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Boy Charged For Meowing At Neighbor Lady
ClickonDetroit ^ | August 23, 2006 | AP

Posted on 08/23/2006 11:49:41 AM PDT by ShadowDancer

Boy Charged For Meowing At Neighbor Lady

Family Gave Cat Away After Neighbor's Complaints

POSTED: 2:26 pm EDT August 23, 2006

JEANNETTE, Pa. -- Meow. A Pennsylvania judge is being asked to decide whether that word is a harmless taunt or grounds for misdemeanor harassment.

Police have charged a 14-year-old boy with that crime. Michael Loughner is accused of meowing whenever he sees his 78-year-old neighbor, Alexandria Carasia.

The boy's family got rid of their cat after Carasia complained that it was using her flower garden as a litter box. Now, she said, the boy makes meowing sounds every time he sees her.

He said he's only meowed at her twice.

"I've had to put up with this for three years," Carasia said. "As I walk by, I see Michael and his mother. He got on the porch and hid behind the bamboo screen and starts meowing. If I don't make this stop now, they're going to keep doing this to me. I shouldn't have to worry about walking out of the house and being harassed by this young kid."

Loughner said that on July 23 he went out to hold his dog so it wouldn't leave the yard as Carasia walked by.

"She was walking through and she kept looking at us," he testified. "I grabbed the dog so it wouldn't leave the yard. When I put my head down, I meowed."

He said that was one of the two times he's ever meowed at the woman, the Pittsburgh Tribune Review reported.

"As she walked in front of the house, nothing was said," the boy's mother, Sally Loughner, told the court. "He stepped off the porch to make sure the dog didn't get out. As he reached down and got the dog, he said, 'Meow.' ... She said, 'Do you want me to call the cops again?' I said, 'Go ahead, he hasn't done anything wrong.'"

There is a history of disputes between the neighbor, saccording to the paper.

Sally Loughner told the court that she ended up sending her cat to live with family members so that she could "keep peace in the neighborhood."

Defense attorney David Martin Jr. asked that the case be dropped.

"This should never have been filed," Martin said. "This is not something that police should be wasting their time with or wasting the court's time."

The judge heard from both parties Tuesday. He decided to wait 90 days before ruling, saying he'll decide what to do after seeing how the boy and his neighbor get along in the meantime.


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To: Constitution Day

Have you ever told that to a cat?


101 posted on 08/23/2006 12:28:45 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Xenalyte
My favorite one to trot out was "Moooooom! He's not touching me! Make him stop!" when my brother would poke at me and get about half an inch from me.

Rereading that as an adult, I have NO idea what I wanted Mom to do.

"Touch your sister right this instant, young man!"

Ew. I detect some therapy resulting from that one.

102 posted on 08/23/2006 12:31:58 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

BINGO!


103 posted on 08/23/2006 12:32:00 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: ccmay
"22 snake shot is very good for this purpose."

My bb gun is a pump. 2 pumps for cats, 3 for dogs, bump up the pumps for return visitors. Although I do live outside of city limits and do have a 22, I don't want the neighbors knowing what I'm up to or they would all be up in arms about it. I want their pets to know. BB guns are quite and the ammo is very cheap.
104 posted on 08/23/2006 12:32:00 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Aren't you charming?


105 posted on 08/23/2006 12:35:00 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: ShadowDancer
Meowing is too good. I would have hissed at her.
106 posted on 08/23/2006 12:36:51 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: mom4kittys

No, but my Havahart traps have on our farm.


107 posted on 08/23/2006 12:37:06 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Down With Half-Assery!)
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To: ShadowDancer

If this happened in my day (70's) the last thing this woman would have had to worry about was a kid saying "meow." Come on kids, get creative with your revenge.

We had an old lady in our neighborhood who had the deserved moniker of "Granny Grouch". Last thing I recall someone doing to tick her off was when a local hooligan put an apple in the exhaust pipe of the neighbor's car directly across the street from her house. It exploded up against her house and an explosion was heard for miles. What a hoot. Old ladies like this are ENTERTAINMENT for a teenaged boy. Come on!!


108 posted on 08/23/2006 12:37:44 PM PDT by subterfuge (If Liberals hated terrorists like they hate Bush the war would be over by now)
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To: Red Badger

Well, "catty" at least has the requisite "C" and "T..."


109 posted on 08/23/2006 12:38:49 PM PDT by Malacoda (The Posting Police need an enema.)
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To: Blogger

That's just WRONG.


110 posted on 08/23/2006 12:38:53 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: The_Victor

http://www.intriguing.com/mp/: is a "completely unauthorized, completely silly, and completely useless Monty Python web site!" No wonder it led you astray :-)

However, I musy humbly confess - Google searches for "Knights who say ni" and "Knights who say nih" indicate a majority of credible opinions to be on the side of the Knights Who Say Ni!

