Posted on 11/08/2006 2:53:58 PM PST by landeraepi
Full disclosure, I'm a democrat, so get over it. I'm not here to insult you, and I'm certainly not here to gloat. I'm not here to trade barbs, undermine Free Republic, or infiltrate your ranks. I'll be honest — I disagree with most FReepers on almost every issue.
So, why am I posting a new thread?
Because I — we — need you. We at Democratic Underground and Daily Kos, and all of the lefty blogs you love to hate, and who love to hate you. We need you to acknowledge that if there's one thing we're learning about our country's political system, it's that there's way too much corruption. Too much greed. Cronyism. Lying. It's on both sides, folks — I'm no apologist.
Yes, the Democrats won. Yes, we're very happy about that. It means we get to put the emergency brake on what we see as runaway irresponsibility in our government. Some of you FReepers see it, too — the Bush administration is spending like Paris Hilton on a bender and Harry Reid is spending his afternoons thinking about how to double his real estate money instead of how to lead his minority majority. Result? America's losing its ethical center.
Indulge me for a moment: we at Daily Kos and Democratic Underground are ecstatic for one particular reason that it may be difficult for FReepers to understand. Candidates like Jon Tester, Jerry McNerney, Paul Hodes, and Jim Webb were all relative political unknowns — guys with great ideas who just had no "street cred" at all. The lefty blogs — dKos and DU, chiefly, coordinated the fundraising and did the canvassing, calling, and late-night video posting on YouTube.
We wanted this one like rabid dogs, and we got it. You guys will win again, and win big, but this time it was the democrats. If Jon Tester and Jerry McNerney begin taking money from lobbyists and accepting flights on Learjets, do you know what we'd do?
We'd castrate them. We'd end them. Ask a DUer — if these guys let Washington's corruption get under their skin, we'll vote against them.
But the truth is that they won't. I know this because that's why we picked them. They're committed to bringing some civility and dignity back to our country's political system — and so am I.
And, hopefully, so are you.
So, today, I'm reaching across the aisle, in earnest, and in what I hope you will realize is good faith. America isn't America without all of us, and I'm not about to let this election force us to self-segregate and turn into the epitome of what we hate. This country wasn't founded on ideological differences. America was founded as a place for people with unpopular beliefs. That's why the Puritans came here — and why everyone else followed.
Disagreement is no justification for acrimony.
If Free Republic joined with Daily Kos and DU to denounce corruption, cronyism, and dishonesty in government — regardless of our political stripes — we'll all be better for it.
I'm cross-posting a similar thread to dKos and DU in the hopes that the netroots on both sides can come together to reorient our government's ethical compass. Let's agree to disagree, but let's do it in an American way — in a way that helps all of us. We can (and should!) continue to fight for our personal morals, beliefs, and ideas — but we must ensure that our government, no matter which party controls it, is still a government of, by, and for the people.
So, come on, FReepers. Let's fix this country. Concentrate on common ground instead of ideological divisions. What do we all believe, and how can we leverage the immense power and respect of the blogosphere to do the most good?
I wish you all the best, and I'm sorry if I've ruined your day.
Stop. Stop...can not catch breath from laughing....
Go away!
You haven't ruined my day.
Complaining is easy, leadership is hard. Good luck.
You are a persistent cuss, I'll give ya that! (and the same answer from the other thread!)
William Jefferson. Alcee Hastings.
Borders?????
Not the Mexican one..the one between liberals and conservatives....let's finally build that wall....now there's something we can agree on......
After all of the crap you and your ilk have dealt for the last twelve years? You're ridiculous, and our fun is just beginning.
go away! I don't need you steenkin hand. Your victory is one of the most marginal in U.S. History.. look at the numbers. We will retake it from you next election cycle.
Looks to me like the result of ... wait for it ... GLOBAL WARMING!
Bwahahahahahahaha......no wait......Bwhahahahahahah......hahahahahahahaha.
Oh I forgot.....I'd spit on it.
I agree about corruption. I'll give you that.
We hate tolerence and mixed-breeding, don't ya know? /s <(in case you're from Rio Linda, that was sarcasm)
You voted to stab American warriors in the back in 1974, and turned the sacrifice of 52,000+ patriots into a defeat, and now you've done it again.
You are a traitor. I can only pray that you get dusted with fallout and suffer a long, lingering death when "Jericho" morphs from "television drama" to "reality show."
I will do unlike most here and try to take you seriously for a moment. OK, so we agree on corruption. Any ideas how to deal with it?
Term limits. That's how to ease that issue.
Now we know what to think, how to feel, what to do.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
You are a lib and you don't like corrupt politicians???????? (Excuse me while I laugh at you.) How can you belong to the democrat party if you don't like corrupt pols? Your party is the home of corrupt pols and always has been. Our side has them too but we can't hold a candle to your side. ROTFLMAO!!!!!
Every time a Democrate starts preaching about corruption and lobbyists I want to puke.
You pegged my BS detector.
>>>Yes, the Democrats won. Yes, we're very happy about that.
Won fraudently.
HAVA, Election Reform, was suppose to be in place BEFORE 11/7/06.
Go back to DU!
PS - Up yours.
