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Are we allowed to say it now?
None | 11/8/06 | dangus

Posted on 11/07/2006 11:20:16 PM PST by dangus

Are we allowed to say it now? Can we drop the happy warrior schtick? In the past six years, we've seen the deficit explode like never before in the history of the country. A flaming bra-burner nominated to the Supreme Court, only to be replaced by a (hopefully) stealth conservative. The most inept State Department in the history of the United States. (Clinton's wasn't incompetent; they were flat-out fifth columnists.) 20 million new illegal aliens, and barely-contained glee that the election-day losses mean we can welcome another 50 million in.

And I hate to say this, but when we won the war in Iraq, I was praying for my friend who was an MP, fearing for his safety in the dangerous house-to-house searches. And then they never came. So I put joyful trust that the military didn't need to do such a dangerous task. Then came the insurgency. And bold optimism. And more violence. And more bold optimism. But, um, after 3,000 of America's finest dead, it becomes plainly apparent that Rummy and Bush simply didn't realize that disarming the terrorists was necessary.

So can we say it now?

That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever?


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1 posted on 11/07/2006 11:20:16 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

I can say this now: You are an idiot.


2 posted on 11/07/2006 11:21:47 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Republican, atheist, pro-lifer, stranded in Blue Boston)
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To: dangus

No.

But we can say that you are an idiot and probably have done more to contribute to dead soldiers than Bush.


3 posted on 11/07/2006 11:22:14 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: dangus

You can say it, but you would be wrong. I think his father was even worse.


4 posted on 11/07/2006 11:22:48 PM PST by fatez
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To: dangus
In the past six years, we've seen the deficit explode like never before in the history of the country.

THe deficit as a percentage of GDP is actually on the low side historically.

Out economy is HUGE!!
5 posted on 11/07/2006 11:22:52 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: dangus

In before pulled thread.


6 posted on 11/07/2006 11:23:03 PM PST by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: lonestar67

I guess Bushbots never can accept new data.


7 posted on 11/07/2006 11:23:49 PM PST by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: lonestar67

"But we can say that you are an idiot and probably have done more to contribute to dead soldiers than Bush. "

would be fascinated to learn more about your views on this. Thinking a blogger causes more KIA's in iraq than POTUS is a fascinated case study.


8 posted on 11/07/2006 11:24:03 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: dangus

STFU. 3000 dead big deal we have lost more than that in days.


9 posted on 11/07/2006 11:24:07 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: MinorityRepublican

Me, too!


10 posted on 11/07/2006 11:24:17 PM PST by Theresawithanh (Every time I hear the word "exercise", I wash my mouth out with chocolate.)
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To: dangus

Uhmm....drinking pretty heavily tonight, I presume?


11 posted on 11/07/2006 11:25:29 PM PST by Wingy
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To: dangus

The problem is not somebody named Bush.

It's about people named Ney and Foley.


12 posted on 11/07/2006 11:25:53 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: dangus

Getting your talking points from Couric, Matthews, or Olberman?


13 posted on 11/07/2006 11:26:07 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: dangus

Ok, so where is your great solution?


14 posted on 11/07/2006 11:26:08 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dangus
we've seen the deficit explode like never before in the history of the country.

It's never a good idea to start out a rant with a lie.

15 posted on 11/07/2006 11:26:34 PM PST by Howlin
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To: dangus
That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever?

Nothing like a rat jumping off a sinking ship as opposed to someone bailing water and plugging the holes.

16 posted on 11/07/2006 11:26:48 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: dangus
That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever?

No, his father was.

17 posted on 11/07/2006 11:27:01 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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To: dangus
Im sure all the Islamo Facists and the Democrats agree with you 100%.

You are an idiot.

19 posted on 11/07/2006 11:27:16 PM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: dangus

Bush has been a good leader ,has he been a conservative,nope. Would I today still vote for him over Kerry or Gore knowing what I know. Yes.


20 posted on 11/07/2006 11:27:43 PM PST by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: dangus

What an idiot. We can only be glad that you have only one vote and no place in public life.


