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Microsoft Canada leaks Vista pricing
Cnet ^ | 08/28/2006 | Ina Fried

Posted on 08/28/2006 3:01:32 PM PDT by Panerai

Microsoft on Monday briefly posted pricing for Windows Vista on its Canadian Web site, giving an eye into what the company will charge for the new operating system.

The posting indicates that the Home Basic edition of Windows Vista will be priced the same as Windows XP Home, at $233 ($259 Canadian). The Home Premium version, which includes support for Media Center and tablet PC abilities will sell for 13 percent higher rate, a price that translates to about $269 in American dollars.

Microsoft quickly removed the price information, but blogger Ed Bott, who spotted the price list earlier Monday, included the price list in a ZDNet posting. Bott cautioned that those trying to figure out U.S. pricing would be better off comparing the Canadian Vista prices to their XP counterparts than to try and just convert to U.S. dollars.

A Microsoft representative said the company "inadvertently posted Windows Vista Canadian retail prices" on its Web site but said it has removed the posting and is not ready to share U.S. pricing information. The company said it would announce those prices when it ships the "Release Candidate 1" test version, due out by September.

On the business side, Microsoft listed Windows Vista Business at a price that equates to $341 in U.S. currency, 7 percent less than what Microsoft charges in Canada for Windows XP Professional.

The company is still wrapping up development work on the oft-delayed Windows update, which will come more than five years after its predecessor, Windows XP. After issuing the near-final release candidate next month, the company hopes to finalize the code in November in time for a mainstream launch in January.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: canada; embracethepenguin; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; os; vista; windows; windowsxp

1 posted on 08/28/2006 3:01:33 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai
"$341 in U.S"

Wow!

2 posted on 08/28/2006 3:10:01 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: ShadowAce

ping


3 posted on 08/28/2006 3:10:23 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Panerai
Linux looks better every day.


4 posted on 08/28/2006 3:25:39 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

5 posted on 08/28/2006 4:13:20 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

There goes the $100 laptop idea.


6 posted on 08/28/2006 4:16:45 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Panerai
WHO CARES about Vista. It is clear that MS has lost touch with its users, and now sees them as sheap to be sheared; the installed base, as a cash cow to be milked while they try to become a "media company" or whatnot.

That is why they are doing a test run of DRM with Windows Genuine Advantage, so that they can sell the same video to a million people and not let you share it.

Today I started setting up a MacBook for a client. It is a dream of a system.

7 posted on 08/28/2006 4:45:49 PM PDT by ikka
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To: ikka; rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; ...
That is why they are doing a test run of DRM with Windows Genuine Advantage, so that they can sell the same video to a million people and not let you share it.

But there are some tools around that. I thought this article was too short for its own thread, but ikka's comment was a great segui....

8 posted on 08/28/2006 4:53:30 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Panerai

LOL

They are pricing themselves out of the market.


9 posted on 08/28/2006 5:02:45 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: Panerai

$129 upgrade, $199 to upgrade up to five of your computers, and it's the complete version, all features included.

10 posted on 08/28/2006 5:27:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: darkwing104; Panerai

And what they didn't say is that you will have to buy a new computer to handle the bloatware that's required just to boot up the machine. (And that's just for the stripped down version of Vista -- I understand they had to drop features originally planned to be included.)


11 posted on 08/28/2006 5:36:14 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Panerai
XP works perfectly well on all of my (4) computers. I have no problems, nor any foreseeable difficulties with hardware or software applications I am likely to use. Why would I spend several hundred dollars on an OS that requires huge amounts of memory and hard drive space - requiring additional expensive upgrades - and that does not appear likely to improve my enjoyment or productivity?
12 posted on 08/28/2006 5:37:31 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: andy58-in-nh

Amen. I have customers who still spec, for various reasons, that any PC we supply for their operation has to be on Windows 2000, and it has me wondering how long I could stay on XP for my home and office PCs, and still be able to obtain new licenses for any new machines.


13 posted on 08/28/2006 5:44:32 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Wait a sec--OS X runs on a standard PC?

I thought it did only with some serious hacking...


14 posted on 08/28/2006 5:48:28 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (II Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout

yeah they have an x86 version now....


15 posted on 08/28/2006 5:48:58 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

I know that--it only runs on Apple Intel hardware.

There is stuff built into the operating system that refuses to install if the system detects

Not to mention it uses EFI by default; it has to be hacked to use BIOS.

To get it legally, you need to buy a Macintosh or have a computer built with the right hardware or pay $500 or more via becoming an official Apple developer.

Other than that, it's illegal to install OS X on a standard x86 PC.

IOW, I cannot go out to the computer store, buy a copy of Mac OS X and install it on my crappy eMachines (though it'd be nice...)--I'd have to literally buy a Mac or pay heaps of money for a developer license.


