Skip to comments.Cessna rattled by Boeing plane's wake
Posted on 11/28/2006 12:58:03 PM PST by skeptoid
It's big, it's ugly and it nearly took out a small plane that got too close.
The Boeing Co.'s Large Cargo Freighter, a modified 747 that will be used to ferry sections of Boeing's 787 Dreamliner, left a wake vortex so powerful that it apparently sent the small plane plunging toward the earth as it prepared to land at Boeing Field.
The single-engine Cessna was being flown by a student pilot, but an instructor took over and regained control, avoiding a crash. By then, however, the Cessna was below the level of the booms of the cranes that are used to load and unload container ships at Harbor Island at the mouth of the Duwamish River.
"It was a pretty impressive job of flying," said a pilot who is familiar with the Nov. 16 episode.
(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...
So .... everybody knew where everybody else was ..... this was a very valuable 'learning experience'. with a totally happy ending.
Yep, except for whoever had to wash the poor student's underwear when he got home that is...
It probably got thrown in the garbage after that.
Mine would have!
Sometimes Visual Flight Rating is just not high enough standard in certain air space corridors.
People once thought prop wash was a disturbing phenomenon.
Cheap shot against VFR pilots....
There was a fully qualified CFI next to him that allowed a dangerous condition to foster after a warning from the tower and basic flying 101 rules of maintaining distance from large aircraft due to wake turbulence.
Anyway you look at it the c.f.i. was responsible. Warning was given and the c.f.i. was in the trainer. He will be getting a visit from a f.a.a. rep soon enough and will have to go through review.
Wouldn't be suprised if his licence were suspended. To cover his rear he's most probably filed a dangerous incident report already.
Wake turbulence.Why was he so close?Used to be a spacing of 5 miles behind an aircraft this size with a small plane involved.
He can file the report which in most cases protect GA pilots but I'm not sure in an instructors capacity whether that immunity would apply.
You're correct, He most likely will be suspended pending remedial training....
It's Visual Flight Rules (not Visual Flight Rating).
Even if both aircraft were on IFR flight plans there's nothing to prevent the same thing from happening. If the trailing pilot (the Cessna) in this case accepts a visual approach even while on an IFR flight plan then the pilot is responsible for separation including wake avoidance.
The CFI should have corrected the student's spacing in order to provide appropriate separation.
Chris - PP-ASEL (Instrument Student)
The instructor was a she.
Seriesly, .... maybe. Or it could have been that little rudder hardover thing.
Boeing told investigators that the Large Cargo Freighter, which will have a maximum takeoff weight of about 800,000 pounds, weighed about 633,700 pounds at the time it passed the Cessna on final approach to the airport. It is expected to be certified with a maximum gross landing weight of 575,000 pounds.
So why was the LCF 58,700 pounds overweight on approach? Part of the certification tests?
First of all the "he" is a she. I say she gets some sort of commendation, and maybe even wins a lawsuit. Her plane was on final and was passed by the larger Boeing plane.
So tell me Ace, what do you think the Cessna should have done? It sounds to me as if it was there first.
I couldn't say, but that's what I would guess, and the article didn't say that the LCF touched down....could have been touch and go or goaround.
I can see it now: "brown alert!"
"what's a brown alert?"
"the color of my trousers!"
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