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Police: Teen who hit SUV with eggs slain
AP ^ | 12/3/06

Posted on 12/03/2006 7:54:15 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A 14-year-old boy who was throwing eggs at cars along with two other teenagers was shot and killed by someone who had been in a sport-utility vehicle that was hit, police said.

Danny Crawford was killed by a gunshot wound to his upper body, Franklin County Coroner Brad Lewis said. He died in an alley on the city's west side early Saturday, authorities said.

The teens were throwing eggs at cars when an SUV that was struck chased them, Detective Tim Huston said. The vehicle stopped and several gunshots were fired, he said.

Police were looking for the shooter, who fled in the SUV, Sgt. Dana Norman said. The SUV believed to be involved was found a short time later near where Crawford died.

The other teens were not hurt, police said.


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Moral of the story (from the headline) -- don't make SUVs mad.
1 posted on 12/03/2006 7:54:17 AM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Another reason to ban SUVs.


2 posted on 12/03/2006 7:55:42 AM PST by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, thats how you sell clothing.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

SUVs carry guns now?


Where do I get this option?


3 posted on 12/03/2006 7:56:08 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (I support global warming.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
The teens were throwing eggs at cars when an SUV that was struck chased them

I suppose the SUV fired the gun too.

4 posted on 12/03/2006 7:56:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Hoodlum91

Never bring eggs to a SUV gunfight.


5 posted on 12/03/2006 7:56:54 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Some body was a good shot.


6 posted on 12/03/2006 7:57:06 AM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Exactly the same thing that happened here in Indiana this year. I was amazed at the number of people who said the shooter had every right to kill the kid.


7 posted on 12/03/2006 7:58:04 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
The SUV believed to be involved was found a short time later near where Crawford died.

I guess "SUV's" don't have actual drivers anymore. Must have been one of those new stealth models.

8 posted on 12/03/2006 7:58:51 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
Anyone who throws objects at moving cars has no respect for others, no sense of the potential consequences of their actions, and no sense of personal responsibility.

Anyone who fires a gun in anger, while aiming at others has no respect for others, no sense of the potential consequences of their actions, and no sense of personal responsibility.

This is a cultural problem which can only be solved by the community which is afflicted.

9 posted on 12/03/2006 8:00:43 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: Moonman62
I suppose the SUV fired the gun too.

No, the trigger was pulled by a Pit Bull.

10 posted on 12/03/2006 8:01:09 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Sunni or later Shi'ite happens." --spokeshave)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Never bring eggs to a SUV gunfight.

LOL

11 posted on 12/03/2006 8:02:00 AM PST by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball



I would never egg on a SUV


12 posted on 12/03/2006 8:02:12 AM PST by grjr21
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree with the general sentiments in your statements. However, it appears you are equating the kid throwing eggs to a murder.

I don't think these crimes are equivalent in any way.


13 posted on 12/03/2006 8:03:25 AM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

I'm not really trying to equate them. But I am pointing out that actions like these arise from people with damaged souls. I think the egg thrower and the shooter had a lot in common. They weren't raised right. The shooter's mistake was more egregious, but did not differ in kind from the mistake made by the deceased.


14 posted on 12/03/2006 8:05:49 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
The SUV believed to be involved was found a short time later near where Crawford died.

Abandoned to be reported stolen as an alibi for the owner or actually stolen and the kids picked the wrong vehicle to mess with? I wonder. The time of the incident wasn't stated but I wonder if mom knew where her son was? Note I left off dad ... statistically accurate (hey, if the RATs use that as a justification for overturning a recount, why can't I use it for commentary?)

15 posted on 12/03/2006 8:06:34 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Prayers for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub. Brian, we're all pulling for you!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Maybe an egg fell on one of Putin's spy SUVs, or the SUV of a mafiosa, or the SUV of Billy Jeff, or the the Bin Laden family Escalade ...I'm just trying to help police understand who would seek such revenge on a teen in this world.


16 posted on 12/03/2006 8:06:59 AM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: indcons

In California to throw any object at a moving vehicle is a felony. Where would the bleeding hearts be if the SUV driver had swerved his vehicle because he was surprised and ran over and killed another innocent child. That young adult's actions had consequences. Maybe he'd still be around today if his parents would have raised him to respect the law and other people's property. No sorrow here.


17 posted on 12/03/2006 8:07:39 AM PST by Plains Drifter (America First, Last, and Always!!!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
The boy said Danny did not throw the egg. He said when the SUV stopped, he and Danny fled down an alley between N. Terrace Avenue and Eldon Avenue. The driver, he said, followed while the third boy ran in another direction.

The boy said the driver stopped the SUV, got out and began to run after them. The boy said while he ran through one back yard, Danny found himself trapped in the alley.

