON
By
HENRY CABOT LODGE
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To: Architect Howard Roark
So what does that make you? A statist?
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:26:26 AM PDT
by
1rudeboy
To: Architect Howard Roark
So you're not a "free-marketeer"? You prefer the government interfere with markets?
Hedgetrimmer makes it plain that she is a very confused person.
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posted on
08/21/2006 7:27:17 AM PDT
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: abseaman
Yes it has, I noticed when driving by a weigh station, it had a North American transponder sign. Under the surface it has begun.
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