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Anyone having problems with McAafee Security Suite? (yet another vanity from Hack)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 9-3-06 | Hacksaw

Posted on 09/03/2006 1:22:08 PM PDT by Hacksaw

I have McAfee security suite. It ran somewhat fine until the latest "upgrade". Now new windows take way to long to to open, and even the boot up process to where I can actually use the computer takes a lot longer. I tried uninstalling everything except the virus scan, and it still runs like a turtle.

From what I read, Mcafee is RAM resident and the newest release must be a huge RAM hog. It gave me the excuse to order the extra 512M of memory - Rambus RDRAM 800 MHz BTW - very expensive but I don't think that should be necessary. Going with cheaper memory would require a different chipset and I don't even want to f**k with that so I bought the Rambus.

I'll console myself with the fact that I won't have to turn everything off to run Doom 3 now.

Anyone else running into this problem with McAfee?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: lowqualitycrap; malware; mcafee; spyware; windows; xp
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1 posted on 09/03/2006 1:22:09 PM PDT by Hacksaw
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To: Hacksaw

I think I have a mis-spelling in the title, but I havn't had my coffee yet.


2 posted on 09/03/2006 1:23:21 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

Sounds to me like:

"I tied the donkey in front of my Pinto, and I put many carrots before it, but the stubborn thing just will not take me to the mall...."

Dude, get a life, quit wnining, get a real computer, get a Mac!


3 posted on 09/03/2006 1:28:18 PM PDT by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: observer5
Dude, get a life, quit wnining, get a real computer, get a Mac!

That's like telling a carpenter to get Bob Villa's new "miracle hammer".

4 posted on 09/03/2006 1:30:53 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

McAfee is a POS. Dump it, and get AVG's security suite. Far less resource intensive.


5 posted on 09/03/2006 1:34:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr
McAfee is a POS. Dump it, and get AVG's security suite. Far less resource intensive.

I've also read that.

6 posted on 09/03/2006 1:35:26 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Spktyr

How do I get rid of it?


7 posted on 09/03/2006 1:38:01 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Hacksaw

The main problem is - you're using McAfee!


8 posted on 09/03/2006 1:38:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Krodg

To get rid of McAfee (unlike Norton, which can be all but impossible to remove), merely go to Add/Remove Programs in your Control Panels, and remove everything that says "McAfee".


9 posted on 09/03/2006 1:39:26 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Hacksaw
Far less resource intensive

I had to dump McAfee stuff years ago because of how intrusive, slow, and buggy it was. Some of my older PC's became essentially non-functional with it installed because they didn't have anywehre near the resources and throughput needed to run McAfee AND Windows at the same time. :o)

10 posted on 09/03/2006 1:40:22 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Spktyr
McAfee is a POS. Dump it, and get AVG's security suite. Far less resource intensive.

You got that right. You may have posted info about AVG (someone did) and, on that advice, I removed McAfee and installed AVG a month or two ago and I haven't looked back since.

Can't beat the price either.

McAfee is very well known to the hackers & virus types and they go right past it while you're tearing out your hair trying to get it to let you into a benign web-site.

11 posted on 09/03/2006 1:40:45 PM PDT by capt. norm (Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
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To: capt. norm

And McAfee is so bloody slow to respond to new threats and techniques, it's not even funny.

Norton Antivirus and Norton Internet Security are just as bad if not worse in some ways.


12 posted on 09/03/2006 1:42:34 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Hacksaw
I've tried Norton and McAfee, but the latest Windows LiveOne Care more than does the job. Also, I was able to more effectively protect 3 computers for the price of one.
13 posted on 09/03/2006 1:43:47 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: Dumpster Baby
I had to dump McAfee stuff years ago because of how intrusive, slow, and buggy it was. Some of my older PC's became essentially non-functional with it installed because they didn't have anywehre near the resources and throughput needed to run McAfee AND Windows at the same time. :o)

The thing is that it wasn't that bad until this latest release. I think they are adopting the MS approach and using customers for the beta testers.

14 posted on 09/03/2006 1:44:29 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

Well, you might consider trying these freebies:

Free avast! 4 Home Edition
http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html

Get free anti-virus and anti-spyware
http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php

I've used both at different times on the home machines, and they are darn good.


15 posted on 09/03/2006 1:47:37 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: Hacksaw

Correct. The latest version of McAfree has slowed my PC to a crawl. I'm getting mighty annoyed.


16 posted on 09/03/2006 1:47:47 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Hacksaw
Mine seems OK - there was a new siggy file yesterday. You might pull up Task Manager and hit Show Processes from All Users - if McTskshd.exe or McShield.exe or Mcdetect.exe are hogging the CPU or the memory it'll show up there.

I run both Symantec and AVG on other computers. I've found that if you're running just the realtime scan all of these products function more or less satisfactorily but their add-ons get a little messy. You may want to dump the Suite.

