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Breaking: Press release regarding Ted Haggard
New Life Church ^ | 11/04/06 | staff

Posted on 11/04/2006 2:16:36 PM PST by loreldan

We, the Overseer Board of New Life Church, have concluded our deliberations concerning the moral failings of Pastor Ted Haggard. Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct. The language of our church bylaws state that as Overseers we must decide in cases where the Senior Pastor has "demonstrated immoral conduct" whether we must "remove the pastor from his position or to discipline him in any way they deem necessary."

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1 posted on 11/04/2006 2:16:37 PM PST by loreldan
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To: loreldan

They need to remove him.


2 posted on 11/04/2006 2:18:48 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: Dallas59

They just did.


3 posted on 11/04/2006 2:19:09 PM PST by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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To: loreldan
Well, a guy I never heard of of before has now been removed from his position of power because he committed an immoral sexual act.

I think I'll go vote DEMOCRAT. Oh, wait, they WORSHIP the people who are sexually immoral. Never mind.

4 posted on 11/04/2006 2:21:22 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Dallas59

They have removed him and will select a new lead Pastor.


5 posted on 11/04/2006 2:21:34 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (God Bless America and The Republicans)
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To: loreldan
Couldn't get the link to work. The man needs to be helped if he wishes to remain in the Church but not as a leader....if he wants the help.
6 posted on 11/04/2006 2:21:40 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: loreldan

They did the right thing. I'm struck by how compassionate yet firm they seem to be.


7 posted on 11/04/2006 2:21:41 PM PST by USArmySpouse
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To: loreldan

How very sad for the community. For his family. I will pray for them all and him as well.


8 posted on 11/04/2006 2:22:07 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: loreldan

It's a sad situation, but the elders did the right thing.


9 posted on 11/04/2006 2:22:33 PM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: loreldan

Good job. Straightforward, practical, and charitable.

I wish the congregation the best.


10 posted on 11/04/2006 2:22:50 PM PST by Tax-chick ("If we have no fear, Pentecost comes again." ~ Bishop William Curlin)
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To: Dallas59

"They need to remove him."
They did.

"we have decided that the most
positive and productive direction for our church is his dismissal and removal."


11 posted on 11/04/2006 2:22:57 PM PST by gb63
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To: loreldan


The elders of this church did the right thing.

Unfortunately this was beyond the Matt. 18:15-17 stage and went public.


12 posted on 11/04/2006 2:23:01 PM PST by Mrs.Z
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To: loreldan
I am assuming this is the Pastor with the Male escort and Methanphetimine problem?
13 posted on 11/04/2006 2:23:18 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: USArmySpouse

Yes, this beats the usual situation where some church leader is caught in some heinous sin, is put into "counseling," and then declared "fixed" within a couple of weeks and is back in the pulpit.


14 posted on 11/04/2006 2:23:41 PM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: Dallas59

They are.


15 posted on 11/04/2006 2:23:56 PM PST by svcw
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To: USArmySpouse
They did the right thing. I'm struck by how compassionate yet firm they seem to be.

Yes. What great rolemodelling.

16 posted on 11/04/2006 2:24:09 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: USArmySpouse

Conservatives properly remove their warts.


Liberals point to their warts and tell everyone that they're beautiful roses, and we must ALL love them.


17 posted on 11/04/2006 2:24:10 PM PST by bannie
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To: USArmySpouse
Because this is the way Christians should behave.
18 posted on 11/04/2006 2:24:56 PM PST by svcw
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To: loreldan
Two great moments in public prevarication:
I phoned him repeatedly about the meth and then bought the meth, but I threw the meth away.

I went to see him for a massage, but I didn't have sex with him.

Thanks, Ted, we needed that...

19 posted on 11/04/2006 2:26:24 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Dallas59

Yes. Up until now he only admitted buying meth but not using it. It appears that they have verified at least some of the male escort claim as well now.


20 posted on 11/04/2006 2:26:32 PM PST by loreldan (Without coffee I am nothing.)
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To: loreldan

The Swaggart legacy continues. There have been 17 well-known preachers that have ended lucrative careers with displays of public immorality. One wonders what brings it on, but excess money seems to be a thread binding it together.


