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U.S. pastor says guilty of sexual immorality [Haggard finally admits it]
Reuters ^ | Nov 5, 2006

Posted on 11/05/2006 10:35:54 AM PST by VictoryGal

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (Reuters) - Disgraced U.S. evangelist Ted Haggard, a vocal opponent of gay marriage, said on Sunday that he was guilty of "sexual immorality" and that he had long battled with a "repulsive" side of his life.

"I am guilty of sexual immorality, I am a deceiver and a liar. There is a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark and I've been warring against it my entire adult life", Haggard said in a letter that was read to his New Life Church in Colorado Springs by a church overseer.

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I'm glad he finally got out of his state of denial-- although it looks like he was forced to. His poor wife and kids, sigh... :-(
1 posted on 11/05/2006 10:35:55 AM PST by VictoryGal
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To: VictoryGal

I'm still trying to figure out exactly what he's guilty of. The accuser couldn't passs a lie detector test when asked if they had sex.


2 posted on 11/05/2006 10:39:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: VictoryGal

Yeah, I hope he goes away forever now.


3 posted on 11/05/2006 10:40:01 AM PST by CaliPhant
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To: VictoryGal

Great. Another Christian leader bits the dust. The left is loving it.


4 posted on 11/05/2006 10:40:04 AM PST by spower
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To: VictoryGal

That does it; I'm voting Democrat--to help preserve my values in light of this outrage.


5 posted on 11/05/2006 10:41:04 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: VictoryGal

What's with preachers named Haggard? Is it something like the Superman or Kennedy curse?


6 posted on 11/05/2006 10:42:12 AM PST by aligncare (Socialism is on the march in America)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Hey if we don't vote 'rat we'll never be able to celebrate this for the sheer beauty of it.

Then it's poppers, gay orgies and parties every day. Oh what a wonderful world.


7 posted on 11/05/2006 10:42:35 AM PST by romanesq
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To: spower
"Great. Another Christian leader bites the dust pillow.
8 posted on 11/05/2006 10:43:20 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: VictoryGal

So co-incidental that this worm came out with these accusations right before the election. Haggard should be tarred and feathered for rank hypocrisy, but one should suspect the timing of these revelations from his homosexual prostitute.


9 posted on 11/05/2006 10:43:27 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: VictoryGal

This is why gays don't belong in the military.


10 posted on 11/05/2006 10:43:56 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

LOL Yep, I'm gonna run out and support gay marriage because some minister I never heard of may or may not have been caving with some rump spelunker I've never heard of.


11 posted on 11/05/2006 10:44:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yeah, how does the MSM get to thinking this'll have an impact on the election? Smells like desparate to me.


12 posted on 11/05/2006 10:44:18 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: VictoryGal

Want to bet Haggard volunteers to perform Governor McJersey's gay wedding...probably an Oprah show coming from this freak too.


13 posted on 11/05/2006 10:44:32 AM PST by peyton randolph (No man knows the day nor the hour of The Coming of The Great White Handkerchief.)
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To: cripplecreek

I question the timing of this.


14 posted on 11/05/2006 10:44:33 AM PST by My2Cents (The Democrat Party's '06 platform: Offering a "Suicide Pact With America.")
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To: cripplecreek
Yep, I'm gonna run out and support gay marriage because some minister I never heard of may or may not have been caving with some rump spelunker I've never heard of.

LOL, my reaction exactly.

15 posted on 11/05/2006 10:45:07 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: VictoryGal

I'm sure this has been asked several times, but who is this guy?? I'm a Christian and I've never heard of the him. Seems to be getting a whole lot of national coverage when its basically an internal church issue.


16 posted on 11/05/2006 10:46:09 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
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To: cripplecreek

POLYGRAPHS ARE NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE.


17 posted on 11/05/2006 10:46:55 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( THE KEYBOARD IS ACTING BROKEN UNLESS ON CAPS. SORRY.)
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To: kittymyrib

"but one should suspect the timing of these revelations from his homosexual prostitute."

Of course. He did it for political purposes...no question about it. Still, Haggard's a creep. He deceived his wife and family. He deceived his congregation. Both are well rid of him.

This won't affect anyone's vote, nor will it keep people from voting. It's just one more creepy person betraying other people's trust.


18 posted on 11/05/2006 10:47:03 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: VictoryGal
""I am so sorry for the circumstances that have caused shame and embarrassment for all of you," he said, adding that he had confused the situation by giving inconsistent remarks to reporters denying the scandal.

