Skip to comments.First, the Jews; Now Gibson Angers the Maya
Posted on 12/07/2006 7:11:02 PM PST by paudio
Some descendants of the Maya tribes depicted in Mel Gibson's Apocalypto have denounced the movie as racist and not representative of their ancient culture. In an interview with Reuters, Ignacio Ochoa, director of the Nahual Foundation, said, "Gibson replays, in glorious big budget Technicolor, an offensive and racist notion that Maya people were brutal to one another long before the arrival of Europeans and thus they deserved, in fact, needed, rescue." Lucio Yaxon, described by Reuters as a 23-year-old Mayan human rights activist, added, "Basically, the director is saying the Mayans are savages." Today's (Thursday) Los Angeles Times noted that archaeologist Richard Hansen was on hand throughout the shooting of the film, lending his advice to the production team. Production designer Tom Sanders told the newspaper, "It was really fun to say [to Hansen], 'Is there any proof they didn't do this?' When he said, 'There is no proof they didn't do that, ' that gives you some license to play."
Some descendants of the Maya tribes wanted some attention and maybe even a buck or two.
I don't see Mel sweating the "Maya"!
I think they're taking those Geico commercials too seriously.
I wonder if "cultural activist" is listed in the U.S. Department of Commerce Employment Outlook Handbook of 2006 and what the going wages are.
I can't stand the Cave man in those commercials. Arrogant.
Mel ought to pimp slap this kid.....or pay him off!
I like your first suggestion-slap him. Please don't pay him off!!
Why am I thinking of the Geico "caveman" commercial ?
Reads like a script for a Geico's "cavemen" ad.
The "activist" is probably thrilled to get the publicity and can be counted on to milk it for everything he can get.
Darn, you beat me by seconds...
No, he's saying Mayans WERE savages.
I remember reading years ago about 1 mayan king that sacrificed 8000 innocents in 1 year to dedicate a single temple. They were precursors to TROP!!
"Basically, the director is saying the Mayans are savages."
Oh Mel, Mel, Mel. Next you'll be making a movie about Muslims that portrays them as savages, too. Rude.
(Or is it Incan?)
Many Europeans of the so-called pre-Columbian era were savages too. Human life in those times other than your own had little value to almost any culture.
For pete's sake they stuck thorns through their foreskins and drippled the blood for religious purposes.
In the end, a massive Bermuda High that lasted 300 years AND internecine warfare destroyed their civilization long before the arrival of any Europeans (other than the guys who came in 800 AD and passed along knowledge of the bow and arrow).
Mel: "Honestly, we didn't know you guys were still around."
No, he's saying Mayans WERE savages.
Exactly! Every culture on this Earth has had dark periods.
After all, if blood didn't flow, how could the sun rise...?
The savage Chavez is a descendant of South American headhunters, not the Maya.
I've had Mayan tourist guides at both Tulum and Chitzen Itza describe the culture apologetically, and I don't need an apology.
The culture was brutal, and it can't be denied. At least by anyone who shouldn't be called a fool.
Happens. The other day, when tiny tom "announced" he wasn't running for Pres. My first thought was "ok, me neither then".
When I went to post it, many had beat me to it.
Great minds you know.
That was funny, thanks for the chuckle.
"the Mayans are savages."
Tell me about the Bermuda high, if you don't mind? Thanks.
...If a tree falls in a forest you might not hear it, but it still falls.
LOL... "it's so easy even a movie director can do it"...
What, pray tell, are you talking about?
Dr. Richard D. Hansen is a specialist on the early Maya and is the Director of the Mirador Basin Project in northern Guatemala. He was an Assistant Research Scientist (Level IV) with the Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics at UCLA until Dec. 2003. He is the founder and president of the Foundation for Anthropological Research and Environmental Studies (FARES), a non-profit scientific research institution, now based in Washington, D.C. He graduated with a Ph.D. in Archaeology from UCLA in January 1992. He previously held a double major B.S. degree in Spanish and Archaeology from Brigham Young University in 1978, and a M.S. degree in Anthropology in 1984. While a Ph.D. student at UCLA, he was selected by the U.S. Department of Education as a National Graduate Fellow and a Jacob Javits Fellow from all college and university students throughout the nation in the arts, humanities, and social sciences for five years. He was named the UCLA Distinguished Scholar in 1988, a Fulbright Scholar in 1990, the UCLA Outstanding Graduate Student in 1991, and the UCLA Chancellor's Marshall in 1992. He has published 69 papers and book chapters in scientific and popular publications and has presented more than 145 professional papers in scientific symposia throughout the world. He has conducted and/or directed archaeological research in Israel, the U.S. Great Basin, the U.S. Southwest, and Central America.
Well, clearly there is only one way to disprove this; strap Mel to a stone table and cut his heart out. Works for muslims...
It's impossible to not offend anyone anymore.
Love that cave man character, for some reason, he resonates with me. Especially that idiotic airline terminal conveyor belt scene.
I think they're a parody of homos.
Mayan #1; "I'll have the human heart with mango salsa."
Mayan #2; "Nothing for me thank you, I seem to have lost my appetite."
LOL! That's hilarious!
Ok, duck with mango salsa all around. It appears that was a very effective commercial, although, I didn't buy their insurance.
they need to work those cavemen into the Miller lite "Man Law" commercials-
What would they say to my mixing bloody mary mix and beer? Just the thing when I have a headache and need a drink.
If I were Gibson, I'd write a Mayan apology on my butt cheeks and show it whenever the issue came up.
"The epidemic of cocoliztli from1545 to 1548 killed an estimated 5 million to 15 million people, or up to 80% of the native population of Mexico (Figure 1). In absolute and relative terms the 1545 epidemic was one of the worst demographic catastrophes in human history, approaching even the Black Death of bubonic plague, which killed approximately 25 million in western Europe from 1347 to 1351 or about 50% of the regional population."
"The cocoliztli epidemic from 1576 to 1578 cocoliztli epidemic killed an additional 2 to 2.5 million people, or about 50% of the remaining native population."
What does Maya Angelou have against the movie?
Sounds interesting and a "will see" for me..saw the trailer of the making of the film and that was interesting in itself.
Looks good. Bones through their noses, lots of tattoos, spear chucking, sacrifice, jaguars, jungle temples, cut throats. I'm there, Mel.