21 posted on 11/04/2006 2:26:40 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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To: loreldan

From the letter: "We have decided that the most positive and productive direction for our church is his dismissal and removal."


22 posted on 11/04/2006 2:27:46 PM PST by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus)
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In consultation with leading evangelicals and experts familiar with the type of
behavior Pastor Haggard has demonstrated, we have decided that the most
positive and productive direction for our church is his dismissal and removal.
In addition, the Overseers will continue to explore the depth of Pastor
Haggard's offense so that a plan of healing and restoration can begin.


23 posted on 11/04/2006 2:28:10 PM PST by Rio (Don't make me come over there....)
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To: Dallas59
I am assuming this is the Pastor with the Male escort and Methanphetimine problem?

Yes, and as you could expect from that type of person, one of those anti-evolution idiots trying to dumb down our schools.

24 posted on 11/04/2006 2:28:37 PM PST by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Yes, the Church(s) has higher moral standards than our gubmint - who would have thought. I guess otherwise, we'd have many empty seats in gov't but I don't see that as a bad thing but very desirable.
25 posted on 11/04/2006 2:29:47 PM PST by mcshot ("If it ain't broke it doesn't have enough features." paraphrased anon.)
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To: GOP Poet

Former Southwest Community Church Pastor David Moore had been a very popular minister, preaching weekly to huge crowds at his Indian Wells church. He had taken over as pastor in 1988, when the church had only 400 members. During his tenure, 12,000 people joined to his flock.
The Los Angeles Daily Journal reports that his “Moore on Life” business, which sold tapes based on his sermons, spread his message across the nation.
But in 2000, the teacher of Christian values found himself with his wife and another heterosexual couple in the backyard of a home. They were in a hot tub and the two wives were topless.
The couples decided to take some photos...............................


26 posted on 11/04/2006 2:30:41 PM PST by itsahoot (If the GOP does not do something about immigration, immigration will do something about the GOP)
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To: USArmySpouse

Hate the sin, love the sinner.


27 posted on 11/04/2006 2:31:37 PM PST by zerosix
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To: Dallas59
I would hate to be the bank that holds the mortgage on that church building.
28 posted on 11/04/2006 2:32:04 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: loreldan
Sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you dont. Tisk, tisk.


29 posted on 11/04/2006 2:32:51 PM PST by newzjunkey (Arnold-McClintock / YES 1A, 1E, 83, 85, 90 / San Diego: NO A / YES B & C)
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To: GOP Poet

Reminds me sort of what happened at my old church (a Presbyterian Church in America congregation) when one of the elders was caught in adultery. The pastor asked us all to stay after the end of the 11:00 service for an important announcement; then the elder came up in front of everyone with the pastor by his side and admitted what he'd done and asked our forgiveness. The pastor then told us that the elder was dismissed from his position per the church bylaws and would be permanently barred from holding any leadership position in the church and that his remaining in the congregation would be handled by church bylaws (I don't remember the particulars). Then he led us in prayer for the man as all the other elders came up and hugged him and reassured him.

Yes, the man fell into sin, but the fact that he stood up in front of four hundred people, most of which he knew and who knew him, and confessed it, struck me as probably the hardest thing any of us would ever have to do. He was punished for it, but also forgiven. It was a fantastic example of how to handle something like that, on all sides.

I was really hoping that Rev. Haggard's semi-denial denials were true. Sadly, it sounds like they aren't.

}:-)4


30 posted on 11/04/2006 2:34:18 PM PST by Moose4 (They caught me white and nerdy.)
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To: loreldan
Three rules for healthy church leadership--

1. Accountability
2. Accountability
3. Accountability

31 posted on 11/04/2006 2:34:51 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: loreldan
Never heard of this guy. Why is this little peccadillo important. A guy likes guys? Some do/Some dont.
Big deal. As long as he does not hit on me.
32 posted on 11/04/2006 2:35:33 PM PST by Gideon Reader ("Ahh! The ROP. When someone tells you they want to kill you,...believe him")
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To: loreldan

I swear, if I hear one more dumb news reader ask if this is going to depress the base vote, I will shoot my television.


33 posted on 11/04/2006 2:35:40 PM PST by Bahbah (Support the military and their mission, vote Republican.)
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To: USArmySpouse

Still, the leftwing extremists will be coming out Wednesday morning complaining about "Gay Bashing at the New Life Church".


