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Scientists scuttle new evolution claims of 'Hobbit' Fossil (Or, "Why never to jump to conclusions")
African News Dimension ^ | October 18, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 10/18/2006 2:58:43 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

When scientists found 18,000-year-old bones of a small, humanlike creature on the Indonesian island of Flores in 2003, they concluded that the bones represented a new species in the human family tree that they named Homo floresiensis.

Their interpretation was widely accepted by the scientific community and heralded by the popular press around the world. Because of its very short stature, H. floresiensis was soon dubbed the "Hobbit."

But now, a new research has comprehensively and convincingly rubbished the case that the small skull represent a new species of hominid, as was claimed in a study published which was published two years ago in the journal Nature.

Instead, the new finding is claiming that the skull is most likely that of a small-bodied modern human who suffered from a genetic condition known as microcephaly, which is characterized by a small head.

"It's no accident that this supposedly new species of hominid was dubbed the 'Hobbit;'" said Dr Robert R. Martin, Curator of Biological Anthropology at the Field Museum and lead author of the paper. "It is simply fanciful to imagine that this fossil represents anything other than a modern human."

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TOPICS: Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: crevo; crevolist; flores; fossils; godsgravesglyphs; hihohihoitsofftowork; hobbit; hobbits; homofloresiensis; mikemorwood
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We've already heard a lot about the hobbit find a lot the past few months. I think this article sums it up nicely, and underscores why we should never jump to conclusions, whether it's a "hobbit species," a fish with legs, or "Lucy's Baby."
1 posted on 10/18/2006 2:58:45 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; Elsie; LiteKeeper; ...

Everyone be nice, or I'll smear engine grease on all your waffles.


2 posted on 10/18/2006 2:59:39 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Don't jump to conclusions. Okay, don't jump to the other conclusion, jump to this one.


3 posted on 10/18/2006 3:05:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Everyone be nice

**************

Dreamer. :)

4 posted on 10/18/2006 3:06:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Everyone be nice, or I'll smear engine grease on all your waffles.

It's not really hard to do this -- just stick to the topic at hand, comment on it and avoid attacking the poster(s) personally/IQ/honesty, and you'll be fine.
5 posted on 10/18/2006 3:10:24 PM PDT by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot
Actually, it's NOT hard, but you've got it ALL wrong. First you find some engine grease. Then you smear it on the waffles.
6 posted on 10/18/2006 3:13:23 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
"But now, a new research has comprehensively and convincingly rubbished the case that the small skull represent a new species of hominid."

"comprehensively and convincingly rubbished the case"

outstanding vernacular phrase of the English language worth repeating anytime a futile argument that skulls provide evidence for evolution between ape and human is mentioned.


"Microcephaly is a term that covers many conditions. There are more than 400 different human genes for which mutations can result in small brain size. Accordingly, there is a correspondingly wide range of different syndromes that are recognized in clinical practice."

Micocephaly...more evidence of high probability of random beneficial mutations. (if you don't get it, it is probably sarcasm)

Candidate for understatement of the year:

"There has been too much media hype and not enough sound scientific evaluation surrounding this discovery"
7 posted on 10/18/2006 3:29:14 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: DaveLoneRanger; Angelas; presidio9; Idisarthur; Hegemony Cricket; A knight without armor; ...
Okay, everyone let's be nice to our crevo friends.

At the very least, the idea of real-life hobbits is really cool.

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8 posted on 10/18/2006 3:30:10 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Despite sensationalist claims to the contrary, H. floresiensis remains a subject of much debate within the field. It is certainly not true that there exists any sort of broad consensus that LB1 is a microcephalic human. On the contrary, there is some good evidence to argue that it is not.


9 posted on 10/18/2006 3:30:38 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

What the heck is "African News Dimension?" What kind of source is this?


10 posted on 10/18/2006 3:33:50 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
Everyone be nice, or I'll smear engine grease on all your waffles.
"Just bring out the cold chicken and pickles!"
11 posted on 10/18/2006 6:08:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Alter Kaker

The news anchors are Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr.


12 posted on 10/18/2006 6:09:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

"....the skull is most likely that of a small-bodied modern human...."
Make that a LIBERAL human, with such a small brain.


13 posted on 10/18/2006 7:42:55 PM PDT by whipitgood (Public schools have replaced a biblical moral code with pragmatism. Civilization, beware!)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL! From R&B to critiquing anthropology. How times change...


14 posted on 10/18/2006 7:47:15 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: SunkenCiv

You seem to know as much about the inside of my larders as I do!


15 posted on 10/18/2006 8:08:27 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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To: Alter Kaker

It was a news item on Google news. That's where I get most of my stories.


16 posted on 10/18/2006 8:36:24 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (Lord, help me to be the Christian conservative that liberals fear I am.)
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Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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17 posted on 10/18/2006 9:55:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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link from the list of keywords above:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=hobbit


18 posted on 10/18/2006 9:57:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

;')


19 posted on 10/18/2006 10:07:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
But now, a new research has comprehensively and convincingly rubbished the case that the small skull represent a new species of hominid

Which is why they chose to publish it in a journal with an impact factor of 1.4 or so instead of 10.5 (PNAS), 21.9 (Science), or 27.1 (Nature). Color me sceptical. Perhaps you're jumping to a conclusion here?

20 posted on 10/20/2006 6:57:17 AM PDT by ahayes (On the internet no one can hear you scream.)
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