Ivan
Well, you have guts...I'll give you that. The trouble with you liberals is that you cannot seem to see moral absolutes when it comes to things that conservatives hold deeply: Late term abortions, death sentences for killers, availability to own firearms, private property freedoms, and the obligation to leave alone those who will not work, or choose to destroy their lives with stimulants.
If we all denounced corruption, cronyism, JUDICIAL ACTIVISM, and dishonesty in government — regardless of our political stripes — we'll all be better for it.
We don't agree on anything, remember? That's all you morons have been saying for 6 years.No, no.....you're all on your own. Good luck, heh.
'"We shall have no truce or parley with you, or the grisly gang who work your wicked will. You do your worst, and we will do our best....We do not expect to hit without being hit back, and we intend with every week that passes to hit harder. Prepare yourselves then, my friends and comrades, for this renewal of your exertions. We shall never turn from our purpose, however sombre the road, however grievous the cost, because we know that out of this time of trial and tribulation will be born a new freedom and glory for all mankind." - Winston Churchill, 1941'
Thanks Ivan.
We prefer freedom - as in voting - to clean up our reprobates. Not some clumsy mechanism from the Bureau of Central Planning.
Couldn't have said it better Xena. The democrats set the precedent on many of the dirty things we see in DC.
Spit.
What, slobbering on the other thread wasn't getting you enough attention?
Democrats have no ethics. They deny freedom and personal responsibility. They also use other people's money to fund their benevolent jobs programs and nanny state scams. You also used the art of the con to gain your recent takeover of the Congress regarding the Iraq war. It was not about oil, it was about denying the terrorists a friendly safehaven and industrial bases. Notice all your Ds drove drive everywhere, including to the polls to vote for what they can extract out of other folk's pockets.
Notice the money for ME oil goes to those countries not "big oil". In Iraq and the other countries, the oil belongs to the people, they're selling it and the money goes in their pockets. It;s their countries treasury and companies. The folks that produce oil are earning a living. Notice their is no "big interests", there are only the interests of a Free people, that consists of individuals and their enterprises.
Don't come here looking for allies to justify your BS. It won't fly. You hate Freedom so much you can't stand it. Your petty ideas go nowhere, unless you can force it through govm't action after conning folks into electing your d-clowns as official pilferers.
BTW, MOLON LABE you ethical bastard!
I remember Impeachment and how this scum spewed lies day after day in honour of the Sink Emperor. They should not be trusted.
Regards, Ivan
Democrats go into this with Republicans handing them 4.4% unemployment, $2.08 gas, a kicking economy and a sky high stock market.
They were handed a war effort where the military had won every single battle.
NOW, let's see what they do on their watch the next year or so.
FR doesn't buy the Communist Socialist agenda.
The Dims spent years as obstructionists, and accused the Pubbies of stealing, lying, etc.
What about Kennedy, Kerry, etc.?
Payback's a bitch.
No. Absolutely not will I cooperate with the Party that hid Clinton's authorization, sale and wholesale stealing of our nuclear jewels, the miniaturization technology. Treason.
I'll spit in your hand, and on your face, and then won't be nice enough to use lube.
How's that?
I fart in your general direction.
Like you did with Harry Reid?
Oops, wait a minute, you made him your party's leader in the Senate.
We here at FR,unlike kos and du refrain from using vulgarities,but in this case I'm going to go against my better instincts,do ya know what a big old honkin' loogie is?;)
How about this...I'll take your hand when your side apologizes for disrespecting our military, country, Christians, the President, and pre-born babies. I'll take your hand when your side apologizes for taxing the wealth producers in this country into oblivion, you know these guys the ones that create jobs. When your side apologies for wanting to seize my money after I die when I worked hard to leave it to my children...should I go on. Do not treat me like scum for decades and then ask for my hand in cooperation..
Let me add this. Do not spit on the people who defend this nation, or Boy Scouts and others who carry the American flag.
Now if you can convince the leaders of what used to be my party, the Democrats, to support this nation, especially in a time of war, and this is truly a war that can leak onto our shores (9-11 proved that), convince them that raising taxes on the wealthy does not bring in more money for the politicians to spend, as the last decent Democrat President, John F. Kennedy knew, then we might have grounds to discuss points here.
Shove your wishes up your little Commie Ass!
LOL!
Many of those "incorruptible conservative" democrats, aka new blood, were funded by Nancy Pelosi and the moon-barking left as a front to gain the votes of a largely conservative/moderate American public.
Those new democrat legislators were bought and paid for by Pelosi, Dean and Co- they are are owned - and will be obedient to the flaming liberal democrat leadership (speaking of Red Nancy's $55 million personal fortune and how she got it and grows it) - or they will be "de funded" and many will be shown the door after one short term.
Your vote will have little to do with it. So enjoy people like Ted Kennedy, Nancy, Harry, Alcee Hastings, Henry Waxman, John Conyers, Murtha, Kerry, Obama, and Charlie Rangel being fawned over by the MSM as experts on "fixing America". We await their governance.
What made my day difficult was to look into the eyes of one of my colleagues who has a son who is an intelligence officer in Iraq.
She came up to me crying telling me, "They are going to do to my son what they did to my husband in Vietnam."
Another generation betrayed.
Defend them to your last dying breath, as you did the Clintons...?
Just a guess, mind.
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