34 posted on 11/04/2006 2:36:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Paulus Invictus
One wonders what brings it on, but excess money seems to be a thread binding it together.

You really think poor pastors are immune to adultry and drug abuse?

35 posted on 11/04/2006 2:36:42 PM PST by Always Right
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To: loreldan

I have a problem with referring to newly defrocked Haggard as Pastor Haggard.

I think this church org needs to get a clue on the meaning and value of words.


36 posted on 11/04/2006 2:37:33 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: loreldan

He'll be a lonesome fugitive now, and all his friends are gonna be strangers. Pity, mama tried to raise him better...


37 posted on 11/04/2006 2:38:51 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Who invented rock and roll hiccups?)
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To: loreldan
Someone I never heard of, does something shameful... makes me want to stay home, makes me want to vote Democrat, makes homosexuality moral, makes gay marriage OK, - NOT!
38 posted on 11/04/2006 2:39:02 PM PST by PatrickF4
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To: snarks_when_bored
Hey, we didn't believe it either when Chuck Robb said he sat around naked in a not tub with Miss Virginia and all that happened was a "back rub".

Some things are simply not believable.

39 posted on 11/04/2006 2:39:24 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Dallas59

"They need to remove him".



They need to flay the hypocritical pervert alive! I wish I could be as forgiving as God is, but, I ain't!
There are no excuses for what he did, none, zilch, nada!
I've been hungry, I've been horny, we all have, but most of us don't betray the faith, just put this sorry POS aside, I don't want to hear his excuses!


40 posted on 11/04/2006 2:40:36 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: Paulus Invictus
One wonders what brings it on


41 posted on 11/04/2006 2:41:32 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Dallas59

actually , they have handled this in a Biblical manner. Satan means this to be destructive, but God will win out. He always does. Sin, is sin ,is sin....whether in the church or not. The church cannot tolerate sin, but it must ALWAYS love the sinner. My prayer is that his family will now come along side him, that he will have a attitude of repentance, and find healing that only God can give. David, the Shepherd Boy repented, and God brought healing. However the consequences of that sin never left David....


42 posted on 11/04/2006 2:43:28 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 44:5 "Put your HOPE in God, for I will yet praise Him, my Savior and my God.")
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To: My2Cents

Exactly. So often with a popular "famous" pastor, people really are reluctant to discipline.

Also tells me the proof must be pretty overwhelming and ugly.


43 posted on 11/04/2006 2:45:47 PM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Paulus Invictus
"One wonders what brings it on"

Satan is what brings it on. He is especially happy to get those in a position of trust over the faithful. And he pursues them with a vengeance. That in no way excuses them, they should be more aware than most of the danger.
44 posted on 11/04/2006 2:48:05 PM PST by pepperdog (I hate the lying MSM)
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To: muawiyah

Wasn't Robb the governor of Virginia at the time and he did NOT resign?


45 posted on 11/04/2006 2:48:10 PM PST by Dante3
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To: muawiyah

Yup.


46 posted on 11/04/2006 2:48:26 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: Paulus Invictus

Which is why I never give money to televangelists. I'd rather see my money go to a local church or charity. I just don't put a lot of trust in wealthy TV preachers. Greed gets to them.


47 posted on 11/04/2006 2:48:54 PM PST by derllak
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To: loreldan

He's a blatant cornholer!


48 posted on 11/04/2006 2:49:22 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Paulus Invictus
Thats what happens when anybody can put up a sign and declare themselves a "Pastor"

Most of these big guys are crazy crooks in it for the money, their "flock" are a few slices short of a full loaf themselves.

49 posted on 11/04/2006 2:49:25 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: Mrs.Z
Unfortunately this was beyond the Matt. 18:15-17 stage and went public.

That is not what Matthew 18 is about. They followed the injuction regarding elders quite correctly. A public rebuke is mandatory.

1Ti 5:19-20 Don't receive an accusation against an elder, except at the word of two or three witnesses. Those who sin, reprove in the sight of all, that the rest also may be in fear.
50 posted on 11/04/2006 2:49:49 PM PST by safisoft (Give me Torah!)
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