The software may only be a symptom, too - one of the first signs that the hard drive was failing on the laptop I'm typing this on was that scheduled scans started to take a loooong time. Had a failed server RAID controller show the same thing one time.

Ugh. Good luck.

17 posted on 09/03/2006 1:49:26 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Hacksaw

I've had McAfee and dumped it too! I have been running Norton for the past year and a half with no problems. It just stinks that in October I've got to pay them another 40 or so bucks to renew for another 12 months.


18 posted on 09/03/2006 1:50:51 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: Spktyr

I use McAfee and ZoneAlarm (security suite) on different computers. I'm ready to dump McAfee. Anybody had experience with ZoneAlarm? It's on a computer that I don't tie into the internet very much.


19 posted on 09/03/2006 1:51:22 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: Hacksaw; All
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20 posted on 09/03/2006 1:52:37 PM PDT by Fawn (http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/toilet_obsession.html)
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To: Hacksaw

I quit with the most recent version, as it asked me to delete all my adware and spyware removers. I'm sticking with AVG free antivirus and ZoneAlarm free firewall.


21 posted on 09/03/2006 1:53:14 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: Ole Okie

ZoneAlarm is also a POS.


22 posted on 09/03/2006 1:53:33 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Hacksaw
Get rid of it.

I use Grisoft AVG for anti virus, Blue Coat K9 Web Protection for internet filtering, and Microsoft Defender for anti spyware, adware, etc.

Didn't pay dime for any of them and they work great. For firewall protection, I rely on the standard Windows XP firewall along with my broadband router's firewall. I travel a lot and have to get on hotel networks and such, so I'm looking at using either Kerio Firewall or Checkpoint Zone Alarm for better protection when I'm on the road.

I've had to remove a lot of the commercial security suites from my own computers and those of my relatives who rely on me for computer support because they mess of the systems and make them operate very slowly. I just bought two notebook computers and had to remove the default installed commercial apps because they slowed things down too much. Same goes for a notebook my father-in-law purchased. He had one of the security suites and it basically rendered his notebook unusable.

The commercial security apps are expensive, require annual subscriptions but bog down your system while not offering hardly any better protection than the free stuff.

23 posted on 09/03/2006 2:01:56 PM PDT by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: Hacksaw
I turned the "privacy service" off, now it tends to run faster.

The controls associated with its features are crappy. You can turn something off, but it turns itself on.

I intend to dump it in favor of something written by competent people.

24 posted on 09/03/2006 2:04:01 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Spktyr

HEAR HEAR!!!!!!!avg is great....Mcafee let 3,000 viruses on my friends computer and NEVER let her know about it..BOY,WAS SHE PISSED!!!!!!!


25 posted on 09/03/2006 2:05:54 PM PDT by fishbabe
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I had Norton for years. It ran fine. I got tired of paying for it and went to AVG. To get rid of Norton before installing AVG, I did the Control Panel uninstall, and then I Googled instructions [from Norton] to remove the remnants of Norton. Then I installed AVG. It's wonderful and free.


26 posted on 09/03/2006 2:07:08 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: Hacksaw

I dumped McAfee a couple of years ago, because it got to be glutware. Even on a relatively fast Pentium, it caused the system to run sluggish.

I tried Trend Micro on a new system, Pentium IV, 3.06ghz, and it got to be glutware and slowed the system to a crawl.

Now, I just run the free home AVG with the free Zonealarm Firewall, and occasionally run the free Ad-Aware. My system is back at the speed it should have.


27 posted on 09/03/2006 2:08:15 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Spiff

Thanks for this info. I'll keep it until the next time I have computer problems (soon, no doubt)!


28 posted on 09/03/2006 2:09:49 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Spiff

I use Kerio's free firewall. I had Zone Alarm, and it protected well, but there were constant updates, and they seemed to be more bloated each time. I got tired of it.


29 posted on 09/03/2006 2:10:41 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: Spiff
Thank you for the links. Along with my new memory coming in (which I was going to order anyway, McAfee provided me with the excuse) I should have a much faster PC.

As an aside, it's too bad I simply can't add memory to my own brain like a PC.

Also, I think we should get a 3rd set of teeth when we turn 40.

30 posted on 09/03/2006 2:11:42 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Spktyr
The only thing in the Add/Remove Programs is McAffe uninstaller. The problem is, I have searched repeatedly and can't find the uninstaller.
31 posted on 09/03/2006 2:13:26 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: Krodg
How do I get rid of it?

When I used to have McAfee, I decided to try their firewall trial. Big mistake. I didn't like it, so uninstalled. Every few weeks, a McAfee ad would pop up, wanting me to try it again.