21 posted on 11/07/2006 11:27:49 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: dangus

in terms of post-occuupation behavior and results, probably, at least since 1918. I don't care what bushbots say, Iraq's current situation is not even close to what was envisioned in 2002/3.

In the sense that some of those responding to you seem to think, likely not. TO me the major issue in iraq was securing long-term access to forward air bases/terrestrial air bases for any future problems in the area, and to date this is still possible. As far as the conversion of iraq into a republican government that actually governs, I am very dubious, but that is a secondary issue.


22 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:05 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: dangus

Dangyou.


23 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:53 PM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: msnimje

"Out economy is HUGE!!


do you account for inflation in dollar comparisons?


24 posted on 11/07/2006 11:28:54 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: dangus

Oh boy....another vanity.....woo hoo !!!!


25 posted on 11/07/2006 11:29:35 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Ol' Sparky
That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever? No, his father was

My vote goes for U.S.Grant.

26 posted on 11/07/2006 11:29:39 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: Echo Talon

wow I pray you said that in anger and not actually meant that.


27 posted on 11/07/2006 11:29:49 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: Echo Talon
STFU. 3000 dead big deal we have lost more than that in days.

I'm sorry, are you trivializing the deaths of our fine folks in the military (as in "big deal")? I'm thinking I misunderstood your post.
28 posted on 11/07/2006 11:29:53 PM PST by RedCell ("...thou shalt kill thine enemy before he killeth you by any means available" - Dick Marcinko)
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To: dangus

How soon we forget Warren Gamaliel Harding.


29 posted on 11/07/2006 11:29:54 PM PST by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn?t really talk ? he was hitting on my wife)
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To: linn37

I don't agree with everything Bush has done, but I believe far and away, he is the best man that could have been in the White House today. Maybe that's more a statement on how sorry all of the other politicians out there are, rather than on how good President Bush is.


30 posted on 11/07/2006 11:30:15 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dangus

That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever?

Why are you doing this?? Why don't you look at all that has gone right under this president including the state of the economy, the fact we've been protected for 5+ years from further attack, the fact we did hold Congress and the Senate for 6 years and got two fine SCOTUS Justices?? Iraq is a tough fight, but to pronounce judgement on Bush over a war we're still in the middle of is short-sighted at best. History will speak well of this effort when it's all said and done. In the middle of WW2 it could have been said that FDR was incompetent two because we endured one military debacle after another far worse than anything that's gone on in Iraq.

We don't need fair weather soldiers like you name calling the president based on an incomplete evaluation of an incomplete war. We need determination to move on and to make the best of this bad situation. You calling Bush incompetent is really, really low frankly in light of all he's done for this nation.


31 posted on 11/07/2006 11:30:23 PM PST by MikeA
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To: dangus

Just wait till that P woman starts to open her mouth on the floor....She will make the Dems look like a pile of...I will be laughing all the way to the polls in 08.


32 posted on 11/07/2006 11:30:49 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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To: dangus

I kinda like the new data-- because it so amply demonstrates that you are wrong.

We keep winning in Iraq-- 94 % of Iraqis hate Al Qaeda

Unemployment keeps going down

Gas prices keep going down

The deficit keeps going down

thats pretty good data


33 posted on 11/07/2006 11:31:07 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: dangus
Thats fine, you are going to love the new and improved Congress!

They are going to really curb spending, cut the deficit and hold down your taxes.

Sorry, just kidding!

34 posted on 11/07/2006 11:31:10 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: Darkwolf377
I can say this now: You are an idiot.

You're as inflexible a thinker as Bush.

I guess I can blame you now, too, for the loss.

35 posted on 11/07/2006 11:31:19 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: MinorityRepublican

Whats wrong with these Trolls?


36 posted on 11/07/2006 11:31:48 PM PST by StoneWall Brigade (Newt/Rudy or Rudy/Newt 08!)
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To: dangus

Bush Derangement Syndrome, it is just for liberals anymore.


37 posted on 11/07/2006 11:32:07 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of "Bush Derangement Syndrome.")
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To: dangus

Do you wash that stink off of yourself every few days, or every few weeks?


38 posted on 11/07/2006 11:32:09 PM PST by Gator113
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To: dangus
In the past six years, we've seen the deficit explode like never before in the history of the country.

