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New Windows attack can kill firewall
Infoworld ^ | 30 October 2006 | Robert McMillan

Posted on 10/31/2006 4:03:06 PM PST by ShadowAce

Hackers have published code that could let an attacker disable the Windows Firewall on certain Windows XP machines.

The code, which was posted on the Internet early Sunday morning, could be used to disable the Windows Firewall on a fully patched Windows XP PC that was running Windows' Internet Connection Service (ICS). This service allows Windows users to essentially turn their PC into a router and share their Internet connection with other computers on the local area network (LAN.) It is typically used by home and small-business users.

The attacker could send a malicious data packet to another PC using ICS that would cause the service to terminate. Because this service is connected to the Windows firewall, this packet would also cause the firewall to stop working, said Tyler Reguly, a research engineer at nCircle Network Security Inc., who has blogged about the issue.

"Once the firewall is down, where's your line of defense?" he said Monday, in an interview.

By knocking off the Windows Firewall, a criminal could open the door to new types of attacks, but there are a number of factors that make such an attack scenario unlikely, Reguly said.

For example, the attacker would have to be within the LAN in order to make the attack work, and, of course, it would only work on systems using ICS, which is disabled by default. Furthermore, the attack would have no effect on any third-party firewall being used by the PC, Reguly said.

Users can avoid the attack by disabling ICS, Reguly said. But this will also kill the shared Internet connection.

An easier solution, may be for ICS users to simply move their networks onto a router or NAT (Network Address Translation) device, said Stefano Zanero, chief technology officer with Secure Network SRL. "They are so cheap right now, and in many cases they offer better protection and a easier administration of your LAN," he said via instant message.

Windows XP appears to be the only platform affected by this attack, which has not been successfully reproduced on Windows Server 2003, Reguly said.

Microsoft 's initial investigation into the matter "has concluded that the issue only impacts users of Windows XP," the company's public relations agency said Monday in a statement. "Microsoft is not aware of any attacks attempting to use the reported vulnerability or of customer impact at this time."


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1 posted on 10/31/2006 4:03:07 PM PST by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

2 posted on 10/31/2006 4:03:20 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
"Once the firewall is down, where's your line of defense?" he said Monday, in an interview.

Where it should be ... on a network appliance.

3 posted on 10/31/2006 4:04:10 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To liberals: Dead enemies need no political or diplomatic solutions.)
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To: Centurion2000
Yup--Also "the attacker would have to be within the LAN in order to make the attack work, and, of course, it would only work on systems using ICS, which is disabled by default. Furthermore, the attack would have no effect on any third-party firewall being used by the PC"
4 posted on 10/31/2006 4:05:43 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
..."has concluded that the issue only impacts users of Windows XP,"...

Oh well that's OK then. It'll only affect a few million people.

5 posted on 10/31/2006 4:06:12 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: ShadowAce

Do these people really have nothing better to do?


6 posted on 10/31/2006 4:08:09 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: TommyDale; MikefromOhio

The arms race continues.


7 posted on 10/31/2006 4:08:40 PM PST by Perdogg (Democratic Party - The political wing of Al Qaida)
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To: FReepapalooza
Do these people really have nothing better to do?

Ya gotta wonder, don't ya?

8 posted on 10/31/2006 4:09:00 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Short sighted thinking there when it comes to the 3rd party firewall. If the attacker can shut down the Windows firewall, what else could the attacker do if they are interested in doing something? There would have to be a hole that would allow them to run their code to shut down the firewall. If they've breached the system to that point, they can likely do any number of other things that might not be in the proof of concept code.


9 posted on 10/31/2006 4:10:33 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.)
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To: facedown

I was thinking the same thing.


10 posted on 10/31/2006 4:10:45 PM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: ShadowAce

Does anyone still use ICS?


11 posted on 10/31/2006 4:11:02 PM PST by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: ShadowAce

I've never used the windows firewall. I don't think it's all that good.


12 posted on 10/31/2006 4:11:06 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ShadowAce

An interesting, but lame hack. You've already got to be inside the firewall to do it. Somebody who's building their network using ICS is already not very serious about security.

The firewall belongs on a box upstream of the LAN anyway.