I couldn't get rid of it. I did file scans and deleted everything McAfee that I could find. I did registry scan and deleted anything McAfee. To no avail. The pop up presisted.

I finally got rid of it by reformatting -- I needed to anyway, because I began having problems with Real Player locking up and not allowing any video player to run.

I will never install anything McAfee on any system again. My cable co offered a free McAfee for cable Internet users -- I declined their offer.
32 posted on 09/03/2006 2:14:37 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: GarySpFc

Ditto that.


33 posted on 09/03/2006 2:17:59 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29 (Two guys walked into a bar.... you think the first one would have ducked.)
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To: Ole Okie
Anybody had experience with ZoneAlarm?

ZA is good, except that sometimes they put out bad releases. I had to back up from the latest to the previous version, because the latest conflicted with some other programs. ZA has had similar problems of creating conflicts in the past.
34 posted on 09/03/2006 2:18:41 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Hacksaw
I have McAfee, but my system's so damn slow on it's own anyway, that unless it
just stopped altogether, I don't think I'd realize it if something were wrong or not.
35 posted on 09/03/2006 2:21:16 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Hacksaw
I don't have any problem with McAffe....but then again, I don't use it.
36 posted on 09/03/2006 2:21:51 PM PDT by Wheee The People
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To: observer5
Dude, get a life, quit wnining, get a real computer, get a Mac!

Yeah, I know, I should never respond to these cult trolls, but since I have one of my site admins open, and have the facts, why not?

Beg enough people and someday you will be running a system other people use, or have heard of, and your lonliness will be over.

Here are the stats from one site for this month, to Date:

109366 14050 Windows

93110 11718 Windows XP

11373 1731 Windows 2000

1929 244 Windows 98

1953 168 Windows ME

529 110 Windows NT

173 32 Unknown Windows

99 27 Windows 95

182 19 Windows Server 2003

18 1 Windows CE

2 11050 5100 OS unknown

3 1789 189 Macintosh

4 288 174 Unix

273 171 Linux

4 2 BSD

11 1 SunOS

5 20 2 WebTV

So, everyone, PLEASE HELP! PLEASE save obscure OS's, and Help The Lonely!!

Get a Mac!!!

You can bring it home. In your Studebaker.

37 posted on 09/03/2006 2:25:23 PM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: observer5
Dude, get a life, quit wnining, get a real computer, get a Mac!

With fries.

The rest of us like to do real computer work. If you can't handle a real pc, you should stick to the toys.
38 posted on 09/03/2006 2:30:02 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Spiff

Since I don't have anything to do until 8:00 tonight, I uninstalled MCAAfee and put AVG on - night and day difference.


39 posted on 09/03/2006 2:37:48 PM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

Don't call Dell. Aside from wanting to beat your head against the wall after dealing with them, they will just tell you to reformat your hard drive.


40 posted on 09/03/2006 2:40:20 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: backhoe
I love and use Avast. The first time the virus alert went off I just about went into cardiac arrest. LOL

I would also recommend Web root Spy Sweeper.

41 posted on 09/03/2006 2:42:56 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: Spktyr

Or go with CA's Internet Security Suite. Computer Associates makes a decent product.


42 posted on 09/03/2006 2:43:29 PM PDT by thebaron512
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To: TomGuy
McAfee was loaded in the software for my pc and I hate it. I disabled everything possible and things were fine for awhile. Then came the pop-ups for their updates. My trial period is over, yet it keeps running.

McAfee is as bad as a virus.

43 posted on 09/03/2006 2:44:59 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: proudofthesouth

Dell's Community Forum is very good, much better than their tech support, from India I might add! They can barely speak English and you can hear them leafing through manuals! LOL!


44 posted on 09/03/2006 2:49:59 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: Hacksaw

Had the same thing happen with the latest upgrade. Now it's history. Pain in the butt to remove it though.


45 posted on 09/03/2006 2:51:38 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Hacksaw
Nope but I use Zone Alarm Security Suite so that might be why. :)

It really is quite a good program and I don't have anywhere near the headaches that I got from McAfee.

46 posted on 09/03/2006 2:56:21 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Gorzaloon

What do the numbers columns mean? (Sorry for being so dense!)


47 posted on 09/03/2006 3:00:09 PM PDT by maryz
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To: Ole Okie
I have the Security Suite and I like it quite a lot.

I have had this computer on line almost contently for a year and have only had maybe six spy-ware make it through and two viruses that did no harm and were promptly eliminated.

48 posted on 09/03/2006 3:01:57 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: Dr. Ed Bravo

Ping for link.


49 posted on 09/03/2006 3:06:36 PM PDT by Dr. Ed Bravo (Contact "StarCMC" to join the Patriot Guard Riders ping list.)
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To: Hacksaw

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50 posted on 09/03/2006 3:08:26 PM PDT by brooklin
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