"The fact is I am guilty of sexual immorality. And I take responsibility for the entire problem. I am a deceiver and a liar. There's a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I have been warring against it for all of my adult life," he said."

Forced to admit it my eye. He admitted to what he did, but not ALL of the allegations. Forgiveness is very much in order. Find those words in J F'n K's 'statement'. They are not there. So no forgiveness for Jon Carry.
19 posted on 11/05/2006 10:47:49 AM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Keyboard works again.


20 posted on 11/05/2006 10:48:05 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( One billion Americans.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

POLYGRAPHS ARE NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE.






PARAGRAPHS ARE NOT ALWAYS ACCURATE


21 posted on 11/05/2006 10:48:15 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

Yes. ?


22 posted on 11/05/2006 10:49:11 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( One billion Americans.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

You forgot the sarcasm.


23 posted on 11/05/2006 10:49:38 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: VictoryGal

I didn't know who this guy was but the minute I saw a video of him online I ask how anyone could think this guy is straight, cause he is totally flaming gay IMO!


24 posted on 11/05/2006 10:49:42 AM PST by Halls (Nothing is final until it is final! Vote Republican this election day!)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Monographs are often not accurate as well.


25 posted on 11/05/2006 10:50:30 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: kb2614
President of the US Evangelical Association (30,000,000 members).

More than just a pastor.

26 posted on 11/05/2006 10:50:40 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Me too. Shows the republicans are ALL hypocrites...Now Hillary--there's a god fearing woman I can get behind. Can't wait to vote across-the-board democrat in the New York elections on Tuesday, because THIS preacher sinned.


27 posted on 11/05/2006 10:51:08 AM PST by aligncare (Socialism is on the march in America)
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To: Halls

I didn't think I had much of a gaydar. I saw this guy interviewed about two years ago and thought to myself: "this guy obviously goes to Pottery Barn on a regular basis."


28 posted on 11/05/2006 10:51:21 AM PST by Clemenza (I have such a raging clue!)
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To: peyton randolph

He has to come out with a book to sell first...

Or maybe he'll do the right thing and retreat to privacy and fix his life. And serve as a lesson to not rely on middlemen for your salvation-- go straight to the source: JC Himself.


29 posted on 11/05/2006 10:51:35 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: kb2614

I've been a Christian all my adult life and I have never heard of him either.


30 posted on 11/05/2006 10:52:37 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: kb2614

"I'm sure this has been asked several times, but who is this guy?? I'm a Christian and I've never heard of the him. Seems to be getting a whole lot of national coverage when its basically an internal church issue. "

You may not have heard of him, but he's been a pretty prominent character in the evangelical movement. He was he head of the NAE, a group with lots of members, including most of the envangelicals you have heard of.

As for his church...it was his. It's a huge edifice, built with the money of his congregation, which numbers about 11,000. They were duped by this creep.

He's yet another in a long line of religious hucksters, pretending to lead people to Jesus, while pocketing their money and doing as they please.

It's easy. You just have to have a good speaking voice, be good-looking, and know enough about the Bible to preach. Add some good musicians and a lot of Hollywood-style production values and pretty soon you have a mega church.

Of course, there's a lot of collection plate passing, fund drives of all sorts, and general grifting to do, but con men are good at that. This one built a pretty good little con game, but he made a mistake. He thought he could get away with getting sex from some gay prostitute and taking drugs.

Pride. It's a terrible thing, and this guy was full of it.

As for it affecting anyone's vote...well that's just silly. There are sure a lot of people who were members of his congregation, though, who have to be asking themselves how they could have been so deceived.

An old story. Rent "Elmer Gantry" from NetFlix. It's a perfect explanation of how this happens.


31 posted on 11/05/2006 10:53:16 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: peyton randolph

Mr. Haggard seems remorseful, and he acknowledges what he did was wrong.


32 posted on 11/05/2006 10:53:49 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The EU is opposed to Saddam Hussein's death sentence.)
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To: kb2614

http://www.tedhaggard.com/bio.jsp

Pastor of a large "seeker friendly" church in Colorado Springs, CO. The real reason the left is so happy is that this nitwit was National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), the largest evangelical group in America.

Of course, it doesn't change the way those people vote.


33 posted on 11/05/2006 10:54:23 AM PST by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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To: spower
Another Christian leader bits the dust.

Another cheap huckster in a big box loses his fleecing the flock permit. These guys are tiresome.