He said when he got to his house near Terrace Avenue, he heard six shots.

Danny’s house is about a mile from the alley where he was shot. A woman who answered the door at the house yesterday said Danny’s father did not want to comment.

Sgt. Dana Norman said the driver fled in the SUV. Police located the vehicle a short time later nearby on Burgess Avenue.

Looks like the guy who was hit with the egg really wanted his revenge.

18 posted on 12/03/2006 8:08:32 AM PST by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Plains Drifter

I wouldn't shot.I'd just stop,open the door and let my Shepherds out of the car.They are trained to return to me in 2 minutes or less.


19 posted on 12/03/2006 8:09:18 AM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: Abathar

There's one of those right here, now.

The a**hole who wrote post #17.


20 posted on 12/03/2006 8:10:31 AM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

SUV manufacturers know that these vehicles are coming into the hands of criminals.

There is no right to own these assault vehicles!

Where are the common sense SUV laws?


21 posted on 12/03/2006 8:10:46 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: Hoodlum91

http://www.ibistek.com/security_vehicles.php


22 posted on 12/03/2006 8:10:53 AM PST by alfa6 (Taxes are seldom levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: sully777

Now Danny won't get to see the Buckeyes play for the National Championship.


23 posted on 12/03/2006 8:11:08 AM PST by ErnBatavia (recent nightmare: Googled up "Helen Thomas nude"....)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

An "asymmetrical conflict."


24 posted on 12/03/2006 8:12:09 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: Plains Drifter
In California to throw any object at a moving vehicle is a felony.

Does that include idiots flipping lighted cigarettes out of their windows that hit other vehicles? Some truckers seem to love to do that.

25 posted on 12/03/2006 8:12:58 AM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

A similar event occured last year as well. Watch, a certain cadre of FReepers will revel in the shooting and call it justified.


26 posted on 12/03/2006 8:13:01 AM PST by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Need to control these high capacity egg cartons. No one needs to eat eighteen eggs at time.


27 posted on 12/03/2006 8:13:29 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

I'm speculating here, but I'm getting the sneaky feeling that the owner of the SUV was a homeboy, and egging his ride constituted a "diss," which is a capital crime in the urban jungle.


28 posted on 12/03/2006 8:13:34 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Pure bull sh&* Doctor Phil.


29 posted on 12/03/2006 8:17:30 AM PST by em2vn
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Based on the majority of responses here, it would seem that the right of juvenile delinquents to throw objects into moving traffic without consequences has become a conservative value.

I disagree. You unnecessarily initiate a physical confrontation, you don't get any sympathy from me if it escalates into more than you bargained for.


30 posted on 12/03/2006 8:17:47 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Never throw eggs at Gold Edition Escalades.


31 posted on 12/03/2006 8:18:21 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Plains Drifter

How do you justify the murder? Because the kid did something stupid? 95% of adults will say they did stupid things as teenagers, and the other 5% are liars. What reward would you give the murderer? A Congressional Gold Medal? A Senate seat? A Nobel prize?

In addition, this is very irresponsible firearms use. Guns are for self-defense, not for getting petty revenge against kids who piss you off.

I can't believe that you are capable of having any compassion for your hypothetical "another innocent child" when you feel no sorrow about this happening. You are nothing more than a cold-blooded sadist who has no respect for human life.


32 posted on 12/03/2006 8:19:07 AM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: Plains Drifter

I definitely agree that there should be consequences. Not sure if murder should be one of them especially when there was no loss of life or limb in this case.

If this kid had thrown this object and the action had resulted in the death of a person, I would have joined you in calling for his head.

Not in this case though.


33 posted on 12/03/2006 8:20:34 AM PST by indcons
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Shooting wasn't justified. Maybe some kind of good can come from this incident in that children can be taught from it that actions have consequences & they aren't always what you hope they will be.

If parents would use this story to illustrate that when you trespass on, or vandalize someone else's property - you might just be stirring up a hornet's nest. Obviously, when these vandals threw the eggs, they were hoping to get a reaction from the driver - they got a lot more than they bargained for.

Moral of the story: Be careful what you wish for.


34 posted on 12/03/2006 8:24:20 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: JillValentine

Amen.


35 posted on 12/03/2006 8:24:22 AM PST by em2vn
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To: JillValentine

Bump


36 posted on 12/03/2006 8:24:24 AM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Throwing objects into moving traffic is needlessly rolling the dice on killing an innocent party, no different than driving drunk or firing a rifle into the air in a developed area.

Waiting until you have a victim before doing something about the offender is choosing to ruin two lives later instead of one now. Bad exchange.