Wondering who kept the airlines afloat after 9/11. Wondering who paid for all of the natural disasters in the last six years. Wondering who paid for a completely new federal agency and hired a crap load of TSA employees. I don't know but Bush dumping all of our money into Social programs instead of cleaning up the aforementioned items has me irked too.

39 posted on 11/07/2006 11:33:04 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: RedCell
Carnage in the two World Wars was devastating. In The Face of Battle, historian John Keegan recounts how the British took 419,654 casualties at the Somme in 1916. There were 60,000 casualties the first day, “of whom 21,000 had been killed, most in the first hour of the attack, perhaps the first minutes.”

3,000 in 3 years is nothing.

40 posted on 11/07/2006 11:33:17 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: dangus
He has not been the most incompetent but he has been pretty bad. But it's not about Bush anymore, it's time to look for our new leader in 08' and learn from our mistakes. It's not any one persons fault though the President dose take a great deal of blame for our losses, all elected republicans and the party needs to take responsibility for the election and learn from our mistakes and make 08 a Republican Sweep.
41 posted on 11/07/2006 11:33:33 PM PST by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I'm not going to say that...........

Saddam is history, the economy is good, and so far the Dems have only said "it's time for a change".

Ok Dems.........you got the ball.

Were all watching........


42 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:03 PM PST by EnglishOnly
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To: dangus
Bush is not the worst by far. There is a certain failure of will by the American peope here. Plenty of blame to go around, but we are not the big red country we conservatives run around proclaiming. Our biggest states are locked up liberal. Our minorities are solid dem. We have weak middle of the roaders and the GOP majority always included RINOS. Lots of legal and illegal immigrants pouring in looking for liberal handouts.

I think leftism and liberalism are dangerous and idiotic. But republicans, IMHO have never wanted to lead enough to tell the people that squarely.

And the democrats are nefarious schemers without principle. A few thousand more GOP votes here and there and you'd all be saying Bush is brilliant.

43 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:10 PM PST by Williams
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To: zbigreddogz

The problem is a US news media that could portray nothing right about the economy or Iraq that worked over time to help elect Democrats. This was a massive unreported in-kind contribution to the Democratic party that helped them to secure this win. That media study released last week shows 77% of stories about Republicans or Republican-related issues in this campaign were reported on negatively by the Clown Car Media while 88% for Dems. were positive.

Meanwhile, Dem. scandals with Mollohan, Jefferson and even Harry Reid were mostly ignoraed. Mollohan and Jefferson cruised to re-election tonight. That should tell you something about why this election went the way it did and it's not Foley or Ney.


44 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:27 PM PST by MikeA
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To: dfwgator
Ok, so where is your great solution?

Vote in the primaries.

There is no excuse for picking a college cheerleader from Connecticut as the Republican choice for president.

Bush should have been out of the running early on.

45 posted on 11/07/2006 11:34:40 PM PST by mc6809e
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To: RedCell

i think he is probably stating a fact, that the US, when it has DECIDED to accomplish something, has accepted casualties approaching 100x our current rate, if not much more. any observer would agree that to occupy a generally unfriendly country with so few casualties is quite unusual.

I think you are misunderstanding the post. are YOU trivializing the casualties we took in WWII, somehow saying 100 men then is worth 1 man now? If not, you might consider clarifying your position on this.

If anything, the fact we have nominally occupied a generally hostile country for over 3 years at this casualty level is quite amazing (to those who have survived).


46 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:03 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: spikeytx86

So the state of the economy and the fact we've been protected for 5+ years from further attacks was just all a great big accident and had nothing to do with Bush's policies? Unreal.


47 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:10 PM PST by MikeA
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To: Ol' Sparky
That Bush is the most incompetent Republican ever? No, his father was.

Have we forgotten history? How about Herbert Hoover?

48 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:14 PM PST by frankensnake (1BH `1)
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To: Echo Talon

Some people still don't believe that we are in a war.


49 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:41 PM PST by Getsmart64
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To: Echo Talon

3,000 dead is NOT nothing


50 posted on 11/07/2006 11:36:57 PM PST by slaymakerpowertape
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