13 posted on 10/31/2006 4:11:49 PM PST by Ramius
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To: ShadowAce
Users can avoid the attack by disabling ICS, Reguly said. But this will also kill the shared Internet connection.

Why not just get a cheap router with a hardware-based firewall built in?

14 posted on 10/31/2006 4:11:51 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Redcloak
Does anyone still use ICS?

Dial-up users still gotta use it, I believe.

15 posted on 10/31/2006 4:12:13 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Anything but a hardware firewall is useless anyway.


16 posted on 10/31/2006 4:12:56 PM PST by sumocide
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To: ShadowAce

Oh yeah... You have a point there. And here I was hoping for a minor MSFT screwup.


17 posted on 10/31/2006 4:13:28 PM PST by Redcloak (Speak softly and wear a loud shirt.)
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To: Centurion2000
Where it should be ... on a network appliance.

Remember, we are dealing with users here.

Users....at home.

Appliance? My stove is ok. Fridge is keeping the beer cold. Check.

18 posted on 10/31/2006 4:14:31 PM PST by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: sumocide
Anything but a hardware firewall is useless anyway.

Technically, there's no such thing. What you're thinking of is an appliance that only runs firewall software. While they're usually better than the Windows firewall, they still consist of just software.

19 posted on 10/31/2006 4:14:43 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: FReepapalooza
Do these people really have nothing better to do?

Actually no they don't. Finding exploits and examining code is literally the purpose of some of these hackers' lives.

20 posted on 10/31/2006 4:16:24 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To liberals: Dead enemies need no political or diplomatic solutions.)
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To: ShadowAce
The code, which was posted on the Internet early Sunday morning, could be used to disable the Windows Firewall

Who uses Windows Firewall?

21 posted on 10/31/2006 4:17:24 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: ShadowAce
This will bring down an XP firewall remotely:

'
Start

Set objFirewall = CreateObject("HNetCfg.FwMgr")
Set objPolicy = objFirewall.LocalPolicy.CurrentProfile

objPolicy.FirewallEnabled = FALSE

'
End



Of course you have to know the local administrative credentials, which are all too often easy to guess, if there are any at all on a home Windows PC.
22 posted on 10/31/2006 4:17:54 PM PST by KoRn
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To: LasVegasMac

80 buck for relative peace of mind on the home computer is ok by me. Of course hardening the PC itself is important as well.

But I see your point.

23 posted on 10/31/2006 4:18:33 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To liberals: Dead enemies need no political or diplomatic solutions.)
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To: KoRn

Please don't encourage any Windows PC users to switch to a secure and modern OS, such as OSX.

The natural law of survival of the fittest and extinction of the inept must be kept intact.


24 posted on 10/31/2006 4:20:35 PM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY)
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To: KoRn

Uh Oh. Now our RT will call you out on posting exploit code.... :)


25 posted on 10/31/2006 4:21:02 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
While they're usually better than the Windows firewall, they still consist of just software

Don't forget that ASIC and FPGA's are hardware ... crap ... even those have some kind of software.

26 posted on 10/31/2006 4:21:15 PM PST by Centurion2000 (To liberals: Dead enemies need no political or diplomatic solutions.)
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To: Centurion2000

Don't do that!!! I had to look to see if mine was still back there...


27 posted on 10/31/2006 4:23:41 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: ShadowAce
I've used the Tiny Personal Firewall for years; from Window NT to Window XP Pro.

I wouldn't be without it.

28 posted on 10/31/2006 4:23:42 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: ShadowAce

Hahaha
I have a hardware firewall in my router, I use WindowsXP's firewall and I use Zone Alarm firewall. I use SpyWare Blaster which sort of locks down your computer in advance of assaults. Also Windows Defender and McAfee anti virus. Also AVG anti virus. Some of these are run only when I remember to. Once a week or so.


29 posted on 10/31/2006 4:28:57 PM PST by dennisw (Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and her lawyer)
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To: ShadowAce
"Uh Oh. Now our RT will call you out on posting exploit code.... :)"

ROFL! I was just about to post another script to open a remote shell on the windows machine after you get the firewall down! :p

PS: I doubt anyone could kill IPTables in such a way =)

30 posted on 10/31/2006 4:33:23 PM PST by KoRn
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To: ShadowAce

How do I check if ICS is active and if so, how do I disable it?