I am cast down but not broken. I offer you a shrubbery.


111 posted on 08/23/2006 12:39:17 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Malacoda

OOH! That was "U-N" called for..........


112 posted on 08/23/2006 12:40:24 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Xenalyte

Lol. I hadn't heard that one before.


113 posted on 08/23/2006 12:40:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Thinking back, I remember a similar one. "Mommmmmmm, he almost touched me".


114 posted on 08/23/2006 12:43:40 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
I am cast down but not broken. I offer you a shrubbery.

HEAD KNIGHT: Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest... with...
a herring!
[dramatic chord]

115 posted on 08/23/2006 12:44:13 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: ShadowDancer

If you say one word about my pussy - I'll have you arrested!

116 posted on 08/23/2006 12:44:21 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
The meaner they are, the longer they live.

That's so true. I once represented a man in a dispute with his mean old aunt over the family farm. Auntie was about 80 years old and had cancer at the time, but she fought over every little detail, and would even create conflicts (like accusing her nephew of stealing every time she couldn't find something) where none existed. I truly believe that putting the screws to her nephew was what kept her going. We eventually settled the case, and Auntie died a few months after that.

117 posted on 08/23/2006 12:45:04 PM PDT by Huntress (Possession really is nine tenths of the law.)
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To: ShadowDancer

118 posted on 08/23/2006 12:54:19 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Idaho Whacko
Our country is going to hell...

Hey!!!!!!!! Are you criticizing the USA?? Whacko...

119 posted on 08/23/2006 12:54:57 PM PDT by CaptainCanada (Citizenship which costs nothing is worth nothing..........................................)
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To: mom4kittys
"Aren't you charming?"

If you let your pets out the door to free-range around the neighborhood, your not exactly charming yourself.
120 posted on 08/23/2006 12:55:03 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Both of my cats are inside cats and have never been outside.
However, what if you applied the same rules to children? Should we shoot them with bb guns if they wander over the property line? Heaven forbid that they may step on a plant and damage the garden. Oh the horror!


121 posted on 08/23/2006 12:57:49 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: subterfuge

Except she is litigious and you can expect too many people who ought to know better entertaining her ideas...


122 posted on 08/23/2006 1:00:32 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Fester Chugabrew

123 posted on 08/23/2006 1:02:29 PM PDT by maggief
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To: CaptainCanada

Yup.

We have a bunch of whining, liberal crybabies here too.


124 posted on 08/23/2006 1:03:51 PM PDT by Idaho Whacko
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To: ShadowDancer

This is obviously an out of control thug teen-ager, committing a heinous HATE CRIME. LOL

How dare he do the same things I would do if I lived next door to the Wicked Witch of the West.

The Old Biddy ought to be sanctioned by the court for "Frivolous suit" violations.


125 posted on 08/23/2006 1:04:35 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: mom4kittys
Once a child is 4 years old you can really communicate with them and they can really communicate with you, real feedback. If my kids do something wrong, it's my fault and I will take responsibility for it. I have told my neighbors that if they see my kids doing something wrong, to yell at them, and let me know so I can deal with them accordingly. Your pets never get beyond the intelligence of a toddler and can't really communicate with you other than letting you know they are hungry. If you really think you have anything more than a feeder/eater relationship with your pet, your sadly mistaken.
This thread is about an elderly lady who tried to let her neighbors know what was going on. The parents did the right thing in getting rid of the cat. Now they need to deal with bratty 14 year old.
126 posted on 08/23/2006 1:09:50 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: The_Victor

No, But he is one of the Knights who say "Knicht."


127 posted on 08/23/2006 1:10:07 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

"Your pets never get beyond the intelligence of a toddler and can't really communicate with you other than letting you know they are hungry"

That is exactly why they deserve to be shot with bb guns right? Brilliant.


128 posted on 08/23/2006 1:12:55 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: beef
Meowing is too good. I would have hissed at her.

Did you hear about the snake that was so poor, he didn't have a pit to hiss in?

129 posted on 08/23/2006 1:13:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: mom4kittys
rubbing a dogs nose in it's fesses to house break it isn't exactly what the dog deserves either, but it works.
What do you think a cat hiding under my bird feeder has in mind for the birds? The cat is getting off lucky if it only gets stung by a bb.
130 posted on 08/23/2006 1:30:18 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: ccmay

Actually it's the German word for no, Nicht, Pronounced nich, They are doing a number on words that start with the silent K,

Ie: knife, knee, knight, all those KN... words until we get to good old Knut, (canute).


131 posted on 08/23/2006 1:30:27 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: ccmay

Actually it's the German word for no, Nicht, Pronounced nich, They are doing a number on words that start with the silent K,

Ie: knife, knee, knight, all those KN... words until we get to good old Knut, (canute).