16 posted on 08/28/2006 6:37:54 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (II Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Other than that, it's illegal to install OS X on a standard x86 PC.

Greets Rzenznikj,

Do you have any information as to where it states that it's illegal to install it on a generic X86 pc? Is that because they only sell an "upgrade" version?

I'd like to see them try to enforce that in court in any case. 

17 posted on 08/28/2006 8:41:12 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: zeugma

Apple is afraid of competition and makes it illegal to install on a standard PC, do a search for OSX86 on google or yahoo


18 posted on 08/28/2006 8:49:09 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: darkwing104; ShadowAce
here i made 10 KDE wallpapers thought you might like them... :) www.linuxpapers.blogspot.com
19 posted on 08/28/2006 8:53:03 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: zeugma

It's against the EULA for OS X, and IIRC, Apple served OSX86 with a DMCA infringement notice.

Though if they did offer a copy for standard PC's, I'd snap it up in a heartbeat and just run that. Heck, I'd even pay $150 for a copy...8^)


20 posted on 08/28/2006 9:36:43 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (II Computers 3:14))
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To: Echo Talon

It's probably more that they don't want to get into legal issues with MS over infringement. You can already run Windows on the new Macs, so why would Apple be afraid of competition from a PC?


21 posted on 08/28/2006 9:46:58 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (I've had it with these &%#@* jihadis on these &%#@* planes!)
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To: Echo Talon
Apple is afraid of competition and makes it illegal to install on a standard PC, do a search for OSX86 on google or yahoo

Apple is not afraid of competition, but they don't condone piracy of their intellectual property.

It's the other guys who are afraid. Dell is afraid to design a DellOS operating system. Microsoft is afraid to manufacture computer systems, although they've been selling game systems for a while and will attempt to sell music players soon. Apple is the only company with enough courage to make "the whole widget".

22 posted on 08/28/2006 10:17:06 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: HAL9000

Very true...

It'd be nice though if I could run Mac OS X on my cruddy pee-cee...8^)


23 posted on 08/28/2006 11:13:19 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (II Computers 3:14))
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To: HAL9000
Apple is not afraid of competition, but they don't condone piracy of their intellectual property.
It's the other guys who are afraid. Dell is afraid to design a DellOS operating system. Microsoft is afraid to manufacture computer systems, although they've been selling game systems for a while and will attempt to sell music players soon. Apple is the only company with enough courage to make "the whole widget".

how is it piracy if i buy the OS X software and put it on my PC? hmmm

yea and if you want one part you gotta go "all in"

24 posted on 08/30/2006 10:43:14 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: SlowBoat407
It's probably more that they don't want to get into legal issues with MS over infringement. You can already run Windows on the new Macs, so why would Apple be afraid of competition from a PC?

uhhh, do you really want me to answer this?
Apple is afraid that their hardware business would colapse if the opened OS X up to PC's...

25 posted on 08/30/2006 10:45:38 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
how is it piracy if i buy the OS X software and put it on my PC? hmmm

That would be a violation of the License Agreement. The outside of the Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger box says "IMPORTANT: Use of this product is subject to acceptance of the software license agreements included in this package"

The License Agreement says "IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE, DO NOT USE THE SOFTWARE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE, YOU MAY RETURN THE APPLE SOFTWARE TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU OBTAINED IT FOR A REFUND."

The Permitted License Uses and Restrictions say "This License allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at at time."

Apple has the right to set the terms and conditions of usage for their intellectual property. They have the right to restrict the installation of the operating system to their hardware only. They do allow other operating systems to be installed on Apple hardware, like Windows XP, Windows Vista, Linux, etc. It's a reasonable deal for everyone.

Apple has good reasons to restrict Mac OS X to Apple hardware. It allows Apple to provide the best quality systems on the market, it keeps support costs down, and it keeps the price of the products affordable.

I don't want Apple to waste everyone's time and money by trying to support their OS on junk from Dell, HP and everyone else. Maybe someday Apple will allow third-party manufacturers to certify their hardware for Mac OS X, but until then, Apple should not allow it on PC clones.

26 posted on 08/30/2006 11:10:53 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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To: HAL9000
That would be a violation of the License Agreement. The outside of the Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger box says "IMPORTANT: Use of this product is subject to acceptance of the software license agreements included in this package"

The License Agreement says "IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE, DO NOT USE THE SOFTWARE. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS LICENSE, YOU MAY RETURN THE APPLE SOFTWARE TO THE PLACE WHERE YOU OBTAINED IT FOR A REFUND."

Like i said, call the Wammmmbulance...

27 posted on 08/31/2006 2:03:35 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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