37 posted on 12/03/2006 8:28:16 AM PST by CGTRWK
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To: ErnBatavia

I just explained to my kids that people throw things to be funny. My brother was caught and punished for throwing snowballs at cars on a major highway--keyword is punished--by Dad. I told my kids that my brother was lucky no one was hurt, including him.

You don't who you are dealing with in life, be it at a store, an overpass, an alley, or even in cyberspace. Best to stay away from trouble.

Then I told them that this kid didn't think his actions would lead to his death.

It's a powerful lesson. A lesson I know is not taught anymore by virtue of this horrible story.


38 posted on 12/03/2006 8:28:34 AM PST by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: CGTRWK

I thought protecting the life of a child was a conservative value.

If a kid eggs your car, confronting him and hauling him off to his parents, or maybe calling the police, might be more constructive ways to deal with the situation than murder. But hey, who am I to talk? I'm just expressing the opinion of someone who respects human life.

Hopefully, protecting the life of unborn children is still a conservative value, because children's lives after they're born don't seem to mean much to some of these so-called "conservatives."


39 posted on 12/03/2006 8:28:38 AM PST by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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To: All

The problem here is that we expect the auto driver to magically know it is just an egg or not some sort of bump/rob scam.

You take your plaintiff as you find him.

There have been many cases where road debris kills people.

Of course we have to wonder why the SUV was abandoned since it is so easy to track the owners down.


40 posted on 12/03/2006 8:30:28 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I agree with you on this. And just what would it have been if the three were just caught? Not a damn thing. That is the problem. Eggs will ruin a paint job not to mention that if they hit a moving car the problems could have been injury or even death.
41 posted on 12/03/2006 8:30:45 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

Kids do stupid things, but apparently some-one more stupid than kids do stupid things.

There never has been and, there will never be an SUV worth the life of a child.

How can some-one be so stupid? Before you answer, if you have a child this age, look at them real good, this could have been your child.


42 posted on 12/03/2006 8:31:32 AM PST by buck61
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

The part about the SUV is totally irrelevant. The reporter who wrote that is an ass.
As for the slain part, doesn't seem legal to me, but when you are in a car and someone throws things at it you don't know if they are throwing eggs or rocks. So if you think that they are attacking you you have the right to repel them with deadly force. But taking revenge is not legal.


43 posted on 12/03/2006 8:31:36 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: JillValentine; Plains Drifter
The a**hole who wrote post #17.

"A's" don't ping people they are talking about. That is an FR unwritten rule.

Also, while traveling down our local highway, I had an egg thrown from an overpass at my truck. It hit mostly square down the center of the windshield and cracked my windshield. It is a wonder it didn't go through the windshield and kill me (no passengers were with me).

Egg throwing can kill... and if I could of got to them, I am not sure what I would of done with those kids (I assume they were kids).

44 posted on 12/03/2006 8:32:02 AM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" - Benjamin Rush)
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To: indcons; Abathar; JillValentine; em2vn

Apparently you guys haven't ever been hit by an egg while operating a motorcycle, with your girlfriend/boyfriend hanging on behind you.

This happened to me a while back and when something hits you and explodes while you're driving 45 mph, you and whoever is with you (if anyone) are likely to be shaken.

I am fortunate to not have lost control and caused an accident.

When it happens to you, it feels like attempted murder, trust me.


45 posted on 12/03/2006 8:32:18 AM PST by jdm
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To: JillValentine
If you don't want to suffer the possible consequences, don't do the crime. It isn't hard calculus.

Bleeding heart stupidity lies at the center of many of todays societal ills.

Did this kid deserve to be shot and killed? No. Did this SUV owners deserve to have his vehicle damaged? No. Who initiated the conflict? The kid. Ergo, the kid is 100% at fault for what happened to his stupid self...

Darwin wins again...

46 posted on 12/03/2006 8:36:36 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: jdm

A motorcycle wasn't involved in this. If one had been the case may have been different.


47 posted on 12/03/2006 8:40:18 AM PST by em2vn
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To: JillValentine

I have a hard time believing you respect human life if you're defending someone who would take yours (perhaps not intentionally) in a heartbeat.


48 posted on 12/03/2006 8:40:55 AM PST by jdm
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To: em2vn
A motorcycle wasn't involved in this. If one had been the case may have been different.

So now in order for their to be a problem with egg-throwing, the vehicle has to be a motorcycle? LOL.

49 posted on 12/03/2006 8:42:46 AM PST by jdm
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To: Abathar
"I was amazed at the number of people who said the shooter had every right to kill the kid."

To kill him? No.

To take woeful revenge against him in some form? Absolutely. That should not be a crime.

50 posted on 12/03/2006 8:43:38 AM PST by SteveMcKing
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