31 posted on 10/31/2006 4:36:16 PM PST by CedarDave (FreeRepublic:The big bad bully beating up defenseless ladies--only in your dreams; get over it, Chix)
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To: Ramius

Yeah, but how many high speed internet providers supply decent hardware to non technical end users? I've been in too many homes and been appalled by junk provided by the internet provider.

Although, I recently went DSL and SBC provided me with a great router/firewall.


32 posted on 10/31/2006 4:37:58 PM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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To: Centurion2000

33 posted on 10/31/2006 4:38:32 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: dennisw

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34 posted on 10/31/2006 4:41:49 PM PST by dennisw ("For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks” -- Matt. 12:34)
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To: CedarDave
How do I check if ICS is active and if so, how do I disable it?

Essentially, ICS is used when one computer on a network is the computer that actually has Internet access--usually over a modem.

ICS is used by that computer to share it's internet access with other computers on the network. It's usually used by dial-up accounts.

If you do not have your home computers set up in the above configuration, don't worry about it.

35 posted on 10/31/2006 4:42:37 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I'm amused by sheeple who willingly choose Windows when there are far better choices out there.


36 posted on 10/31/2006 4:50:02 PM PST by mgstarr
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To: Perdogg

Anyone dependent on the Microsoft firewall is just asking for trouble anyway.

I am amazed how many people I know who don't even back up their hard drive on a regular basis.


37 posted on 10/31/2006 4:52:14 PM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: ShadowAce

LOL--who in the world trusts their computer to the Windows firewall? Way too funny!!


38 posted on 10/31/2006 5:05:13 PM PST by Clara Lou (.)
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To: ShadowAce

mepis


39 posted on 10/31/2006 5:09:42 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: KoRn
In the past there have been exploits against IPTables, but it is darned solid code these days.

One of the more interesting hacks I've seen on locking down a Linux-based firewall is to remove the 'poweroff' from your shutdown sequence. You basically boot the PC up, set up your firewall =exactly= as you want it, then "shutdown".

However, without the poweroff, you'll basically end up with a box that has all services turned off, and the disks unmounted. The only thing running is the kernel ... and iptables, which runs as a kernel process! The thing will be as close to not running as possible, but would still be passing packets. Of course, if you need to make a change to your rules, you have to physically power off and reboot, then make your changes and 'shutdown' again. This makes this more of an interesting hack than something actually useful, but I thought it was cool. Of course, you also don't want your init scripts to kill your ethernet while it's killing other processes as well.

40 posted on 10/31/2006 7:04:09 PM PST by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: zeugma

Very interesting.


41 posted on 10/31/2006 7:05:35 PM PST by KoRn
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To: ShadowAce

Requires ICS is enabled? LOL are you really that desperate to post Windows hacks? I guess the larger point that some people are fanatical about hacking Windows was well made however.


42 posted on 10/31/2006 7:30:14 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: nnn0jeh

ping


43 posted on 10/31/2006 7:32:05 PM PST by kalee
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To: KoRn
This will bring down an XP firewall remotely:

Your code sample brings one thought to bear: Death to VB!

44 posted on 11/01/2006 6:52:54 AM PST by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Nightshift

ping...


45 posted on 11/01/2006 7:29:34 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: Cicero

Me neither...


46 posted on 11/02/2006 10:43:20 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: ShadowAce

Not if people don't know how to use it...8^)


47 posted on 11/02/2006 10:51:50 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Golden Eagle; ShadowAce

Dude, ICS is disabled by default, and his point was that most people don't need ICS enabled--so on most computers it's disabled anyways...


48 posted on 11/02/2006 10:53:42 AM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
ICS is disabled by default

Obviously, nor is it hardly ever enabled by anyone else, making this whole thread a waste of bandwidth to anyone other than those whose lives seem to revolve around glorifying the latest Windows hack.

49 posted on 11/02/2006 12:42:39 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle

They're not glorifying the latest Windows hack--it makes news because 90+% of people use Windows...


50 posted on 11/02/2006 12:45:02 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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