132 posted on 08/23/2006 1:31:05 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Maybe we should shoot retarded people as well since they don't know any better.


133 posted on 08/23/2006 1:32:09 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Agree. I have the most inconsiderate neighbors ever. Their cat uses our yard for a latrine. They leave their back lights on all night and are so loud outside that our dog is frightened to go outside. Their attitude is 'tough, it's my yard and house and I'll do what I want'. We don't have a front yard, just a forecourt in front. The rest of my neighbors have taken to returning this neighbor's 3 dog's droppings to their own front porch. This would be a much nicer place if they just left, nobody around is on speaking terms with them anymore. I feel sorry for this lady. She should be able to have piece of mind in her own domicile. And 14-year-old boys can be really bratty.
134 posted on 08/23/2006 1:32:19 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Dixie Yooper

One more thing. When we try to enjoy our back yard their dogs come over to the fence and bark until we are forced to go in. I have taken to shooting them with a hard stream of water from the hose. This usually works.


135 posted on 08/23/2006 1:35:36 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Xenalyte

O.K. I could buy into Nie, the Germanic word for never. Remember Monty Python & co. loved to spoof the Teutonic, especially with English being a Germanic language.


136 posted on 08/23/2006 1:40:28 PM PDT by rock58seg (A minority of Republican RINO's are making a lot of Republicans look like fools.)
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To: Dixie Yooper; mom4kittys

Granted, the cat owner can't have cared that much for their pet if they wouldn't let it live indoors and have a litter box-but the neighbor is obviously trying to perpetrate a frivolous lawsuit. Surely an adult can ignore a kid meowing at them, for heaven's sake.

Any vet will tell you that rubbing a dog's nose in it's feces is NOT the proper way to housebreak them-it is cruel and will not encourage your pet to love you, but only fear you. I never did such a thing to my dog, and she is housebroken perfectly.


137 posted on 08/23/2006 1:58:43 PM PDT by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: Xenalyte

Meow I just have to say thanx for that. I really needed a good hearty laugh today. :)


138 posted on 08/23/2006 2:21:34 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Ask not what the government can do for you. Ask why it doesn't.)
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To: Texan5

I never did that to either of my dogs, either, and my last one I got at seven weeks and by eight and a half weeks he was completely house broken.


139 posted on 08/23/2006 2:24:02 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: Graybeard58
My older brother used to "meow" at his beautiful young highschool chemistry teacher back in the late 50's.

;-)

140 posted on 08/23/2006 2:29:15 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Oh good .............. it's August 23rd.)
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To: ShadowDancer

I know that putting them in a kennel while you are gone works, but that has always seemed a bit too confining for an active puppy to me-I put up that toddler-proof fencing in an area of the utility room and put my puppy, her food, water, bed and toys in there when I was gone, and that worked just fine.


141 posted on 08/23/2006 2:35:13 PM PDT by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line...)
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To: pissant

I'm sure he will after this!


142 posted on 08/23/2006 2:46:16 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

When I moved into this area I found the old man across the street to be a complete cranky SOB who liked nothing anyone else did and complained constantly. Now he is a friendly old coot, smiling, passing the time day, etc. What, you might ask, brought about this big change? His wife died. True story....I kid you not


143 posted on 08/23/2006 3:03:16 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: ShadowDancer

In a society like ours has become, where an ordinary citizen can be criminalized at the drop of a hat, this kind of thing is the tip of the iceberg to come.


144 posted on 08/23/2006 3:16:05 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: ShadowDancer

She should have just thrown him some catnip and be done with him.


145 posted on 08/23/2006 3:19:11 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Texan5

That's pretty much what I did with my first dog when I worked. With this one I'm at home so I was able to let him outside constantly. I never could bring myself to do the cage thing.


146 posted on 08/23/2006 3:23:04 PM PDT by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

***I don't suppose buying a real litter box and keeping their cat inside was an option? Or would that have been too much work?***

All they had to do was dig a space in their yard, fill it with sand, and the cat would have been happy to stay home. Cats have to dig after defecating to hide it from their enemies. A little shovel work now and then, and some new sand and the problem is solved.


147 posted on 08/23/2006 4:17:43 PM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: mom4kittys
"Maybe we should shoot retarded people as well since they don't know any better"

Getting a little off-topic aren't you? Not to mention a little off color.
148 posted on 08/23/2006 5:11:32 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Texan5

Back when I had a dog,1968, that was the method for house breaking a dog, and the only vets around were for livestock.
Now a days, I trying to train my neighbors dogs that roam not to crap in my yard, and my neighbors cats that roam not to hunt for birds at my bird feeders. My neighbors think their pets are wonderful people that wouldn't do such a thing.


149 posted on 08/23/2006 5:19:05 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: originalbuckeye

Your neighbor sounds like a real winner


150 posted on 08/23/2006 5:22:25 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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