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Happy birthday, Earth - Creation occurred 6,010 years
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | October 24, 2006

Posted on 10/24/2006 1:33:25 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

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To: Alter Kaker
And he's right...

I happen to think he was wrong about many things.

But he was a man of great learning, great accomplishment and also a man of great bravery in the face of Europe's first totalitarian regime.

There's no need to belittle him just because you disagree with his chronology.

41 posted on 10/24/2006 2:00:05 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

4.567 billion years (years based on the current present rotation rate) this of course was far different in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

Based on extensive and detailed scientific evidence, geologists have determined the age of the Earth to be around 4.567 billion years (4.567×109 years). This age represents a compromise between the oldest-known terrestrial minerals – small crystals of zircon from the Jack Hills of Western Australia – and astronomers' and planetologists' determinations of the age of the solar system based in part on radiometric age dating of meteorite material and lunar samples.

The radiometric age dating evidence from the zircons further confirms that the Earth is at least 4.404 billion years old. Comparing the mass and luminosity of the Sun to the multitudes of other stars, it appears that the solar system cannot be much older than those rocks. Ca-Al-rich inclusions (inclusions rich in calcium and aluminium) – the oldest known solid constituents within meteorites which are formed within the solar system – are 4.567 billion years old, giving an age for the solar system and an upper limit for the age of the Earth. It is assumed that the accretion of the Earth began soon after the formation of the Ca-Al-rich inclusions and the meteorites. Since the accretion time of the Earth is not exactly known yet, and the predictions from different accretion models vary between several millions up to about 100 million years, the exact age of the Earth is difficult to define.

In the centuries preceding the scientific revolution, the age of the Earth was determined from the accounts of creation by religious authority. Today some religious groups continue to accept only theological accounts regarding the age of the earth, rejecting scientific evidence which contradicts their beliefs.






However no matter how much evidence or theory is presented, for some, it is "turtles all the way down".
To each his own.



"A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the Earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the centre of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy.
"At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise."
"The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?"
"You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down."





42 posted on 10/24/2006 2:00:34 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Alter Kaker

Yes, and virtually every scientists will tell you that human beings descended, as did all life, from a single-clled organism in a "primodial soup" based supported by the Miller-Urey experiment that managed to produce only two amino acids and tar!


43 posted on 10/24/2006 2:00:38 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: wordsofearnest

Right....and before the Big Foreplay and Big Bang, parents of the elements let them go Carbon Dating.


44 posted on 10/24/2006 2:01:06 PM PDT by edpc (Violence is ALWAYS a solution. Maybe not the right one....but a solution nonetheless)
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To: Brilliant
Of course, it's entirely possible that God made the world yesterday and planted our minds with false memories of what happened before.

It's also possible God created the world yesterday, but His creation extends in both directions along the time axis, so the universe was already 13.4 billion years old when He created it. No need for false memories when you are a transcendent Creator Deity; you can create true memories. Maybe He hasn't created it yet, and what we're experiencing is a sort of pre-echo of the creation. Or maybe He's creating it continuously.

45 posted on 10/24/2006 2:01:11 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Hoodlum91

Well, there you go. I might be onto something.


The junk scientists would probably say your bruise proves my theory, in fact.


46 posted on 10/24/2006 2:01:55 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Royal Wulff

Wow, such authority, and just what makes you so sure that there was no "time" before the big bang...I remember reading one theory in Discover Magazine that time doesn't exist anyway..


47 posted on 10/24/2006 2:02:22 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

heh.....heheheheheheheheh


48 posted on 10/24/2006 2:02:52 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: MPJackal
Swine.

Big dinner and big drinks.

49 posted on 10/24/2006 2:03:14 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
Happy birthday, Earth - Creation occurred 6,010 years

LOL!

50 posted on 10/24/2006 2:03:31 PM PDT by Toby06 (Diesel smoke makes me horny.)
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To: gb63

>>I think you are right...but after all, those first six days were really frantic...didn't have time to make many notes...<<

He had a guy write it down later. I just dictated from memory. I am of the impression that He has a pretty good memory though.


51 posted on 10/24/2006 2:03:31 PM PDT by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Naziism was in 1937.)
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To: Alter Kaker

One has to consider the possibility that the Earth could have been created with the appearance of age. "Science" could not account for that now could it. Observing such a thing is not possible at this point.


52 posted on 10/24/2006 2:03:48 PM PDT by Clump
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To: Hoodlum91

Were you in Ohio this past weekend?

:)


53 posted on 10/24/2006 2:04:34 PM PDT by Toby06 (Diesel smoke makes me horny.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

This photograph is of the neolithic megalith at Nabta, Egypt, a Stonehenge-like observatory built, um, 1000 years before the creation of the universe. Bishop Ussher, please come to the front desk...

54 posted on 10/24/2006 2:04:41 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Gumlegs

And maybe a Big movie, like Big Trouble in little China.


55 posted on 10/24/2006 2:05:13 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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To: Clump
One has to consider the possibility that the Earth could have been created with the appearance of age.

So God hid fossils and archaeological artifacts to trick us? My God isn't a liar.

56 posted on 10/24/2006 2:05:36 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: Alter Kaker
This photograph is of the neolithic megalith at Nabta, Egypt, a Stonehenge-like observatory built, um, 1000 years before the creation of the universe.

Shouldn't it look newer?

57 posted on 10/24/2006 2:05:57 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: Toby06

maybe.....


58 posted on 10/24/2006 2:06:48 PM PDT by Hoodlum91 (Staying home on Nov. 7 isn't a punishment for the GOP, its a reward for the Dems.)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Radiocarbon Assumptions and Problems

Like other radiometric methods, radiocarbon dating faces technical problems and operates under some questionable assumptions.

  1. Perhaps the most critical assumption of radiocarbon dating is that the rates of carbon-14 production and decay are in a state of balance or equilibrium, and have been so for millions of years. If this were true, the carbon-12/carbon-14 ratio in living organisms will be the same as the ratio in an organism that lived thousands of years ago. However, we have reason to think that this is not true, as we will see in a later section.

  2. Radiocarbon dating assumes a constant decay rate for the breakdown of carbon-14. At present, we have no firm evidence for any systematic change in this rate.

  3. Contamination by groundwater, soil, or foreign matter is always a potential problem. However, people working with radiocarbon dating feel confident that good sample collection can overcome this problem.

  4. Some organisms may exclude the heavier carbon-14 isotopes preferentially, making them look too old (e.g., living shellfish that have a radiocarbon “age” of several hundred years). Comparison of carbon-12 and carbon-14 with the stable isotope carbon-13 is supposed to correct this problem (see Aitken, 1990, pp. 62-64). Environmental factors, such as forest fires and volcanic eruptions, which increase the local concentrations of carbon dioxide, may also have an effect on the carbon-14/carbon-12 ratio.

  5. Looming over all these assumptions is the idea that cross-checking with other archaeological information will confirm whether the radiocarbon date is “reasonable.” This introduces the specter of subjectivity.

59 posted on 10/24/2006 2:06:58 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
You are assuming there is a gap in Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2...he apparently did not make such an assumption..

Perhaps "gap" was the wrong word. But Genesis 1:1 covers a period of indeterminate length before the famous creative week. There's little reason to assume Gen 1:2 and the creative week (literal or otherwise) happened immediately after the creation of the universe ex nihilo.

60 posted on 10/24/2006 2:07:11 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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