34 posted on 11/05/2006 10:54:58 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Dancing through life like a street mime with tourettes syndrome.)
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To: AFA-Michigan; AliVeritas; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; BabaOreally; Balke; BigFinn; BlackElk; ...
He needs to avail himself of one of the many organizations which help heal people from homosexualty. And he should have taken himself out of his pastor position a long, long time ago. A phony religious leader is more disgusting and abominable than an "out there" vice addict and promoter. Wolf in sheeps' clothing to the max.

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35 posted on 11/05/2006 10:54:58 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

"Mr. Haggard seems remorseful, and he acknowledges what he did was wrong.
"

Took his time about it, though, didn't he?


36 posted on 11/05/2006 10:55:04 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Clemenza
Did someone mention shopping at the pottery barn?

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37 posted on 11/05/2006 10:55:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: MineralMan
This won't affect anyone's vote, nor will it keep people from voting. It's just one more creepy person betraying other people's trust.

That's it in a nutshell. One sick perv (that most Americans never heard of before the other day) certainly isn't going to affect an election.

38 posted on 11/05/2006 10:55:55 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: MineralMan

Yep, but at least he did.


39 posted on 11/05/2006 10:56:01 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( The EU is opposed to Saddam Hussein's death sentence.)
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To: VictoryGal
I believe Haggard is the guy the MSM has been setting up recently as an advocate of the global warming theory.

His dethroning actually helps Pres. Bush in his opposition to Gore and the environmentalists.

40 posted on 11/05/2006 10:56:31 AM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: kb2614
I'm sure this has been asked several times, but who is this guy?? I'm a Christian and I've never heard of the him. Seems to be getting a whole lot of national coverage when its basically an internal church issue.

I was wondering the same thing last week when I was hearing ABC Radio News lead off with it at the top of every hour in breathless, excited tones.

41 posted on 11/05/2006 10:57:25 AM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: MineralMan

From the lowliest surf to the grandest kings, we are human and will sin. Anyone grounded in faith understands. It's only the godless liberals who don't understand and who see some advantage here.


42 posted on 11/05/2006 10:58:58 AM PST by aligncare (Socialism is on the march in America)
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To: VictoryGal


43 posted on 11/05/2006 11:00:51 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
All of us have sinned in one way or another. The difference here is, men of the cloth are supposed to be leaders and show by example what being a Christian is all about. When people like Haggard, Swaggart and Jim and Tammy Bakker fail in their examples, it demoralizes those who believed in them and gives yet more ammunition to Christian-haters.

If you can't keep your own house in order, you have no business being a religious leader.
44 posted on 11/05/2006 11:01:23 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." (Psalm 53:1))
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To: VictoryGal

Pray for his wife and children. They are the victims of this sick and vile man.


45 posted on 11/05/2006 11:03:20 AM PST by CheneyChick (Another College Educated OEF Veteran for President Bush...)
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To: spower

The Democrats have no room to critisize. They are such hypocrytes. They are the party of the immoral. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.


46 posted on 11/05/2006 11:03:32 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: VictoryGal

I agree with you, no legs to this and no legs to the saddam story. Maybe the election is just to close now for all these useless attempts to change anything.


47 posted on 11/05/2006 11:04:18 AM PST by indylindy (be careful you don't become what you hate the most)
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To: aligncare

"From the lowliest surf to the grandest kings, we are human and will sin."

Well, I don't use the word "sin." But you're right. On the other hand, there are misbehaviors and misbehaviors. It's particularly egregious when someone like this man, who vaunted himself up as a leader against things like homosexuality does the very thing he's preaching against.

Most ministers don't do this. Yes, they may be prideful or drink too much, or take advantage of their congregation to become rich and powerful. But they don't do what they're preaching against.

Haggard is a false minister. He led his flock down one path while he was on a different path. That sort of dishonesty is the worst kind of hypocrisy.

He deserves the disgust of those who followed him down the path he was not following. They needn't change their views, but they must be looking in a different way at how they blindly followed a charlatan.

It's worth thinking about. I've known many pastors, priests, and ministers in my life. Almost all were good men who believed what they taught, and tried very hard to lead the life they were asking of others. Did they make mistakes? Sure...but not like this creep.


48 posted on 11/05/2006 11:04:23 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Balding_Eagle
This is why gays don't belong in the military.

Or the clergy.

49 posted on 11/05/2006 11:04:32 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for President Bush and our country.)
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To: CheneyChick

"Pray for his wife and children. They are the victims of this sick and vile man.

"

As are the 11,000 members of his congregation.


50 posted on 11/05/2006 11:05:10 AM PST by MineralMan (Non-evangelical atheist)
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